The seven best lines of dialogue in FFVII

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
At this month's staff meeting I floated an idea for a new type of front page article, lists of the seven best or seven worst whatever from either FFVII or the whole series. I didn't want to start this until the community playthrough had been organised, but that's been sorted, so the time is now :)

"The time is now" - that's one of the most memorable lines from Final Fantasy VII, isn't it? In fact, that game is full of unforgettable pieces of dialogue. Mr. Ite did well to put 100 of them together for this list, but the challenge I am presenting to you now, members of the Lifestream community, is to choose just seven of the very best lines of dialogue from the game. They will be the theme of the first article in this new series. The lines don't have to be from that list of 100, but I expect many of them will be anyway. You can find a full script of the game here (split into chapters) or here (split into discs).

I'll be adding up all of your choices and using them as the basis for the front page article. You can rank your nominations in order of preference if you wish, and I'll take that into consideration, but it's not compulsory. Please also say why you think your chosen lines stand out - I'd like to be able to add some quotes to the front page article. If you don't want to be quoted but still want to post your selection of lines here, let me know.

I'll be posting my own choices later. Who's going to get us started? You don't have to post all seven at once, and you're welcome to change your mind afterwards, so don't be shy :)

Update: please post your seven favourites even if some of them have already been posted. That's the only way I'll be able to know which ones are liked by more than one person!
 
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Splintered

unsavory tart
For some reason, the most immediate thing that came into my mind is the dialogue when climbing on the steps
Cloud
...Because we don't want to start a commotion until we've saved Aeris.
I doubt that's possible though...
Barret
...heh heh heh.
Cloud
Knock it off. You're giving me the creeps.
Barret
So even you will fight for someone else. I had you figured wrong I guess.
Cloud
Who cares what you figured!
Barret
I'm just sayin' mebbe I was wrong...
Tifa
heh heh heh......
Cloud
What's that supposed to mean, Tifa?
Barret
huff... Man, I'm beat...
Marlene, Daddy wanted to see your face one more time...
Tifa
Would you stop acting like a retard and climb!?
It's just a bit more!
...maybe.
Barret
...how much farther do these stairs go on?
Tifa
Why don't you ask them?

Barret
Damn, man! I've had it! I'm going back!
Tifa
And take just as long going down as you did coming up?
 

AvecAloes

Donator
Young Tifa: Hey, why don't we make a promise? Umm, if you get really famous and I'm ever in a bind... You came save me, all right?

I chose this one because I think it gives a lot of substance and background to the whole Tifa/Cloud dynamic throughout the game. She wants to believe that he is the same Cloud with whom that promise was made, that he is there and able to protect her, but something is off, something isn't right, and she knows it...

Elmyra: Aerith is an Ancient. The sole survivor

Background info. Important.

Cloud: Sephiroth is alive. I... I have to settle the score.

Cloud's disbelief (and ours, too, before we know what is going on) that Sephiroth survived their encounter, and his drive to make things right in the only way that he can see at the time.

Bugenhagen: That was a scream from this planet. Didn't you hear it? As if to say... I hurt, I suffer......

Again, this offers some background info, lets us know that the Planet can feel, and consequently sees a need to defend itself.

Cloud: Jenova, a calamity from the skies? You mean she wasn't an Ancient!?

An "aha!" moment.

Aerith: First off, it bothered me how you looked exactly like. Two completely different people, but look exactly the same. The way you walk, gesture... I think I must have seen him again, in you... But you're different. Things are different...

Another indication that not all is what it seems with Cloud. There is so much more going on than meets the eye.

Cloud: ...Lifestream.
The Planet is taking action, saving itself. I thought that was very powerful during my playthrough of the game. When all hope seemed lost, when it seemed that there was nothing more that we could do, the Planet took charge.

And yes, I did take these quotes straight from the list that Ite posted :desu:
 
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ForceStealer

Double Growth
To either be taken in conjunction with, or replacing your second to last one, I always liked (from memory):

Tifa said:
But something bothered me about the way you spoke. The things that you didn't know that you should, the things you shouldn't know that you did.

Not only is it telling about Cloud, it comes at a point in the game when you are thoroughly baffled as to who or what Cloud is.

I'll post more tonight.
 

AvecAloes

Donator
I don't know which of those two I like better...I think I'd say Tifa's, but then I might just be biased. But I guess that wouldn't matter, actually, making a list like this is biased, after all.
 

Alex Strife

Ex-SOLDIER
I don't know if I'll post seven, but...

Young Tifa said:
Hey, why don't we make a promise? Umm, if you get really famous and I'm ever in a bind... You came save me, all right?

I feel this one kind of sets the whole thing in motion.

Cloud said:
Aerith is gone. Aerith will no longer talk, no longer laugh, cry... or get angry...

I'm one of those odd people who, despite liking Tifa better, always loved Aerith, and her death was sad to me. This one sums it up quite nicely.

Cloud said:
All right, everyone, let's mosey. // Move out!!

I'm aware it's technically two sentences, but they happen in the same sequence, and this is Cloud at its finest, here!!
 

Soakette

Donator
AKA
Jess
These are my favorites. Of course its all Turk stuff. I just love them because they are funny.

"We may be retreating, but we're still victorious.

Reno to Cloud and his party in Gongaga

Reno
...Elena, you talk too much.

She does sometimes...

Reno
Drink, Rude! How long have we been a team...?
There have been hard times being a Turk, but all in all, I'm glad I did it.
I even got to meet a bunch of wing nuts like you.

I love how much Reno likes being a Turk and the bond him and Rude is awesome.

Reno
Lookin' at you is makin' me sober.

This is to the Shinra Soldiers. Its just a funny line I love.

Reno
Elena. Don't misunderstand.
A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool.

True.

Reno
All right, Corneo. This'll be over quick, so listen up.
Why do you think we went to all the trouble of teaming up with those guys to get you...?
1. Because we were ready to die
2. Because we were sure of victory
3. Because we were clueless
Corneo
Two... Number two?
Reno
All wrong.
He grinds his foot into Corneo's hand.
Corneo
No...! Wait, sto......!
He loses his grip and falls.
Aaaaaaaaaa......p
Reno
The correct answer was...
Rude
...because it's our job.
Elena
Oh, thank you very much...!
I never expected you'd to come help......
Reno
Elena, don't act so weak.
You're a Turks!

This is just an Epic Scene for the Turks imo

Rude
Are we on...?

This was after Reno got a call from HQ to capture Cloud & Co after helping them in Wutai

Reno
Oh!
And don't step on the flowers......
 
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Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
^ My favourite Turks line is probably Reno's "No, today we're off duty", right after the line you posted by Rude. As a first time player, you really don't know whether you're going to have to fight them or not. Of course, you don't. Cloud's party, who were primed for battle, go back to standing normally, the Turks theme ends, and there's a few seconds of silence as the two parties just stare at each other. That really is a defining moment for the Turks, moving them away of the bad guys' side and into somewhat ambiguous neutral territory, which makes them all the more interesting, if you ask me.

That probably won't make it into my top seven, though. There are too many other good lines to choose from that are more significant to the story.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
This ended up being more like a Top 7 Most Important Exchanges thing for me. Oh well.

Barret: "Yo! This your first time in a reactor?"
Cloud: "No. After all, I did work for Shinra, y'know."
Barret: "The planet's full of Mako energy. People here use it every day."

[Cloud shrugs]

Barret: "It's the life blood of this planet. But Shinra keeps suckin' the blood out with these weird machines."
Cloud: "I'm not here for a lecture. Let's just hurry."
Barret: "That's it! You're comin' with me from now on."

[A few seconds later]

Barret: "Little by little the reactors'll drain out all the life. And that'll be that."
Cloud: "It's not my problem."
Barret: "The planet's dyin', Cloud!"
Cloud: "The only thing I care about is finishin' this job before security and the Roboguards come."
—Barret and Cloud in the first mako reactor

Exposition that establishes everything we need to know about AVALANCHE, Shin-Ra, SOLDIER (Barret a few seconds earlier: "Ex-SOLDIER, huh? Don't trust ya!") and the overall plot at this point in the game. It also firmly establishes the kind of dickish behavior we can expect out of Cloud for a while, and the dynamic we can look forward to between he and Barret.



Rufus: "So... So Sephiroth was actually here. ...By the way. Who are you guys?"
Cloud: "I'm Cloud, former SOLDIER First Class!"
Barret: "I'm from AVALANCHE!"
Tifa: "Same here!"
Aeris: "...a flower girl from the slums."
Red XIII: "...a research specimen."
Rufus: "What a crew. Well, I'm Rufus. The President of Shinra, Inc."
Barret: "You only President, 'cause yer old man died!"
Rufus: "That's right. I'll let you hear my new appointment speech.
...Old man tried to control the world with money. It seems to have been working.
The population thought that Shinra would protect them.Work at Shinra, get your pay. If a terrorist attacks, the Shinra army will help you.
It looks perfect on the outside.
But, I do things differently.
I'll control the world with fear. It takes too much to do it like my old man.
A little fear will control the minds of the common people. There's no reason to waste money on them."
Tifa: "He likes to make speeches just like his father."

[Cloud turns to Barret]

Cloud: "Get outta this building with Aeris!"
Barret: "What?"
Cloud: "I'll explain later! Barret! This is the real crisis for the Planet!"
—Rufus's introduction following his father's murder

Not only does this present Rufus to us along with a somehow more threatening Shin-Ra, but it also lets us know lets us know — in the wake of losing Jessie, Biggs and Wedge — who our motley crew for this game is actually going to be.

As significantly, it shows us that the return of Sephiroth is an event that will make for a different game than the one we thought we were playing.



Aeris: "How do you intend to become one with the Planet?"
Sephiroth: "It's simple.
Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to heal the injury.
The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the injury."

[He stabs his sword into the floor]

Sephiroth: "...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very life of the Planet?
Think how much energy would be gathered!"

[He pulls his sword back out]

Sephiroth: "Ha ha ha. And at the center of that injury, will be me.
All that boundless energy will be mine.
By merging with all the energy of the Planet, I will become a new life form, a new existence.
Melding with the Planet... I will cease to exist as I am now...
Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every soul."
Aerith: "An injury powerful enough to destroy the Planet?
Injure... the Planet?"
Sephiroth: "Behold that mural. The Ultimate Destructive Magic... Meteor."
—Sephiroth emulates his favorite "James Bond" villain

In addition to showing off Seph being intimidating, this tells us what game we are actually playing, and what the rest of the plot will center around.



"...Shut up.
The cycle of nature and your stupid plan don't mean a thing.
Aeris is gone.
Aeris will no longer talk, no longer laugh, cry...... or get angry......
What about us...... what are WE supposed to do?
What about my pain?
My fingers are tingling.
My mouth is dry.
My eyes are burning!"
—Cloud, while holding Aerith's body immediately after Sephiroth murders her

If you didn't know how you should feel in the instant Sephiroth's sword pierced Aerith's spine — and I'm sure a great many players didn't know for a good moment — you should have known at this point. I think Cloud spoke for a great many of us.



"Everyone, listen to me.
I'm Cloud, ex-SOLDIER, born in Nibelheim.
I came to settle up with Sephiroth.

I came here by my own free will... Or so I thought.
However... ...To tell the truth, I'm afraid of myself.
...There is a part of me that I don't understand.
That part that made me give the Black Materia to Sephiroth.
If you hadn't stopped me, Aeris might have been...
...There's something inside of me. A person who is not really me.
That's why I should quit this journey.
Before I do something terrible.
But I am going.
He destroyed my hometown five years ago, killed Aeris, and is now trying to destroy the Planet. I'll never forgive... Sephiroth.
I... I must go on.
...I have a favor to ask of you.
Will you all come with me?
...to save me from doing something terrible."
—Cloud, shortly after Aerith's funeral.

If there was any remaining doubt that Cloud had changed since the beginning, there no longer should have been.



Bugenhagen: "The knowledge of the Ancients swirling around here is telling me one thing.
The planet's in a crisis...
A crisis beyond human power or endless time.
It says, when the time comes, we must search for 'Holy'."
Cloud: "Holy?"
Bugenhagen: "Holy... the ultimate White Magic. Magic that might stand against Meteor. Perhaps our last hope to save the planet from Meteor.
If a soul seeking Holy reaches the planet, it will appear.
Ho Ho Hooo.
Meteor, Weapon, everything will disappear.
Perhaps, even ourselves."
Cloud: "Even us!?"
Bugenhagen: " It is up to the planet to decide.
What is best for the planet. What is bad for the planet.
All that is bad will disappear. That is all.
Ho Ho Hooo.
I wonder which we humans are?"
—Bugenhagen tells us how to save the world

This scene not only introduces the measure to stop Sephiroth, but it introduces the game's greatest philosophical question — one which can be asked in real life: "Are humans bad for the planet, and would it be sad if we were gone?"



Cloud: "What are we all fighting for? I want us all to understand that.
Save the planet... for the future of the planet... Sure, that's all fine.
But really, is that really how it is? For me, this is a personal feud.
I want to beat Sephiroth. And settle my past.
Saving the planet just happens to be part of that.
I've been thinking.
I think we all are fighting for ourselves.
For ourselves... and that someone... something... whatever it is, that's important to us.
That's what we're fighting for.
That's why we keep up this battle for the planet."

Barret: "You're right...
It sounds cool sayin' it's to save the planet.
But I was the one who blew up that Mako reactor......
Lookin' back on it now, I can see that wasn't the right way to do things.
I made a lot of friends and innocent bystanders suffer...
...At first, it was revenge against Shinra. For attackin' my town.
But now...... Yeah. I'm fightin' for Marlene.
For Marlene... For Marlene's future...
Yeah... I guess I want to save the planet for Marlene's sake..."

Cloud: "Go and see her. Make sure you're right, and come back.
All of you. Get off the ship and find out your reasons for yourselves.
I want you to make sure. Then I want you to come back."

Cid: "Maybe ain't none of us'll come back.
Meteor's gonna kill us all anyway. Let's just forget any useless struggling!"

Cloud: "I know why I'm fighting.
I'm fighting to save the planet, and that's that.
But besides that, there's something personal too...
A very personal memory that I have.
What about you all?
I want all of you to find that something within yourselves.
If you don't find it, then that's okay too.
You can't fight without a reason, right?
So, I won't hold it against you if you don't come back."
—As the team approaches the day of their showdown with Sephiroth for the life of the Planet

Perhaps the most honest speeches ever given by heroes. Made all the more heroic because they are flawed, they know this, and they don't believe themselves to be heroes. They're each just trying to protect something that's important to them.

This dialogue tells you that it's okay to be flawed; just do the best you can. If, at any point, you forgot why you wanted to see these people succeed, this reaffirms it. It's because they could be you.
 

Pixel

The Pixie King
So difficult to choose just 7

Aerith: I want to know you. The real you.

Aerith: I'll be going now. I'll come back when it's all over.

Nanaki: I am Nanaki, son of Seto... Warrior and protector of Cosmo Canyon.

Tifa: As long as I'm with you... As long as you're by my side... I won't give up even if I'm scared.

Tifa: This day will never come again, so let me have this moment.

Sephiroth: What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion.

Cloud: Alright everybody, let's mosey!


Honorable mention

Tifa: Oh! Cloud! Your hair looks like a Chocobo!
 

Carlie

CltrAltDelicious
AKA
Chloe Frazer
When we were doing the Lets Play recently Tifa delivered this nonsensical line to Cloud when Sephiroth is showing the truth about the Nibhelheim incident which I thought was very funny:

Tifa: Cloud don't listen to him, cover your eyes!

Other lines:

Cid: Sit your ass down in that chair and drink your goddamn TEA!

Cid: You're stupid. You're really fucking stupid.

Cid: Huh? What the hell're you sayin'? You're still young, and you give up that easily?

Cid: Hey, do you know who I am? I'm Cid—that's who the hell I am! Now just let me handle it!

Cid: Even the moon'd tire of waitin' around for your ass!

Cid: It's gonna get so hot in there that there a'int gonna be SHIT left when we blast off!

Cid: This's gonna be a big splash. Hold on to your drawers, an' don't piss in 'em!!

Really anything that comes out of Cid's mouth. :monster:

Cloud: All right, everyone. Let's mosey.

Cloud: It's not my problem.

Cloud: Not interested.

Cloud is so eloquent.

Tifa: Cloud... Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking...

Tifa: Oh! Cloud! Your hair looks like a Chocobo!

Tifa: Quit slapping me! You old wench!!!

Tifa: Will you stop acting like a retard and climb?! It's only a few more floors anyway!

Aerith: I'll rip them off!

Aerith: He always said that just once, he'd like to dress up like a girl.

Aerith: Oh you're so cute, Miss Cloud.

Aerith: Hey, that's Cloud's line! '...It's too dangerous, I can't get you involved...' Blah blah blah.

Aerith is far snarkier and funny than people give her credit.

Barret: Who you callin' Mr. Barret? That don't sound right!

Barret: Stop actin' like a damn kid. Si'down and shu'up!

Barret: Don't go thinkin' you so bad jes ‘cuz you was in SOLDIER.

Barret: You Spiky Haired Jerk!

Barret: I'll go upside your spikey blonde head and bring you back to normal!

Barret: I know you got problems... hell, we all do. But you gotta understand that there ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on, till we get to the end of the line.

Barret: Cetra? That some kinda disease?

Barret: I've been here since the beginning and I still don't know what the hell's goin' on

Barret: You damn Midgar hyena...!

Barret: Don't forget that your skinny ass's workin' for AVALANCHE now!

Barret: Where's its fucking head? This whole thing's stupid. Let's keep goin'.

Barret totally wasn't Mr T.

Vincent: Vincent. My occupation is...forget it.

Vincent: Hojo...what a queer fellow.

That one still makes me laugh.

Yuffie: ...boring story number one!

Yuffie: Cloud...sign this. It's a contract that says when the war is over, all the materia will belong to me.

Yuffie: You spikey-headed jerk! Lets go - One more time!

Yuffie: Oh, GAWD! If I knew this was gonna happen, I would've taken rope escape lessons more seriously!!

I forgot to include the conversation where Cloud admits to stealing Tifa's panties, can't find it but is one of my favorites from the game.
 
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Octo

KULT OF KERMITU
AKA
Octo, Octorawk, Clarky Cat, Kissmammal2000
Sorry for any repeats, none of these are really serious:


Cloud: (to Barret in a sailorsuit) Ahhh....you look like a bear wearing a marshmallow

Mukki(at Costa del Sol) I really like this town... you could walk around nearly naked and no one'd look twice at you.

Corneo's Lackey: Woo-hoo! I got ants in my pants wanna do a dance, gotta take a chance and mebbe find romance

Cloud: I ain't INTERESTED in a buncha scrubs like you!!

Aerith: This guy are sick.

Reno: We may be retreating... but we're still victorious.

:monster:
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
Sorry for any repeats
Don't be! If everyone avoids repeats then I'll have no way of knowing which lines are the most popular :)

Great choice of lines, by the way. Here's my first attempt, in chronological order. I may rank them later.

Aeris said:
This guy are sick.
Everyone's idea of what makes a line one of the best is different, but for me, one of the most important things is that it is memorable. Aeris's famous Engrish in Sector 5 definitely sticks in my mind. Yes, Final Fantasy VII was poorly translated, but wouldn't we all be at least slightly disappointed if this line was missing from a remake? I know I would be.

Cloud said:
Sephiroth is alive. I... I have to settle the score.
Why is he alive? Why do you have to settle the score, Cloud? What happened? A first-time player doesn't know any of those things when the line is said, yet it still manages to be an inspiring line. I think the effect is compounded because it comes just after the Shinra Building, which I think is an important part of the game for endearing Cloud to the player. We see a new side of him: a willingness to fight for someone else (as Barret notices on the stairs, if you go that way). We see the first signs of his leadership, as he instructs the others to get out of the building while he deals with Rufus alone. The line is also said just as you are leaving Midgar for the first time. That is already is a hugely significant moment in itself, but Cloud's line makes you realise that there is a much bigger struggle than you thought, and of course, you're the one who is going to have to take it on.

Sephiroth said:
Out of my way. I'm going to see my mother.
Sephiroth has lots of great lines, but this one has always stuck out the most for me. It's all about the context: on its own, the line is fairly innocuous, but in the game, it's the moment where everything really starts to get serious. The way the music starts as he says it is great, too.

Cid said:
Look at this busted Rocket. I was supposed to be the first man in space with this. Everyday, it tilts a little bit more. At this rate, I don't know which will come first, this thing falling down or me gettin' outta here.
This is the most character-specific quote on my list, but I think it's an important one. Cid is such a tragic character, but somehow he ends up being one of the central characters in the game, even becoming the party's leader at a point when he clearly doesn't expect it. This line sums up his background story, his dreams and his stubborn nature in one hit. He then turns away from Cloud, slumping over as he realises that his hopes once again depend on Shinra. How could anybody not root for the guy?

Barret said:
I know you got problems... hell, we all do. But you gotta understand that there ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on, till we get to the end of the line.
I love Barret, and he has lots of great pieces of dialogue. As I wrote during the playthrough, he has a knack for delivering biting lines - he's the most critical of Cloud out of the whole party - but in a way that tells you he means well. Sometimes bluntness is required; contrast Tifa's utter silence for most of the game when presented with things she knows to be untrue. This line in particular stands out because it becomes something of a rallying call later on, after Cloud has returned from the Lifestream. I've always liked that scene on the Highwind where he tries to explain everything. He's all apologetic, but the others just welcome him back. Like Barret says, everyone has problems.

Cloud said:
I wasn't pursuing Sephiroth. I was being summoned by Sephiroth. All the anger and hatred I bore him, made it impossible for me to ever forget him. That and what he gave me. Sephiroth? I'm here. And I brought you the Black Materia.
DON'T DO IT, CLOUD!!! :awesome: That moment is seriously screwed up, at least going by standard video game expectations, isn't it? You've been controlling this guy for the whole game, thinking that he is the hero, the one person who is going to defeat Sephiroth. Then when Cloud finally meets him, he goes completely batshit and gives him the one thing that you've been trying to keep out of his hands for absolutely ages. A truly extraordinary plot twist.

Tifa said:
Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel.
I'm not really a fan of Tifa, but this line is a good one, serving as the realisation of Cloud and Tifa's relationship and the whole game's romantic element. It's an emotional scene, once everyone else as left, and Cloud and Tifa realise they have nowhere to go, no-one to be with but each other. It's quite a suggestive line for a video game, but it's by no means certain what happened next, and I like that. The conversation is just left dangling - Cloud's next line, the only one before the screen fades to black, is just "............". Some things just have to be left up to the imagination :monster:
 
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Kuroto

Pro Adventurer
How could anybody not root for the guy?

I don't. I still think Cid is the most appalling character in all of the FF games that I've played. Close second is the assistant of his.

Anyway, carry on. I don't think I can take part in this because I really don't remember any memorable lines from the game... ^^'

EDIT: No wait! I'm giving my vote for this:

Reno: We may be retreating... but we're still victorious.

I really like that line, and it's really the only one that I can still remember clearly. And also, it's funny. :monster:
 
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Octo

KULT OF KERMITU
AKA
Octo, Octorawk, Clarky Cat, Kissmammal2000
I get where Kuruto is coming from. Cid is an abusive foul mouthed jerk, and Shera/Sierra well shes not exactly doing anything for womens rights. It's almost as fucked up a relationship as bella/edward. I mean I guess post FFVII it's all hunkydory but it's a bit wrong, she had to save his life in order to be worthy of his respect :closedmonster:

Dont get me wrong I find Cid amusing as a character but in real life he'd be awful.
 

Kuroto

Pro Adventurer
^ Thanks Octo, that is exactly why I hate him. Cid is abusive and he swears all the time. I was so put off by Cid's behaviour when I first met him in the game, and I was really shocked when he joined my party. I think the way he treated his assistant was unacceptable but so was her behaviour. She could have easily said that she actually saved his life by staying behind, but no, she just takes everything and thinks that she actually owes him! It just makes me so mad! :rage:

But that's just my opinion, everybody is entitled to have their own.
 

Jiro

Average Jiro
Shera is a push over, yes. I don't exactly condone Cid's behaviour, but he had to make a pretty life-changing decision under time-pressure and it would've fucked with him a fair bit.
 

Kittie

General Eccentric
AKA
The Iron Witch
I've seen so many excellent quotes listed already. I'm not for sure if these have been mentioned yet. They also probably aren't the most memorable lines in the game, but I personally loved them, when I saw them:

"I don't care what you are doing, so much as the idiotic way that you are doing it." — Vincent to Don Corneo in Wutai.

"People are ignorant. They'll feel better as long as someone is punished."— Rufus, upon ordering Tifa and Barret's execution in Junon.

Those are the two lines that have really stood out to me, beyond some of the more memorable ones like "I want to meet you." and "Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel."
 

Alex Strife

Ex-SOLDIER
Cid's behaviour is bad. But I don't think it has anything to do with her being a woman! I mean if she was a man, Cid would have been just as rude. Which I guess makes him look LESS like a monster.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
^Ding ding ding. He didn't give a &$#^ what her *#%ing gender was. All he could see was that she *#$&ed his life long dream by *$^&ing with some *#^$ oxygen tank that was perfectly fine.

Then he learned he was wrong, and immediately apologized, and we're to understand did all he could to change his behavior.
I did always recognize, when I played the game, that Cid never thought she was a poor engineer, he straight up tells her the opposite, he just thought she was inefficient. Not that it made it okay or whatever, but I always liked that he still acknowledged that fact.

And I would like to point out, Octo,

Someone named Octo said:
she had to save his life in order to be worthy of his respect

Incorrect. She did NOT have to save his life to earn his respect. He commented that she was right all along BEFORE she showed up.
 

Kuroto

Pro Adventurer
^Well dong dong dong, I never said it's about gender. I don't care if Cid was a woman or Shera a man, I still think that Cid had no right to behave like that. Yes, she ruined his dream, but did he even try to find out why she did what she did? Or did she ever try to tell him why? No. And if she really did such a bad job and made him so miserable, why not find a new assistant? He could have easily thrown her out, but he decided to keep her, and also make her life miserable.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
I was responding more to Octo about the woman thing, and expanding on what Alex said. He kept her because she was good chief Engineer, after all. Just slow.
Frankly, it WAS kinda stupid of her to do that during launch. She should have postponed the launch if she was so concerned, not force Cid to be a murderer if he wanted to go to space.
Again, not saying it excuses his behavior, but as you say, he DID keep her around, so he must have respected her on some level. He was even pretty gruff with his friend's after all.

But we're well off topic now, maybe a mod can split it out.
 
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Cat Rage Room

Great Old One
AKA
Mog
I dunno I think there's way worse character traits you can have than swearing all the time. I mean big whoop, if swearing makes you a bad person then toss me in there. In fact, you can go ahead and toss 99% of all sailors in there for that matter. I can see how his abusive language towards folks can be a turn off but getting your life dream ruined for you can do that. He was about to be the first man in space and it got crushed in an instant. Not many people have the chance to achieve their dreams. Not very many people even have dreams beyond playing video games and sitting on the couch. He's definitely a tragic character, wasting his talent discarded because he couldn't achieve his dream. Who wouldn't be bitter?

Cid's a dick, but he's a fundamentally good person.


Maybe I'm biased. As a Navy man I find Cids literally every single day. I'm not saying not liking him is wrong, but, I can't help but find it a little sensitive. So he swears? I mean, big deal? What matters is what he does. His actions directly and selflessly aided in saving the world. Isn't that something?

And if she really did such a bad job and made him so miserable, why not find a new assistant? He could have easily thrown her out, but he decided to keep her, and also make her life miserable.

She made her own life miserable. She easily could have quit; you are responsible for how you are treated as much as the person is treating you in whatever fashion.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
Indeed. No one is responsible for your personal happiness but yourself. That doesn't give others the right to mistreat you, but it does mean you have to take responsibility for being satisfied with your own life. Either Shera was happiest with the way they were living, or she should have stepped up.
 
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