ForceStealer
Double Growth
Yup, as stated, it's the way to get Red's ultimate weapon, the Limited Moon. I think you just have to go back to Cosmo Canyon on Disc 3, but it might have to also be after Ultima Weapon is defeated.
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Yup, as stated, it's the way to get Red's ultimate weapon, the Limited Moon. I think you just have to go back to Cosmo Canyon on Disc 3, but it might have to also be after Ultima Weapon is defeated.
Octo
KULT OF KERMITU
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Off at a tangent, but why the hell is it called the 'limited moon' I mean, it's an ultimate weapon....and yet it's limited?
Is this a mistranslation? I'm thinking limited = limit = top or something? Shouldn't it be Ultimate or Unlimited or something?
Is this a mistranslation? I'm thinking limited = limit = top or something? Shouldn't it be Ultimate or Unlimited or something?
ForceStealer
Double Growth
It looks like in Japanese it's just "Limited Moon" in katakana (rimiteddo muun). So, no help there, haha
hian
Purist
I have it on all my saves, yet can't for the life of me remember having seen that scene.
Clement Rage
Pro Adventurer
Nope, I got it long before I ever defeated Ultima.
Turlast
Lv. 25 Adventurer
After playing VII for almost 20 (not consecutive, haha) yrs, I've finally completed it. I would always get to a certain point and just stop playing, but I was determined to finally complete the game this time around. Might as well talk about it here instead of opening up a separate topic. Hopefully that's not an issue.
I honestly did it on the whim because I thought my 64-70 levels wouldn't have been enough to handle Sephiroth. There was also the fact that I was missing so many ultimate weapons. I only had like a few. I just said I'll browse the Northern Cave and see what happens. I didn't even use the save point item because I pretty much assumed I wasn't going to win. Before I went, though, I made it a point to obtain the Omnislash from the Gold Saucer. That was annoying.
As I made my way through the Northern Cave fighting those annoying monsters, I eventually realized I might have a chance. Once I got to the bottom after gaining a few more levels and various source boosts, I knew I was ready. As usual, Jenova was easy pickings for the party (Cloud/Vincent/Yuffie) and that gave a ridiculous boost in levels as well.
Bizarro Sephiroth was more annoying than hard, but I liked the idea of switching between Team #1 and Team #2 (Red XIII/Barrett/Cid) during battle. Now Safer Sephiroth was a lot tougher than expect, but not to an overwhelming point. After fighting him for awhile,
I was able to finally experience the long ass cutscene of the Supernova. Looked cool and it hurt like hell. Everyone was reduced to around 500-600 HP afterwards. Sephiroth then turned Vincent into a frog right afterwards just for the hell of it. I immediately used White wind, thinking it'd get everyone's HP back to normal, but it only restored like 200 HP.
Sephiroth proceeded to take Vincent out, then I'm left with a choice: revive Vincent, use an X-Potion, or use the Omnislash. I assumed it was over, so I decided to use the Omnislash. It ended up being a great choice because it gave me the victory. Keep in mind that I never watched the Northern Cave sequences on Youtube, the battles with Sephiroth, or basically anything. Aside from the beginning of the Northern Cave (my last playthrough ended there), all of this was new to me.
Now I just thought I'd go over some of the things I thought were hilarious:
1) The Proud Clod was hot garbage. For an "Anti-Weapon" machine, it really sucked. Rude from the Turks hits harder than Proud Clod. That beam attack can inflict some good damage, but not to a point where it's an issue. The only thing that seemed impressive was its enormous HP. Airbuster was more impressive than Proud Clod. I really liked Proud Clod's design, though, so I look forward to seeing it in Remake. Hopefully we can hear Scarlet and Heideggers stupid laughs turn to despair when it gets demolished, too.
2) Hojo, being the mad scientist that we know he is, was able to get that big ass Lost Number monster into a safe in the Shinra Mansion. That monster was pretty creepy. I would like to know more about him if they decide to go down that route.
3) Scarlet calling Tifa a "Stuck up bitch" when she's an "inhumane bitch" made me laugh a few times. Extra hype for the smacking duel in Remake!
4) Rufus making a trip all the way to Rocket City to borrow Cid's Tiny Bronco. I find it hard to believe that the friggin President of Shinra wouldn't have access to his own aircraft's. Dude even rode around in a helicopter. I also wonder how he knew Sephiroth was going towards The Temple of the Ancients unless Sephiroth somehow leaked that information.
5) Heidegger running around beating up on random people always got a little chuckle out of me. I hate that asshole.
6) Cid's relationship with Shera. It was nice to see him apologize after holding her responsible for destroying his dream. The way he talked to her was rather over the top, so I'm interested if this'll be toned down or not.
7) I really liked Dyne. He's one of the characters you truly feel sorry for. His hatred consumed him and plunged him into darkness. I know he went crazy at the Gold Saucer, but you can't blame him.
8) The Turks are awesome! Hated them as a kid (Reno would turn all of my characters into a pyramid and I didn't know you could break it lol), but I've grown to respect them since.
Overall, it was really fun. I played RPG's before VII, but it was the gateway to my love for future RPG's. Glad I was able to finally complete it. Looking forward to remake.
Some yrs back, I always wondered if it was "too late" to get into VII and have meaningful discussions on it, but the Lifestream has put those doubts to rest. Completely. Love this forum.
I honestly did it on the whim because I thought my 64-70 levels wouldn't have been enough to handle Sephiroth. There was also the fact that I was missing so many ultimate weapons. I only had like a few. I just said I'll browse the Northern Cave and see what happens. I didn't even use the save point item because I pretty much assumed I wasn't going to win. Before I went, though, I made it a point to obtain the Omnislash from the Gold Saucer. That was annoying.
As I made my way through the Northern Cave fighting those annoying monsters, I eventually realized I might have a chance. Once I got to the bottom after gaining a few more levels and various source boosts, I knew I was ready. As usual, Jenova was easy pickings for the party (Cloud/Vincent/Yuffie) and that gave a ridiculous boost in levels as well.
Bizarro Sephiroth was more annoying than hard, but I liked the idea of switching between Team #1 and Team #2 (Red XIII/Barrett/Cid) during battle. Now Safer Sephiroth was a lot tougher than expect, but not to an overwhelming point. After fighting him for awhile,
I was able to finally experience the long ass cutscene of the Supernova. Looked cool and it hurt like hell. Everyone was reduced to around 500-600 HP afterwards. Sephiroth then turned Vincent into a frog right afterwards just for the hell of it. I immediately used White wind, thinking it'd get everyone's HP back to normal, but it only restored like 200 HP.
Sephiroth proceeded to take Vincent out, then I'm left with a choice: revive Vincent, use an X-Potion, or use the Omnislash. I assumed it was over, so I decided to use the Omnislash. It ended up being a great choice because it gave me the victory. Keep in mind that I never watched the Northern Cave sequences on Youtube, the battles with Sephiroth, or basically anything. Aside from the beginning of the Northern Cave (my last playthrough ended there), all of this was new to me.
Now I just thought I'd go over some of the things I thought were hilarious:
1) The Proud Clod was hot garbage. For an "Anti-Weapon" machine, it really sucked. Rude from the Turks hits harder than Proud Clod. That beam attack can inflict some good damage, but not to a point where it's an issue. The only thing that seemed impressive was its enormous HP. Airbuster was more impressive than Proud Clod. I really liked Proud Clod's design, though, so I look forward to seeing it in Remake. Hopefully we can hear Scarlet and Heideggers stupid laughs turn to despair when it gets demolished, too.
2) Hojo, being the mad scientist that we know he is, was able to get that big ass Lost Number monster into a safe in the Shinra Mansion. That monster was pretty creepy. I would like to know more about him if they decide to go down that route.
3) Scarlet calling Tifa a "Stuck up bitch" when she's an "inhumane bitch" made me laugh a few times. Extra hype for the smacking duel in Remake!
4) Rufus making a trip all the way to Rocket City to borrow Cid's Tiny Bronco. I find it hard to believe that the friggin President of Shinra wouldn't have access to his own aircraft's. Dude even rode around in a helicopter. I also wonder how he knew Sephiroth was going towards The Temple of the Ancients unless Sephiroth somehow leaked that information.
5) Heidegger running around beating up on random people always got a little chuckle out of me. I hate that asshole.
6) Cid's relationship with Shera. It was nice to see him apologize after holding her responsible for destroying his dream. The way he talked to her was rather over the top, so I'm interested if this'll be toned down or not.
7) I really liked Dyne. He's one of the characters you truly feel sorry for. His hatred consumed him and plunged him into darkness. I know he went crazy at the Gold Saucer, but you can't blame him.
8) The Turks are awesome! Hated them as a kid (Reno would turn all of my characters into a pyramid and I didn't know you could break it lol), but I've grown to respect them since.
Overall, it was really fun. I played RPG's before VII, but it was the gateway to my love for future RPG's. Glad I was able to finally complete it. Looking forward to remake.
Some yrs back, I always wondered if it was "too late" to get into VII and have meaningful discussions on it, but the Lifestream has put those doubts to rest. Completely. Love this forum.
Clement Rage
Pro Adventurer
Re: Tiny Bronco, they're not consistent about it, but it comes up a couple of times that Shinra doesn't have much of an air force. The Highwind is the only airship on the Planet, when that's not ready in Junon, Rufus has to take a cargo ship. Maybe the helicopters are short range? There are a few big unwieldy cargo planes, but you can't really land them anywhere without proper airstrips. Midgar also doesn't seem to have AA defences.
Funny, I liked the Turks when I was younger and then changed my mind as I found out more about them.
Funny, I liked the Turks when I was younger and then changed my mind as I found out more about them.
The Twilight Mexican
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Hilariously enough, they explicitly landed a cargo plane at or near Rocket Town. They transported the Junon huge materia there by plane, and both the party and some NPCs comment on it.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
I took it to be that, yeah, the helicopters are shorter range, and so the Tiny Bronco has the range of a plane but the VTOL capability needed to land near the forested temple. Or Rufus was just in the area when they got wind of where Sephiroth was headed and was hoping to just take that plane straight there instead of waiting for the Shinra to come pick him up.
But I dunno, it's definitely a bit anachronistic.
But I dunno, it's definitely a bit anachronistic.
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Turlast
Lv. 25 Adventurer
That brings me to another point: what was Rufus intending to do once he caught up to Sephiroth? I know finding the Promised Land was the priority, but they were all aware of how dangerous Sephiroth was. Don't tell me he was going to actually challenge him with that friggin Shotgun he used against Cloud. I can only imagine how that would look.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
Well Rufus probably thought he could deploy a level 1 Rufus speech at Sephiroth and convince him to work for/with Shinra. (Hell, it almost works on Cloud 2 years later 
) I can't imagine that would have gone well for him, though. Probably about as well as it went for Tseng.
) I can't imagine that would have gone well for him, though. Probably about as well as it went for Tseng.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
I mean "level one" as in "most severe," like a level one diagnostic, or first degree murder
Clement Rage
Pro Adventurer
Step 1: Find Sephiroth
Step 2: Call in rest of army to grind him down.
Problematic for someone that can teleport, but probably their best shot.
Step 2: Call in rest of army to grind him down.
Problematic for someone that can teleport, but probably their best shot.
Turlast
Lv. 25 Adventurer
I can just imagine how it'd go:
Rufus: "Sephiroth, this world can be ours. We at Shinra are dedicated to controlling this world through fear. My idiotic father tried to use money and power, but thanks to you, that will no longer be an issue. Just imagine...all of the Mako energy you could ever want and a land of perfection all to ourselves. It's right in our grasps!"
Sephiroth: "Only the Ancients have access to the Promised Land and true control over what happens to this planet. Mother and I will do as we please. I am becoming one with this planet. The idea of us sharing the Promised Land with vermin such as you is laughable."
Rufus: *Flicks hair* So you don't want to rule this world by my side? That's unfortunate. I was hoping we could become good friends with a common goal....*Readies Shotgun* Guess I'll have to force you to submit."
Sephiroth: "Hahahahahahaha.....Inferior specimen. Know your place.
*Rufus fires a blast at Sephiroth, which is deflected by the Masamune. Sephiroth then proceeds to impale Rufus and hold him up in the air while laughing maniacally*
Sephiroth: "Don't you see? This is your fate. Return to the planet and emerge as spiritual energy that'll assimilate with me. That is your duty."
Rufus: "M...my...world....Sep..hiroth............."
*A couple yards away was a mysterious chubby person. It was Palmer, who managed to go undetected*
Palmer: "Heh-hic-heh-hic! The president is finished. No surprise. This monster is outta my league, but I'm not entirely useless. Sephiroth doesn't know I'm here, so he's wide open. If I manage to take him out, hell, they.....oughta make me the new president. I may not be a Shinra, but I'd be known as "The Great Palmer!! The guy who successfully killed Sephiroth!!" This will be history in the making!! Just you wait, world!"
*Palmer eyes the unaware Sephiroth as he prepares his Mako Gun, setting it to Full-Power*
Palmer: "Heh-hic. Riches, women, power, control, respect, everything is within reach. And it'll all be mine starting now! I will no longer be the fat bald guy people can make fun of!!"
*Palmer pulls the trigger, surrounding Sephiroth with bolts of energy. When everything cleared, Sephiroth's form was gone*
Palmer: "Hic. I did it!! Sephiroth is no more, Sephiroth is no more, Sephiroth is no more!! Heh-hic. I'm taking control of this world from this point forward. Not even those AVALANCHE idiots can.....
Sephiroth: "It seems a miserable creature like yourself thought you were able to inflict a scratch on me. The idiocy of humans knows no bounds."
Palmer: "No, no...please. Mr. Sephiroth. I didn't even like Rufus or the Shinra. I drew the president here so you could take him out. Just let me go. I would even help you become apart of the planet no matter what you ask me to do!! Please just let me go. Don't kill me....!"
Sephiroth: "Kill? A pathetic buffoon like yourself isn't worth the effort."
Palmer: *Sighs* Thank you. I apologize and will be on my way now."
Sephiroth: "Did I say I would let you go?!! Hahahahaha.....Diluted fool!"
Palmer: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
*Sephiroth transformed Palmer into a frog*
Sephiroth: "I must say...this new looks fits you perfectly. Now for the Coup de gras."
*A huge surge of lightning is unleashed from the sky and roasts Frog Palmer to bits*
Sephiroth: "This world belongs to me!!"
Rufus: "Sephiroth, this world can be ours. We at Shinra are dedicated to controlling this world through fear. My idiotic father tried to use money and power, but thanks to you, that will no longer be an issue. Just imagine...all of the Mako energy you could ever want and a land of perfection all to ourselves. It's right in our grasps!"
Sephiroth: "Only the Ancients have access to the Promised Land and true control over what happens to this planet. Mother and I will do as we please. I am becoming one with this planet. The idea of us sharing the Promised Land with vermin such as you is laughable."
Rufus: *Flicks hair* So you don't want to rule this world by my side? That's unfortunate. I was hoping we could become good friends with a common goal....*Readies Shotgun* Guess I'll have to force you to submit."
Sephiroth: "Hahahahahahaha.....Inferior specimen. Know your place.
*Rufus fires a blast at Sephiroth, which is deflected by the Masamune. Sephiroth then proceeds to impale Rufus and hold him up in the air while laughing maniacally*
Sephiroth: "Don't you see? This is your fate. Return to the planet and emerge as spiritual energy that'll assimilate with me. That is your duty."
Rufus: "M...my...world....Sep..hiroth............."
*A couple yards away was a mysterious chubby person. It was Palmer, who managed to go undetected*
Palmer: "Heh-hic-heh-hic! The president is finished. No surprise. This monster is outta my league, but I'm not entirely useless. Sephiroth doesn't know I'm here, so he's wide open. If I manage to take him out, hell, they.....oughta make me the new president. I may not be a Shinra, but I'd be known as "The Great Palmer!! The guy who successfully killed Sephiroth!!" This will be history in the making!! Just you wait, world!"
*Palmer eyes the unaware Sephiroth as he prepares his Mako Gun, setting it to Full-Power*
Palmer: "Heh-hic. Riches, women, power, control, respect, everything is within reach. And it'll all be mine starting now! I will no longer be the fat bald guy people can make fun of!!"
*Palmer pulls the trigger, surrounding Sephiroth with bolts of energy. When everything cleared, Sephiroth's form was gone*
Palmer: "Hic. I did it!! Sephiroth is no more, Sephiroth is no more, Sephiroth is no more!! Heh-hic. I'm taking control of this world from this point forward. Not even those AVALANCHE idiots can.....
Sephiroth: "It seems a miserable creature like yourself thought you were able to inflict a scratch on me. The idiocy of humans knows no bounds."
Palmer: "No, no...please. Mr. Sephiroth. I didn't even like Rufus or the Shinra. I drew the president here so you could take him out. Just let me go. I would even help you become apart of the planet no matter what you ask me to do!! Please just let me go. Don't kill me....!"
Sephiroth: "Kill? A pathetic buffoon like yourself isn't worth the effort."
Palmer: *Sighs* Thank you. I apologize and will be on my way now."
Sephiroth: "Did I say I would let you go?!! Hahahahaha.....Diluted fool!"
Palmer: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
*Sephiroth transformed Palmer into a frog*
Sephiroth: "I must say...this new looks fits you perfectly. Now for the Coup de gras."
*A huge surge of lightning is unleashed from the sky and roasts Frog Palmer to bits*
Sephiroth: "This world belongs to me!!"