Bad News in Japan

[Wiegraf]

http://www.gameinformer.com/blogs/m...e-end-of-anime-and-manga-bill-156-passed.aspx

 

[Max Payne]

I was waiting for someone to make this thread.

All I can say is what I said last time.

lol.

 

[Splintered]

I'm fascinated.

I want to see how the internet will react.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

This is self-destructive for the Japanese economy too. Their economy is bad enough as it is, they will also be losing revenue from one of the largest grossing revenue items that they have which are manga, anime, and video games, if they impose the bill.

Ding ding ding.

 

[Max Payne]

Which is why I can only laugh MOG.

 

[Mariketsu]

Are they serious? Honestly serious about passing a bill that would destroy their economy?? Wat???

~ Raz

 

[Tifabelle]

Yeeaaah. I'm no genius with money (just ask my bank account)...but this is really stupid.

"Hey, I know! Let's ban one of our greatest sources of revenue!"
"Wow! That sounds like a great idea!"
"Why didn't we think of this sooner!"

 

[Dana Scully]

Can't even draw high school students?

G_G Japan

 

[Octo]

Well you know....Cardcaptor Sakura being tentacle raped by an Alien does kinda 'threaten the national character of Japan' >__>

Seriously I think this might be being blown out of proportion. Maybe I've missed something, but I dont think SE have produced any rape simulators recently (Apart from the compilation titles )

I think this is specifically aimed at the pervy stuff, neither of those articles mention violence. 'Lulzworthy' as it may be I dont think a significant enough proportion of the Japanese economy depends on hentai...correct me if Im wrong though!

It does raise the issue of censorship which is another thing entirely, but this isnt the end of manga and anime.

 

[Tifabelle]

Seriously I think this might be being blown out of proportion. Maybe I've missed something, but I dont think SE have produced any rape simulators recently (Apart from the compilation titles )

They barely even show blood during fights!

I think this is specifically aimed at the pervy stuff, neither of those articles mention violence. 'Lulzworthy' as it may be I dont think a significant enough proportion of the Japanese economy depends on hentai...correct me if Im wrong though!

It does raise the issue of censorship which is another thing entirely, but this isnt the end of manga and anime.

Well, they're going to have to tone down some things I guess. It's really stupid. I don't understand how any of these things is dangerous to the youth of the country. Is it the end of anime and whatnot? I doubt it, but if they can't show "virtual crime", that includes a lot of things. Plus, how do you create villians that can't commit crime? Although it seems the bill (either that or the article) is waffley on what is acceptable and not. Unless I missed something.

I don't see Pokemon as being a problem, so I doubt things like that will be affected. Or will they?

This is a big deal for some major companies. Although it does say they can move out of Tokyo. Which would be a pain in the ass, and could cause problems. But maybe a major company moving to another city could be good for that city.

The whole thing just seems weird to me.

 

[Octo]

Well, they're going to have to tone down some things I guess. It's really stupid. I don't understand how any of these things is dangerous to the youth of the country. Is it the end of anime and whatnot? I doubt it, but if they can't show "virtual crime", that includes a lot of things. Plus, how do you create villians that can't commit crime? Although it seems the bill (either that or the article) is waffley on what is acceptable and not. Unless I missed something.

Well the way it has been worded suggests to me that they're talking about sexual stuff. Japan has always had a pretty weird attitude to censorship, they can depict stomach churning stuff just as long as the end of a cock is pixelated - cos thats really naughty!

This just seems like locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. Also, if its a Tokyo based thing how would they enforce it on the internet? I find it hard to believe that many people are still buying printed hentai over there, why would they? When you can just download it and spare yourself dirty looks from a shopkeeper?

Its almost as if they have only just cottoned on to the fact that the rest of the world thinks theyre massive schoogirl knicker smelling perverts, and now theyre attempting to do something about it

Again its a censorship thing. It mentions that stuff that doesnt comply with this law will be 'banned from general sales' not banned outright. So certain stuff with be 18+ or whatever. I have got the impression from friends who have visited Japan that getting your hands on hentai is pretty easy, its not confined to sex shops. Basically this law sounds like an attempt to stop underage kids/youth seeing the stuff (which with the internet and all, is pretty impossible)

The vagueness of the wording is worrying though because sticking 'etc' on the end of a clause could literally mean anything. So maybe it could be the beginning of a crack down on the more violent and mature manga and anime in general.

 

[Tifabelle]

Well, I think it's a good thing to confine "questionable" material to adult shops. I don't necessarily have a problem with that. But the term "virtual crime" can encompass things outside of sexual material. That can include murder, any type of physical violence, kidnapping, jaywalking, idk.

But like you said, how do you control the internet? Especially as one city? How do you ban stuff from one city? A show can still air on tv, but not in Tokyo? Not sure how such a thing would work. And if someone wanted to buy said material, they would have to buy from outside Tokyo. Which wouldn't hurt Japan as a whole, but might hurt Tokyo a bit.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Like trying to put the genie back in the bottle, isn't it? It will be fun to see what happens now... But I predict that little will change.

 

[Shademp]

"Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged"

...WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!

 

[Animexcel]

People are getting the wrong idea. Read this instead.

http://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com/2...ight-misconceptions-about-bill-156-and-japan/

 

[Dashell]

OH wow I thought it was banning all manga and anime at first I was like WTF?

boy am I glad that's not the case

 

[Super Mario]

I would've attacked the Capital if that were the case. It's hard enough getting to watch Riderz, I don't want my animu taken from me.

 

[Dashell]

lol @ the guy on my One Piece board who thinks OP might be affected by this I mean Christ they'd have to get rid of every Shonen Jump in the business if that was the case.

 

[Elisa Maza]

I don't give two shits about the shounen series. What terrifies me is the problems that will arise for so many less popular, much better in quality series than the series from the magazine for prudes aka SJ. To hell with them. Oyasumi Punpun? Homonculus? Monester? Akumetsu?

What about manhwa? Eviyone?

 

[Super Mario]

Oh gott... Franken Fran. 8| We might lose franken fran.

 

[Ghost X]

Is it banning entire genres, or just making it illegal for children to access them? Its late, I'm tired, and I keep hearing mixed messages. Banning stuff entirely just pushes it underground, or like in Australia where adult games are banned, the classification authorities often give adult games lesser ratings, making them MORE accessible to children. There is no logic to any form of censorship in my opinion. Are we too lazy to improve our education systems to prevent criminal responses to violent/sexual media?

The guy who came up with the idea is apparently a hypocrite anyway. Coming out with controversial stuff in his younger years himself.

 

[Dashell]

Is it banning entire genres, or just making it illegal for children to access them?

The second one.

 

[Alex]

Am I a bad person because I saw the thread title and instinctively thought the topic would be about a Godzilla sighting?

 

[Animexcel]

When I read the title, I thought another anime creator like Satoshi Kon passed away

 

[Makoeyes987]

I can't wait to see Japan kill themselves economically. This is so stupid it's hilarious. I hope they enjoy their further slumping industry.