Battlefield 3

Dana Scully

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YACCBS, Legato Bluesummers, Daenaerys Targaryen, Revy, Kate Beckett, Samantha Carter, Matsumoto Rangiku

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
I enjoyed the original reveal more.

Also, don't mention Killzone in relation to battlefield plz
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Don't know what your talking about, the melee sequences are awesome, but ok.

Battlefield>Killzone in every way.

You can see this just from the gameplay series trailers, starting with Fault.
 

Cookie Monster

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Not arguing with you there. I just always appreciate melee sequences. I can't stand melees in COD. GET KNIFED IN THE FOOT AND YOUR DEAD? OK.
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
I can't stand Call of Duty :/
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
I don't think I know of any shooter that has an appreciably complex melee system.

it's mostly just one magical button for everything
 

Mormz

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Dustin
Melee in a shooting game doesn't seem as important as shooting in a shooting game.
Anyways, I don't see this thrashing MW3. Mostly because they're pretty different. I'll be getting both, obv.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
Yeah I don't really think a complex melee system is absolutely necessary

but there needs to be some form of balance
not like modern warfare one-knife-kills-all mentality up to and including dismantling minigun turrets
 

Mormz

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Dustin
Blops was what dismantled turrets. But, to be fair, the knives in Blops are actually super knives crafted from steel made by dragons. So, it kind of makes sense.

World at War had, I suppose, the most realistic knifing of recent CoD games. The player actually stabbed the enemy, not slashed. But, a lot of games do it either way, so meh.
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
CO-OP CONFIRMED FUCK YES.

Battlefield>CoD
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Assault/Medic
The Assault and Medic a classes have been combined now, where the Assault class can either chose to heal/revive teammates, or you can opt for a grenade launcher instead of the revive kit, if you want more firepower.
Support
The Support class is now the one handing out ammunition, and can also provide covering fire. You can mount your LMG and if fire in the direction of the enemy, you’ll get special bonus points for providing covering fire for your teammates. You can also select an assault rifle with a flashlight for the dark parts of maps (like tunnels), instead of the LMG.
Engineer
The Engineer retains much of his role and load-out from Bad Company 2, you’re equipped with rocket launchers against enemy armor, and a repair tool to fix friendly vehicles, and a sub machine gun.
Sniper
The Sniper has the same role as in previous Battlefield games, and is armed with a sniper rifle, C4 explosives, and spotting gear.
We’ll have more details as we get some hand-on time with Battlefield 3 here at E3.

http://bf3blog.com/2011/06/battlefield-3-classes-revealed/

I like.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
Still probably won't solve the Wookiee problem though
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
I don't think I know of any shooter that has an appreciably complex melee system.

it's mostly just one magical button for everything

Counter-Strike, ftw :monster:. It has two buttons for melee! And it matters in CS(S), especially in GunGame and zombie mod and the like.

Anyways. I am excite. Seems to become the best PC game in years. And, off course, beat CoD hands-down, especially if they can keep the haxorz out like they're able to right now in BC2.

I'll definitely need a new PC though, :monster:. BC2 runs kinda shitty right now, certainly compared to some of the awesomer videos on the interwebz. This is most likely due to it being a console port and my PC not having excess CPU capacity (anymore). For most games this isn't a problem, but BC2 was optimized to use the CPU for just about everything.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
It's sort of interesting, though: third-person shooters lend themselves far better to more complex melee combat systems, where the majority of first-person shooters have a single universal attack (w or w/o variations ofc) or form more complex melee by taking RPG elements. :monster:
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
True that. The main reason for that is eyecandy though - fancy melee attacks in first-person just don't look that great. Look at the demo of Skyrim, for example.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
Yeah even with, say, Oblivion, I was really wierded out by what seemed like a really anaemic experience in first person stuff like using swords and everything. idk, I guess I'm used to having awesome dynamic balletic swordplay, but it just felt... meh

OT, I don't expect anything from Battlefield 3 except for knifing and maybe punching. Punching would be nice.

Also more hardcore. Also, maybe, neck-snapping. Or choke holding and dragging people. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it. Ah, a man can dream.
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
It'll probably turn out to be quicktime events. Whoever invented those should die. Whoever thought it was awesome to let a game that largely depends on your leet skillz in freeform combo's and timing and the like end with a quicktime event should die also.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
I don't mind creative use of timing and button combos, but the regular Press-X-To-Not-Die thing is fairly restrictive imo.
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
I just updated to a quad core CPU last month, and it looks like it's not going to be enough already.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
OHGODAT-REX oh okay this is actually pretty cool


So what are the system reqs?
 
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