Cids swearing

AerithLives

Pro Adventurer
Will SE translate EVERYTHING? Lol.

Or will they puss out like they did in Advent Children?

This I would like to see!
 

Dangerous Toast

Rookie Adventurer
My gut instinct is it will be toned down, anything that was already censored will be removed or at least sanitized to acceptable swearing. I also expect smoking to be gone, far less socially acceptable that it was almost 20 years ago.
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
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hitoshura
do what brutal legend did and have the swearing bleeped out to recreate the feel of the original
 

Ami

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Taking away his cigarettes would be ridiculous, it's something that everyone associates with his character. As for the swearing itself, I expect they'll bleep it for shits and giggles if anything. :awesome:
 

Sublime

Gravitas? What gravitas?
I think it would be really shit if they removed his smoking. At the end of the day, this is a story with characters. You can't have a rich story when all the characters have been politically corrected into identical androids.

Hell, why not take it one step further and have ACTUAL androids instead of characters. And then they can't be accused of having more male than female characters etc. >_>
 

Wolf_

Pro Adventurer
I think they should have a parental control type option where it beeps it out if required. Killing people is far less socially acceptable than it used to be. It's still in the game. If they are going for gritty realism then a pack of sterling menthol and a couple of "cunts" here and there is the least of square's problems.
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
* Ban smoking and swearing
* Promote wielding large swords and killing lots of people in brutal ways

I mean what? :monster:
 

Jason Tandro

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That is all.
 

Ⓐaron

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The Man, V
If they want to maintain a T rating they can still have him say "shit" all the time. They just can't have any/many F-bombs.
 

Wolf_

Pro Adventurer
What is a teen rating tho. In the UK we have 12/15/18 as far as I remember. I'd rather it be a 15 or even 18 and make the scary bits frightening, the deaths bloody and the language foul. Judging by the amount of people who have apparently banged my mum on call of duty I'm going to guess that having an age rating won't hurt sales to the younger players.
 

Animexcel

Pro Adventurer
Not sure how it is for games, but for movies, a PG-13 film will allow at least 2 f bombs according to the Mr. & Mrs. Smith commentary :P So maybe they could slide a couple in somehow.
 

Kermitu Kleric Katie

KULT OF KERMITU
I think they should bleep all the lines that were originally censored to keep the feel of the original, which had no f-bombs, just various symbols that were implied to be f-bombs or some other vulgar expletive, so it'd be a bit jarring to hear uncensored f-bombs coming out of a character's mouth in the game. And I doubt they'd remove his smoking, at least not in the Japanese version. I could see them maybe doing it with the U.S. version, though.
 

55-

Probably Evan Townshend
What is a teen rating tho. In the UK we have 12/15/18 as far as I remember. I'd rather it be a 15 or even 18 and make the scary bits frightening, the deaths bloody and the language foul. Judging by the amount of people who have apparently banged my mum on call of duty I'm going to guess that having an age rating won't hurt sales to the younger players.
Teen rating is 13+, Mature is 17+

Games with multiplayer always cover their own asses, and don't accept any responsibility for things said by players.

I definitely don't think a M rating will scare off teenage players, it'll only make them want the game more. But, they won't be able to buy the game on their own. (I only know that M ratings are 17+ because I'm still salty about gamestop not letting me buy Devil May Cry when I was 17 because I didn't have a drivers license yet.)

Tbh I think they're going to have a difficult time getting a Teen rating, what with things like Aeris getting impaled and all.
 

CameoAmalthea

Pro Adventurer
Honestly, with how bloody the original game it should have a M rating in HD - when Sephiroth slaughters everyone in the Shinra building he paints the walls with their blood, it looks like something from a horror game.

As for smoking, since 2007 the MPAA has considered smoking as a factor in rating movies, often bumping up ratings for gratuitous smoking. Since 2012 there has been a push, at least in movies, that smoking should mean an automatic R rating - because of studies linking minors seeing smoking with minors taking up smoking.

However, there has yet to be any strong push against smoking in video games (perhaps because people are still busy being concerned over violence and sex in video games). Video games seem to get away with more in general than movies in terms of violence and sex. In movies an NC17 rating effectively kills the movie and things are cut to get down R, with video games the only things which get an A for Adults Only are usually things that have straight up pornographic material or real gambling - things legally limited to adults. And the M rating seems less restrictive than R ratings since many teens can get adults to buy them M video games more readily than take them to R rated movies.

From the trailer though - it looks like they're going for an older audience with 7 (they can get kids with Final Fantasy Word and younger teens with KH). The AVALANCHE guys you see in the trailer against the wall look straight out of Metal Gear or any war game. An M rating wouldn't hurt the game's sales - so I'm not sure I could see them sacrificing anything to get the T rating.

In KH a lot of things were edited out (smoking, alcohol, guns in the Pirates of the Caribbean section - because it was a bad idea to put a PG-13 movie in a game that leans towards PG) - but that's an E10 game and making it T might hurt sales since they want to pick up younger players with the disney appeal (despite the game being a better fit for teens in many ways with all the existential angst).

I don't think having FFVII rated M would hurt sales. Look at Skyrim v Elderscrolls, the jump to M hurt nothing (though some parents wouldn't let their teens play it - which I think is silly because the stuff you know by the time your in high school is worse than any R rated movie).

But really, I just don't see how the violence in the game could get a T rating. With swearing you can have a T rating if it's infrequent enough - and as stated smoking isn't that big of a deal in game so far - but FFVII has a lot of blood.

But maybe that can argue since the original is rated T - and the remake has the same content the rating should stay?
 

Wolf_

Pro Adventurer
Snake still has a packet of cigarettes so cud can have some too. They just need one of the characters to say singing along the lines of "those things'll kill ya" I hope they can argue the case but i don't want them to reign the content in to get a lower rating. I'm genuinely excited to see the aftermath of Jenova breaking out of that tank. I'm picturing flickering lights lighting up that HD Crimson trail of destruction.
 

ultima espio

Pro Adventurer
He swore a bit in DoC. "If you really wanna piss off those deepground bastards", and Fang swore a bit in the XIII series, so...

I can only imagine the F and C words being removed.
 

Dragonslayer Ornstein

Pro Adventurer
Good point, Cameo raises. If it's different for videogames they should do it now whilst that's still the case and make liberal use of what hasn't been censored yet.
 

Sublime

Gravitas? What gravitas?
If they did allow swearing in particular in the way he speaks to Shera I think SE would have to have one or more of the other characters pointedly tell him off for it or defend her in some way for it to be acceptable.
 

Drax

Pro Adventurer
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Benoist; Captain Highwind
Have Cid mildly cuss in voice acting scenes, then have him go all out in text in non-voice scenes...you know, like they do in FFXIV. That games is full of potty mouths, more than FFVII ever was.

Especially from the lalafell NPCs, strangely. :closedmonster:
 

SirVival

Pro Adventurer
* Ban smoking and swearing
* Promote wielding large swords and killing lots of people in brutal ways

I mean what? :monster:

This, @#%#$^! Since when did things become so fucked up? I don't want to live anymore... or wait, I do, the remake is happening! WOHOO!
 

Starling

Pro Adventurer
They can't remove smoking without ruining Cid's dynamite limit break, his victory pose and the expression he makes when the Highwind crashes into the North Crater.
 

Octo

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Whats the highest rating an SE game has ever had?

Anyway, I think they should keep the swearing in, even him abusing Shera because y'know it happened in the fucking plot.

But I guess it all goes back to who is this game for - is it for the old fans who are in their 20's and 30's or is it for impressionable foetuses....foeti?
 
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