Did Sephiroth know....

[Octo]

about Lucrecia? I mean he pretty much read every document in the Shinra mansions basement, so wouldn't he have an idea? Its probable that the documents didnt mention her by name, but he would have known that his real mother was a human right?

 

[Cat Rage Room]

He would have known after his dive into the Lifestream.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

about Lucrecia? I mean he pretty much read every document in the Shinra mansions basement, so wouldn't he have an idea? Its probable that the documents didnt mention her by name, but he would have known that his real mother was a human right?

His little speech in AC would indicate no.

 

[Tifabelle]

If her name was mentioned in the documents, he probably wouldn't have burned Nibelheim and called Jenova "Mother". After falling into the Lifestream? I dunno...

 

[Tennyo]

Would knowing that Lucrecia was his real mother even matter to him, though? Maybe he thinks it is an insignificant detail in the light of Jenova's awesomeness?

 

[Octo]

Well the mother thing confused me a bit too, I know he'd been told, presumably by Hojo, that his mother was dead and that his mother was called Jenova (am I alone in thinking Hojo was a fucking idiot to tell him that?)

But still, those documents would have said about how he was concieved and the experiment. But it also would have said that it was cells extracted from an alien....I just dont get his affection for it, calling it mother and all that. (Other than the fact that it makes everything more dramatic for those scenes)

 

[ForceStealer]

I could be wrong, but I don't believe Sephiroth calls Jenova "Mother" at all after his time in the Lifestream until the end of the Advent Children. I always got the impression that once he regained his composure and was able to control her with his will, he realized he was superior to her anyway.
It could be that he stopped because he learned the truth in the Lifestream, but as Tenny said he may not have cared, he could have viewed Lucrecia as merely a surrogate mother. If Sephiroth did know that it was Hojo's mojo that made him, you'd think it would bother him more - as Hojo says himself, he'd die if he knew.

But again, its possible that Sephiroth had the clarity of mind to realize that he was smarter and more powerful than any being on the planet, including his alien mother, and things like his origin weren't really important anymore.

 

[Mitch Connor]

lol Hojo's mojo made him.

Anyways ya Im sure by the time he learned about his human mother when he dived into the lifestream, it was just trivial information at that point to him

 

[Celes Chere]

If he'd known sooner, maybe he wouldn't have ended up the way he did. Be he was waaay beyond saving and totally snapped after 'the dive' as everyone is calling it. xD So I'm sure even if he found out he would either not care, or he'd delude himself even more, perhaps twisting the facts and constructing more lies.

 

[Masamune]

Who's to say he wouldn't have snapped anyway, having found out his birth mother treated like him a lab rat? This would probably disrupt his mind even more: Why did Lucrecia do this? What happened to her? Mind snaps. Jenova instincts take over and the rampage begins.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

But still, those documents would have said about how he was concieved and the experiment. But it also would have said that it was cells extracted from an alien....

Whether the documents mentioned Lucrecia is unknown, but they referred to JENOVA as a Cetra rather than an alien. Gast made a mistake about what the creature was.

 

[Sigbru]

From Sephiroth speech in the flashback, what he read in the library was Gast study from the Ancients, I don't think he read anything from the JENOVA project there

Thinking about, one if ShinRa biggest screw ups was telling Sephiroth his mother was called Jenova. Really, couldn't they just make up a name?

 

[Shademp]

Sephiroth's prime objective, presumably, when in the Lifestream was to gain knowledge about the Ancients. Information about a woman named Lucrecia may have gone by undetected to him, as he merely focused on gaining the means to become a god. I certainly think he will have realised that Jenova was not an Ancient, but not necessarily gained knowledge about his human mother.

But honestly no one knows. It is very possible Sephiroth knows by the time of the first game, but the story wouldn't contradict itself if we learned in an official book or in a later title that he does not know of Lucrecia.

This reminds of something I ache to see in the final Compilation entry... A reunion of Lucrecia and Sephiroth.
Have Sephiroth briefly return (as little screen time as possible) only to face Lucrecia. Let her hug him. I don't care what direction the story takes after but, but as long as we get new closure to Lucrecia's line "I never got to hold him...not even once..."

If Square does this, I will be a happy fan.

 

[ForceStealer]

They may have missed their chance for that...as bringing Sephiroth back in any way, shape or form will be exceeding risky. You could have Lucrecia do that as a hallucination, that could be interesting.

 

[Shademp]

They may have missed there chance for that...as bringing Sephiroth back in any way, shape or form will be exceeding risky. You could have Lucrecia do that as a hallucination, that could be interesting.

Ooh, or how about this one? *goes on a brief fanfic frenzy*
Have Lucrecia be infected by something which destroys the Jenova cells inside her, let her die and then have her hug Sephiroth in the Lifestream while carrying this infection, pass the infection/cure to him which will erase even Sephiroth's evolved Jenova cells and WHOILA Sephiroth is now merely a memory.

Ok I'll stop this silliness now.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Sephiroth's prime objective, presumably, when in the Lifestream was to gain knowledge about the Ancients. Information about a woman named Lucrecia may have gone by undetected to him, as he merely focused on gaining the means to become a god. I certainly think he will have realised that Jenova was not an Ancient, but not necessarily gained knowledge about his human mother.

I think he knew, if not from the knowledge of the Lifestream, then from his ability to touch the minds of those with JENOVA's cells. Lucrecia was having dreams about Sephiroth at the same time that he was calling carriers of the cells to the Reunion.

Even those able to resist the full affects still felt it, like the former SOLDIER running the accessory shop in Junon.

 

[ForceStealer]

Those are good points. I never actually thought about Lucrecia's dreams having to do with Sephiroth's calls for the Reunion. I guess I just figured it....I don't know what I figured, as I said I never thought about it - makes sense though

And there are so many little story nuances in Junon that are so easy to miss if you just follow your undercover team down the road as I did in my very first playthrough, lol.

 

[Octo]

Sorry...yeah I forgot about Gast thinking Jenova was a Cetra, so he wouldn't have known all that.

I dont think it would have made much of a difference if he'd known he had a human mother....I just got to thinking because of his "was I made like this" line, referring to the guys in the tanks. It made out that he was bothered about that....but obviously he didnt really give a shit


Makes me wonder though, Ifalna told Gast all about how Jenova wasn't an ancient and was in fact a very bad thing. But Gast was all like, "yeah? thats interesting babe. Now lets get bizzay!" *

I suppose he should have done something, knowing that a very dangerous creature was in the hands of Hojo, who was batshit crazy. Though its not made clear in the game, Im assuming Ifalna told Gast all that stuff after Sephiroth was born, but still, they should have incinerated Jenova or something.

Phew...I forgot how bloody complicated this damn game was. I really should stick to things I can follow, like Mario or Katamari!


*This didn't happen.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

about Lucrecia? I mean he pretty much read every document in the Shinra mansions basement, so wouldn't he have an idea? Its probable that the documents didnt mention her by name, but he would have known that his real mother was a human right?

I hardly believe that he managed to read every one of the journals and not hear about lucresia. After all she was merely the human vessel from where he was created, Jenova still remains his mother for all intensive purposes.