I'm not sure where I read it, but I believe somewhere it says that the only story that was supposed to be in the canon story would be Tidus and Jecht's and what would happen to them if they met in the farplane. Something along the lines of that...
I don't know where you heard that. I've never heard such a statement, and even so, that'd make no sense. Why would it only apply to one set of characters and not the rest?
As I've said in the past, there's no reason at all to doubt the validity of the story and its relevance since its a true Final Fantasy title that has continuity with each installment in the series. Dissidia may not actually effect the individual stories of each past FF or subsequent ones, but that's because it's its own contained narrative and crossover. That doesn't change the fact these are the characters from each FF world as stated by the game and creators in a whole new setting.
There's too much continuity and consistency for it to be something equivalent to KH and not canon or in continuity. Each character references their past adventures and story throughout the game, and it explains why and how each of them got there.
The only FF it truly effects would be FFI since it truly fleshes out the original story and world of that game, and then a bit of FFV, since apparently
it was Garland who sent Shinryu and Omega into the Interdimensional Rift.
Previously, it was thought that Garland of IX was simply a shout out to the original. But given Dissidia, and his lines to and from the Genomes, what if IX Garland is the same as I Garland, or at least a splinter of himself? This isn't to declare 'yes this is so', more just idle speculation from a sleep starved man.
Previously, it was thought that Garland of IX was simply a shout out to the original. But given Dissidia, and his lines to and from the Genomes, what if IX Garland is the same as I Garland, or at least a splinter of himself? This isn't to declare 'yes this is so', more just idle speculation from a sleep starved man.
I think it's more an ironic coincidence that was done as a humorous reference to FFIX's Garland. I mean, he says a line similar to Garland's from FFIX. That's about it. That's way too loose to pin a specific, connection. They're just different people with the same name.
Squall says a line similar to Ultimecia's in his Destiny Odyssey, claiming that the manikins keep coming and are "swarming like locusts." Again, another subtle nod to what Ultimecia said about SeeD.
I think it's more an ironic coincidence that was done as a humorous reference to FFIX's Garland. I mean, he says a line similar to Garland's from FFIX. That's about it. That's way too loose to pin a specific, connection. They're just different people with the same name.
As I said in my first post, I'm not trying to front this as anything other than speculation from a sleep deprived mind.
Squall says a line similar to Ultimecia's in his Destiny Odyssey, claiming that the manikins keep coming and are "swarming like locusts." Again, another subtle nod to what Ultimecia said about SeeD.
There is that, but for some reason, the Genome's comments, felt, more directed, somehow. Like they were barbs for Garly. It's what got me thinking in the first place. Not thinking it was so, just thinking 'what if it were?'
I understand it's just speculation, but there's simply no way FF I Garland and FF IX Garland are related. FF IX Garland was an android built by the Terrans, there's no room for him to be a splinter version of Cornelia's best knight.
It's more than "not canon," but I seriously would take it with a grain of salt. Artistic license lets them mess around with the story, so if it directly conflicts with actual canon I would ignore it. It's obvious story and continuity was the least of their worries when they made dissidia.
It's more than "not canon," but I seriously would take it with a grain of salt. Artistic license lets them mess around with the story, so if it directly conflicts with actual canon I would ignore it. It's obvious story and continuity was the least of their worries when they made dissidia.
I believe it is perfectly canon, aside from a few minor details which can easily be patched up, such as Cecil being able to switch between Dark Knight and Paladin. Cosmos could have easily given him that ability, considering he has had both powers, and uses them for good rather than evil. I don't find any other really big problems with any of the stories conflicting with Dissidia, aside from Tidus, Jecht, and Terra.
I had always been under the assumption that Tidus no longer hated his father after the course of the game, but maybe I'm incorrect. The fact that Terra again is afraid of her power is quite puzzling, as she got over that when figuring out what she wanted to fight for. Again, the fact that
Her esper form shouldn't exist can be solved the same way as Cecil's Dark Knight form can.
As for the possibility of Garland being from both I and IX, what if Terrans were really Lufenians, kinda a stretch, but yeah. The fact that
Garland's origins are revealed in Dissidia, such as the fact that he can control time, and was basically created to be a weapon for the Lufenians to protect themselves against the summons and Omega.
But yeah, in my opinion the game is perfectly canon, taking place sometime after the character's original game ends and (if applicable)before a sequel begins. Even though some of the characters retain some of the personality that they seemingly lost through the course of the game, such as Squall's wanting to be alone. A lot of the time, it's for a completely different motivation, like Squall wanting to protect his friends, just from afar rather than near, rather than not wanting to get open up. I believe Cloud's wanting to know what he's fighting for is just a big reference to right before the final battle when he told the party to go find what they're fighting for before returning.
I had always been under the assumption that Tidus no longer hated his father after the course of the game, but maybe I'm incorrect. The fact that Terra again is afraid of her power is quite puzzling, as she got over that when figuring out what she wanted to fight for. Again, the fact that
Her esper form shouldn't exist can be solved the same way as Cecil's Dark Knight form can.
Terra's memories are fucked up. She was brainwashed in the previous altercation to be a warrior of Chaos and through the circumstances of that allegiance and being revived again as a warrior of Cosmos, her memory takes a severe beating. She's not the only character to have their minds fucked up during the story. Sephiroth did as well, as a consequence of him offing himself. Tidus being mad at his dad for being on the side of evil isn't that puzzling at all, either.
As for the possibility of Garland being from both I and IX, what if Terrans were really Lufenians, kinda a stretch, but yeah. The fact that
Garland's origins are revealed in Dissidia, such as the fact that he can control time, and was basically created to be a weapon for the Lufenians to protect themselves against the summons and Omega.
That makes absolutely no sense. You can't really shoehorn those two together at all, lol.
But yeah, in my opinion the game is perfectly canon, taking place sometime after the character's original game ends and (if applicable)before a sequel begins. Even though some of the characters retain some of the personality that they seemingly lost through the course of the game, such as Squall's wanting to be alone. A lot of the time, it's for a completely different motivation, like Squall wanting to protect his friends, just from afar rather than near, rather than not wanting to get open up. I believe Cloud's wanting to know what he's fighting for is just a big reference to right before the final battle when he told the party to go find what they're fighting for before returning.
Squall didn't really want to be alone, he just didn't know who the hell these people were. You really think he's gonna warm up and treat these people as his friends from FFVIII right off the bat? That's a bit too unrealistic.
And yeah, that definitely was a reference to the final battle. I completely agree with you. ^^
Well yeah, Tidus being mad at his father for being on Chaos's side does kinda make sense, but as the Emperor stated, he was driven with a lot of hatred. It kinda makes it seem like he never forgave his father in the first place. At the same time, it is revealed that it wasn't merely just hatred that drove him to fight his father, but the need for his approval as well. So I guess looking at it that way makes it make more sense.
Terra's mind being messed up from being controlled does make sense as well.
In regards to Squall, though, I do agree with you in the fact that just meeting those people he didn't want to be with them right away. Being a Squall fan, I just completely loved the fact that he had accepted them all as his friends by the end though. (At least considering his end quote, "Perhaps we can go on a mission together again.')
What I meant with Garland was the fact that there were more similarities than we originally knew between the two. Both of them were manufactured, and were used as a sort of puppet. The fact that he had once tried to take the world by force before was another reference as well. However, in the end I think trying to say they're the same person is going to end up being like R=U theories... So, I'll stop there.
So, I'll stop there.