ERRORS in article "This Just In: the LTD is Over"

[The Twilight Mexican]

Sorry I thought everything was settled

That makes two of us.




Everyone:
I would, again, like to ask everyone who isn't Anastar to stop posting in this thread, by the way. Following her next post, I intend to either close this thing or move it to the LTD section -- depending on what it is precisely she's asking.

I don't want any more negativity coming out of this, so everyone please just allow Anastar -- and only Anastar -- to respond to my question.




Anastar:
Please make your intentions clear with your next post while bearing in mind that you've already been extended the courtesy of adding annotations to the article you began this thread to discuss, and bearing in mind that there is not going to be a discussion of details of the LTD. At least not in this forum section (and not with me regardless of the section).

 

[Anastar]

First of all, thank you for reading what I said Tres and again I apologize for any apparent disrespect but I saw no other way to bring the conversation back on track. Yes, it was a slap in the face - but it was only intended to wake you up rather than insult.

Yes, you and Ryu provided the courtesy of including the annotations on the article itself and I do appreciate that. Two of the links you provided do clarify that Cloud/Aerith is a canon pairing as well as Cloud/Tifa, so that is a HUGE help which I appreciate.

What I was wanting to address further was the fact that there are incorrect statements made in Ryu's article, such as his statement that the FTOIL page confirms that Cloud and Tifa had sex because of the statement that mutual feelings were exchanged without words. That is inaccurate because the captions on the FTOIL page refer specifically to the picture shown, and the HW scene picture is of scene 137 rather than scene 136.

That subject is not addressed in the provided links.

Furthermore, how many people will see those links? Most people wll rely on memory rather than referring back to the main article Since the article blatantly says that he FTOIL page confirms that Clerith is not a valid pairing and that Cloud and Tifa almost certainly had sex will have that memory of the article and won't bother looking at the original article to find the annotations.

Personally, I see nothing to debate here. It's quite plain and clear that Ryu's article contains inaccuracies. Nothing will be accomplished by taking it to the LTD thread.

The only thing that I see as debatable is the statement you made in your apology about Cloud and Tifa ending up together even though Cloud loves Aerith, too. I see that as highly debatable simply because I think the FTOIL page makes it clear that both pairing are optional. As a result, Cloud MAY end up with Tifa even though he also loves Aerith, but it's also just as ;possible that Cloud doesn't end up with Tifa.

But again, I see no point in debating this topic simply because the debates accomplish nothing. You and I agreed before that neither of us will change our minds.

What I would like to see is a change from stating it as canon fact that Cloud ends up with Tifa even though he also love Aerith to an acknowledgement that both pairings are optional.

But that would require discussing it with you and/or Ryu directly. I would be willing to discuss it with you guys in email IF YOU WANT TO - but from what you've said, I doubt that will happen. The invitation is open, however, if either and/or both of you change your mind.

As an added note, I do not think that EITHER Cloti or Clerith has been confirmed as canon. Although I see both as possible interpretations, I do not think SE intended either pairing to be anything more than optional to the player.

Thank you again for taking the time to listen, Tres.

Elena - Yes, I did read the rest of your post, and I will answer you in PM.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

What I would like to see is a change from stating it as canon fact that Cloud ends up with Tifa even though he also love Aerith to an acknowledgement that both pairings are optional.

Even if Ryu and I both suddenly believed that, and even if Lex and I hadn't decided on a moratorium on new LTD articles, that still would have never happened for the simple fact that we don't believe in changing the content of old articles on TLS.

When my original Dissidia plot analysis and predictions for Dissidia Duodecim articles became outdated, I didn't go back and change them. I made a new, more thorough more accurate analysis and let the originals stand as a record of what they were at the time.

Which brings me to wondering why you keep expressing dissatisfaction with those annotations. You keep saying "Most people will rely on memory rather than referring back to the main article. They won't bother looking at it again to find the annotations."

Yet you want more changes made to an article you say people won't be looking at anyway. Even as you paradoxically say this matter is an issue that needs addressing because people are still constantly referring back to that article in debates or to shut Clerith people down elsewhere on the Internet.

So, which is it? Are people constantly referring back to it or aren't they? Why are they more likely to see some changes to it than others (despite those others being right at the very top)?

What you're asking for is inconsistent and frankly makes no sense. Honestly, I'm also thoroughly uninterested in catering to someone's sensibilities when they refuse to be satisfied after reasonable attempts have been made.

This matter -- and this thread -- are now closed.