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[Flintlock]

I've just been busy the last few days, so sharing links has been easier than trying to think of something to write about it. Every post does have a little description, and the link generates a thumbnail and blurb, so it is clear what you're clicking on. Not really sure what the issue is here.

I have to disagree. If we don't add our own description to links, Facebook grabs what it thinks is the beginning of the article. Some websites are good at summarising their articles in sub-headers; others are not. Take this as an example:

Show me where on that picture the words "Yoshinori" and "Kitase" appear.

It hasn't just been the last few days, either. This example is from last week and it's actually for one of our own articles:

The URL hints at "trailer" but doesn't mention "gameplay", which is kind of the key point of that article. I get that you were sharing photos but I can't find another link to that article on our Facebook page.

I remember seeing more examples in the past but I'm sure I'd just be called pedantic if I went digging for them, so hopefully two will suffice.

 

[Pixel]

That last example was because I was just uploading the trailer on our own youtube channel, see the next post. And getting the stuff up and out fast was the key to getting it shared that day, and it worked.

Can I just say, you, and others have access to the page, and the ability to edit the posts. If you feel strongly enough about it feel free, but don't remove the link in the description.

 

[Flintlock]

I've tried to become less involved with the Facebook page because (a) I feel like I have enough TLS commitments already, and (b) we have other people who should be handling it (like Joe, our social media manager), and I don't want to encroach too much. I also don't think that "if you think it's bad, you do it" is a very helpful attitude to take. Sure, I can edit posts when I think they need it, but the whole reason I raised this issue here is so that I won't need to.

What do you mean by "the link in the description", though? Do you mean the actual "http" URL, or the clickable area below? I've highlighted it in yellow here:

Clicking anywhere in that area takes you to the article, so my opinion is that we don't need the URL as well. Do you disagree?

 

[Pixel]

You know, all you're proving here is why I have no interest in working with you on stuff. Yes, I see what you're saying, but you are being pedantic. I know what I'm doing with the facebook page.

 

[Lex]

Pixel Flint isn't being pedantic for the sake of being pedantic, he definitely has a point with the description stuff. It would be helpful to just make sure that the content is properly represented when it's posted. If you want to continue as you've been doing that's fine, I'll keep an eye out and add text or whatever when it needs to be done.

 

[AvecAloes]

I think Flint is just trying to give suggestions that could help improve the aesthetic of the posts as well as information they're giving. Yes, he's pedantic, we definitely know that much but he is raising some good points, and the last question he asked is something I'd like clarification on as well regarding the "link in the description", so that we're all clear on what you want us to leave intact.

Edit: ninja'd, off course

 

[Pixel]

I usually have to leave the link in the post, say if it's a video, or an article. In the case of videos, id rather people click the link than watch on facebook. Articles on TLS, if theres no image in the body of the page for FB to find, I have to upload one, so the link has to stay. I'd just rather have the link in all posts.

 

[Jason Tandro]

Constructive criticism is a good thing Pixel. Nobody here is your enemy and nobody here doubts the insane amount of effort you put into the Facebook page. Flint is making a rather harmless suggestion and you've gone immediately on the defensive.

Again, you offered loads of concrit on other projects and yet whenever somebody makes a suggestion about your work it seems like you take it rather personally. Trust me, it's not needed. I mean I get you work your ass off and maybe it's just exasperation, but trust me everybody here is trying to help. Again we all know what you've done for the site.

Relax man, this is not really something that anybody needs to get worked up over. :-)

 

[Geostigma]

You know, all you're proving here is why I have no interest in working with you on stuff. Yes, I see what you're saying, but you are being pedantic. I know what I'm doing with the facebook page.

This and your other responses to him are so uncalled for Pixel.

Not to mention what he's saying is legitimately right. Not to call you out but you said you know what your doing and what he suggested is pretty basic stuff.

Putting a self written summary/etc in the description above the link and thumbnail header is like the same thing as titling a video on youtube.

You wouldn't upload a video on YT and let it choose the title based on the first 20 seconds of the video would you? You'd want a bit of control over that right?

You've called for quality content with some professionalism for the different social media branches and content of TLS but not doing something so basic is not quality and getting so defensive at the very suggestion of it is not professional at all.

 

[Pixel]

Do you have any idea how busy I am? I have christmas orders to do, but that announcement hit, and since then, every spare second I've had has been either looking for shit to post to drive engagement and followers, or trying to create content for youtube. All of that effort is paying off. I did that.

Even now, I'm planning 3 videos and still keeping an eye out for stuff to post.

Excuse me if I feel like just throwing a link up here and there for speed.

 

[Geostigma]

The amount of work you willingly chose to take on is not an excuse to treat Flint (or anyone else in the past) the way you did. This isn't the first time you have reacted this way either.

No one discredited your contributions. Just don't hurl insults at people making proper observations.

 

[Pixel]

Its a non issue that was addressed, then dragged out, and would have been dragged out further. If you go on the facebook page and look through everything that's been posted, most of it is being done fine. Pedantry just gets under my skin to the point where I have to walk away from it, especially if I have to take time away from what I should be doing to address it.

The point is valid, but there are reasons for a few things being posted being posted the way they have been. The post with the link to the trailer for example, Im guessing Ive posted the link, and the blurb for the article popped up, but no picture appeared, so I grabbed some screenshots, which got rid of the text preview, posted it, moved on to whatever else I was doing.

The SE blog one, I just threw up there, saw it had a bit of preview text, post, move on.

Non issue resolved

I set asside time tonight to work on the audiobook, which got pushed aside for other stuff. Now im wasting that time on this.

 

[trash panda]

I can feel Pixel on having lots of stuff to do. Even I offered to help with the FB page and I haven't done a thing - not a lick. Been working Sunday-Friday 12 hour shifts. Cba to even go on FB lately. I commend him for finding the time to keep up with it. We all have lives outside of here and pressure can sometimes get the better of anyone.

To my knowledge there are a few people with access to the FB page and anyone can edit his posts. I personally would appreciate Pixel's attention to audiobooks or art. I think the way he's been throwing stuff up there is just fine especially since Lex has mentioned that he's willing to add text where he feels it's necessary. Problem solved?

Maybe we could talk to Joe and see if he could handle the FB page since he's the Social Media guy?

EDIT: You know what...I'm just throwing this out there. We do have a member here who is really dedicated to the site. Flare's willing to help me with anything when I ask her and she devotes a lot of time to the site, even if she's just posting. Not trying to volunteer her here but just...if we need some "spreading out" to do with site tasks, I think she's an awesome nominee.
(Not to put you on the spot, Flare but it's true). Awesome Flare is awesome.

 

[Flare]

EDIT: You know what...I'm just throwing this out there. We do have a member here who is really dedicated to the site. Flare's willing to help me with anything when I ask her and she devotes a lot of time to the site, even if she's just posting. Not trying to volunteer her here but just...if we need some "spreading out" to do with site tasks, I think she's an awesome nominee.
(Not to put you on the spot, Flare but it's true). Awesome Flare is awesome.

I totally forget to reply to this yesterday.
Wow, this is super surprising to me and makes me feel honored. Thank you, Howl!

I just wanna say, even if I was seriously considered to help out, I honestly can't at the moment. My plate's already too full for the next month, so I couldn't do anything right now. But in the future when I have a lot more time and people want me to help, I'll probably accept.
No biggie on my part either, so if nothing more is ever said about me here on this thread, no problem, I'm fine with it.

Also, awesome Howl is awesome.

 

[Flintlock]

 

[Pixel]

I'll post this later. 8-10pm EST seems to be the best time for catching people online with sharable stuff. + I just posted about the FF7 1.05 update

 

[Flintlock]

Sounds good to me. Here's the link, I forgot to add it before.