Favorite FFIV Girl?

[Kain Strife]

Now, a random topic I know, but I've been trying to brainstorm shorts for Final Fantasy, for the future when I finish the ones I have planned. Oddly enough, Most of the random ideas that came out featured IV.

One of the ideas I have won't really work unless people (generally) Have the same idea.

Now, the girls are.... Actually, I guess it's just Rosa and Rydia mostly, unless you like Parom or Palom (don't remember which was girl). Also, I'm going with FFIV, not After Years.

Personally, I thought Rosa was kinda dull, and really liked Rydia myself, especially when she rejoined the party...

 

[null]

Well, I like Rosa and Rydia.

As a character: Rydia. I think her story and powers are more interesting. Rosa is OK but generic, we've seen her type a million times before.

As a party member: Rosa. If I'm down to two characters in a boss fight, one of them better be her.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Well, I like Rosa and Rydia.

As a character: Rydia. I think her story and powers are more interesting. Rosa is OK but generic, we've seen her type a million times before.

As a party member: Rosa. If I'm down to two characters in a boss fight, one of them better be her.

^. Of course, by now we've seen Rydia a thousand times before too, thanks to so many RPGs ripping off Final Fantasy, but at the time it was original.

Oh, and Porom is the girl. Though some translations have them written Parom (boy) and Polom (girl), which doesn't help for confusion. Nor does the fact that "l" and "r" are the same sound in Japanese.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

I honestly cannot pick. I love both Rosa and Rydia. Both are strong characters, beautiful and intelligent. Rydia is more fun, but Rosa is very endearing, so for me, neither character comes out on top.

...I think I'll pass the obvious sexual connotation that brings. xD

And, yes, Porom is the girl. She's entertaining in the game, kicking her brother around.

 

[Kain Strife]

Anyways, my point was, I thought it'd be at least semi funny if I spoof when Rydia rejoins the party as a fully grown beautiful woman, and Cecil turns to Rosa and tells her He needs to leave her for completely unrelated reasons....

Still not sure if that'll fly.... I know it's way out of character for Cecil, but I thought it'd be a bit humorous. Anyways, that was my thoughts. After hearing that, does anyone think it's too abstract?

 

[Dawnbreaker]

Completely OOC for Cecil...but what the hell? Go for it. If it's fun who cares if it's not within his character?

 

[Kain Strife]

True, I was just wondering mostly if Rydia was a cool enough or attractive enough character... I thought so, Rydia rejoined my team, and I was all: Now THOSE, are some hot pixels. lol, I just remember how awesome it was when she came back.

So yeah, I'll probably go through with it some time.

 

[Celes Chere]

Everyone seems to like Rydia most, but I really, really adore Rosa. I always have ever since I first played the game. I love that's she's gorgeous and devoted to Cecil, but can still fight for herself and speak for herself she's just awesome. I love her. ;3;

 

[Kain Strife]

Maybe it's just me, but I found her plain boring.... Maybe because there was no development to their relationship.... They just already were.... I would've liked some blossoming between them... I guess thats one of the things I liked about future FF installment's Plots.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

There was...Cecil was rejecting Rosa's affection and support until she is kidnapped and he is reunited with her, making him realize how much she meant to him. Later on when he tries to leave her behind to keep her safe she defies him and shows him what they face, they face together. I thought it pretty cute, actually. Not every relationship has to be fraught with lies, betrayal and abuse...though I admit those are more entertaining to read/etc.

 

[Kain Strife]

Well, the first thing I thought was leaning more towards his Dark Knighthood, and his personal issues in general. ALthough I suppose I can recognize those aspects now.... They just didn't really stand out to me.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

They didn't stand out because Square-enix did a shit job of showcasing them. It wasn't until I did some review of the game to understand it for some fanfics that I even understood it then. I do like that their relationship wasn't all flames, death and blood though. More representative of real, good relationships.

 

[Kain Strife]

Very true, they didn't really have problems... Just grew closer together, as it should be in real life.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

The biggest problem was his own insecurity and the love triangle with Kain, which was kind of glossed over too. Fuck you, Square!

 

[Kain Strife]

No, I noticed Kain's Jealousy towards their relationship.... was there actually a triangle though? I mean, did Rosa like Kain?

 

[Ⓐaron]

I have read claims that Rosa had previous involvement with Kain before she became involved with Cecil according to Japanese source materials that never got translated to English, but I am not certain how reliable those are. One would think that if that were actually in the case, it would've been alluded to in the DS remake.

 

[null]

^. Of course, by now we've seen Rydia a thousand times before too, thanks to so many RPGs ripping off Final Fantasy, but at the time it was original.

This is also true.

However, if I was told to choose between them in sixty seconds at an interview while getting a blow job with a gun to my head... well.

 

[Ryushikaze]

The biggest problem was his own insecurity and the love triangle with Kain, which was kind of glossed over too. Fuck you, Square!

It was 1990, it was one of the most storied RPGs to come out at that point. I'ma cut them some slack.

No, I noticed Kain's Jealousy towards their relationship.... was there actually a triangle though? I mean, did Rosa like Kain?

Nope. The Love Triangle was of the two men both wanting her, not her wanting both.

I have read claims that Rosa had previous involvement with Kain before she became involved with Cecil according to Japanese source materials that never got translated to English, but I am not certain how reliable those are. One would think that if that were actually in the case, it would've been alluded to in the DS remake.

As far as I can find, this is entirely bullshit. It's not mentioned in the Promo sourcebook and no mention of the claim actually lists a source.

Also, no love for Yang's wife?

For my vote, Rosa. Best Archer in a militarized nation, learned white magic just so she could be even more useful in combat.

I mean, one of this woman's childhood dreams (at least as far as the Promo book, which is of questionable accuracy in some regards) was to fight on the field of battle with the man she loves. That's kinda metal.

 

[Kobato]

A draw between Rosa and Rydia c:

Rydia because she's brave, kind, strong- willed and doesn't really mope. She's been through shit, but she moves on and focuses on the future c:

Rosa because, she's a kind girl and she helps out Rydia with her fears, she risks her own life when she's worried about Cecil after the village of mist has been burned down, and even though Kain is threating to murder Cecil and the others, she still believes that he's a kind hearted man inside.

I think she gets alot of unnecessary hate because you have to save her which " makes her a weak damsel in distress. " But really, you have to save Aerith, you have to save Rinoa at least five times, you have to save Garnet from her greedy psycho mum who wants to axe her off because of shiny gems, and you have to save Yuna at least twice. Once from the Al Bhed and again from creepy Seymour's wedding.

soooo why does Rosa get all the hate, when most of the FF females have that time when they need saving. Though sometimes the FF males need saving too. If it wasn't for Tifa, Cloud would be mentally lost forever for a example. So yeah. Rosa is the 90's version of Serah I reckon. Both of them are REALLY nice girls and they both get hate for not good enough reasons.

 

[Lumina]

Definitely Rydia. And the Maenads (Or whatever the fuck their name were)

 

[Dawnbreaker]

Meanads is correct and yeah, they were very interesting. I especially like learning more about them (or her, or it, whatever).

Also, it's a shame that the storyline of Kain and Rosa having a thing before Cecil hasn't been confirmed. It makes the story that much more entertaining. I see a lot of it in fanfiction (used it myself) but haven't heard it completely confirmed anywhere, either.

 

[null]

It was 1990, it was one of the most storied RPGs to come out at that point. I'ma cut them some slack.

Agreed. I think we sometimes forget to judge games against their peers. (And that the technology of the time precluded large, complex stories. There just wasn't enough room.) FF4 was easily heads and shoulders better and more polished than the other console RPGs of that year.

Anyway, most of my desire to see the story expanded was murdered with a sledgehammer by The After Years.

As far as the love triangle goes... I think the whole point was to motivate Kain's character development and in that regard it served its purpose. Although I wouldn't have a problem with a bit of competition. Female characters being written entirely around and/or emotionally gift wrapped to the hero is a personal pet peeve of mine.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Agreed. I think we sometimes forget to judge games against their peers. (And that the technology of the time precluded large, complex stories. There just wasn't enough room.) FF4 was easily heads and shoulders better and more polished than the other console RPGs of that year.

Well, there was room, you just had to know how to use it, and that took several years for anyone to figure out, including Nintendo who made the system.

As far as the love triangle goes... I think the whole point was to motivate Kain's character development and in that regard it served its purpose.

I really don't think the idea of it as a 'Love Triangle' was the intention, though yeah, bang on about why- I think part of the idea was that it was a triangle in Kain's head only.
He is competing with Cecil for Rosa and neither is aware that he was because he never said anything because he's Kain and it would be unseemly to act jealous and yadda yadda.

Although I wouldn't have a problem with a bit of competition. Female characters being written entirely around and/or emotionally gift wrapped to the hero is a personal pet peeve of mine.

I don't think she was 'gift wrapped' for Cecil, but she was one of the few characters without a major emotional struggle of her own, so she kept helping other people with theirs, Cecil, Rydia, even Kain.

As for hating on Rosa for getting captured- she got captured after you, the main character, got your ass handed to you by your mind controlled/traitor best friend and the main villain comes in to help.
She has to be rescued once from a guy you can't even beat 4 on 1, so, yeah.

 

[Rapunzel]

I love Rydia and all, but Rosa is my favorite. I love her devotion to Cecil, and she's my favorite to use in battle. I really like white mages, plus she can fight with a bow, too.

I think Rydia has a more interesting story, but I find Rosa as a character to be more appealing.

 

[fear]

It's hard to choose between Rydia and Rosa... haha