FF12 Hero

[DrakeClawfang]

I was thinking about this for my Dissidia fanfic, and want to know what you guys think. Who would represent the side of Cosmos for FF12 and oppose Gabranth, hypothetically?

I'm inclined to say Ashe. IMO, FF12's story centered on her and her journey and she was the protagonist of the game. And she has the personal connection to Gabranth, as he killed her father and doomed her kingdom to Imperial rule, forcing her into hiding. And let's face it, the hero roster of Dissidia is a meat market, another female joining them would be a welcome addition. Ashe also has the trademark weapon (Treaty Blade/Sword of Kings, either one) that the heroes of the Sony era all have.

However, Basch is a serious contender to oppose Gabranth too. FF12 also features the story of Basch's shame and redemption, and exposing the truth behind the crime Gabranth framed him for. And of course, they're brothers, but that may not be a good thing - between Kuja and Zidane, Cecil and Golbez and Tidus and Jecht, maybe a four hero-villain pair of relatives would be overdoing it. But still, though you can debate if Basch is the hero of FF12 or not, his connection to Gabranth is possibly the strongest depending on your point of view.

And then there's Vaan. He has a connection to Gabranth, Gabranth killed Reks. But that's nowhere close to the struggles Gabranth has with Ashe and Basch. Vaan is also the "official" protagonist of FF12, but who really thinks that was the case? Besides him, Balthier, Fran and Penelo, say what you will, good or bad, about them, but none of them were really the protagonists. Balthier was awesome, but the story wasn't really centered on him. And he doesn't have a connection to Gabranth, nor do Fran or Penelo.

So, who do you think is best suited to oppose Gabranth as FF12's hero?

 

[DrakeClawfang]

What a riveting discussion I started....><

 

[Makoeyes987]

If they chose Gabranth, then more than likely, Basch would be the representative hero. If they had chosen maybe Dr. Cid, or Vayne Solidor, I'd say Ashe would be a more likely contender, but they didn't.

I'd say Vaan would be possible but probably the last choice given Basch, and Ashe as contenders.

 

[XwingsofaresX]

absolutely, while i love ashe as much as the next guy, Basch has the deeper relationship with Gabranth (refresh my memory, theyre brothers, right?) which is why the heroes fight their respective villains.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

Just another thing to consider - the age bracket of Dissidia's heroes. Cloud's the oldest and he's what, 22? The Dissidia cast are in their late teens, or very early 20s, so at 19 Ashe would fit in perfectly. Basch is 36, he'd be a bit out of place. :p

 

[XwingsofaresX]

Just another thing to consider - the age bracket of Dissidia's heroes. Cloud's the oldest and he's what, 22? The Dissidia cast are in their late teens, or very early 20s, so at 19 Ashe would fit in perfectly. Basch is 36, he'd be a bit out of place. :p

ah, youre right. im confused now...

 

[Neutron Ronnie]

I don't think age should be pulled into it, but that's just me. However, I read that age was one of the reasons that Basch wasn't made the main character, because they figured he wouldn't be as popular as a teenage pretty-boy.

Which is a pity, because I thought Basch had more character than Vaan did.

Like Tyrant said, if Vayne had been the main villain, Ashe would've been the logical counterpart; but if it's Gabranth, then it's gotta be Basch... Srsly, though, the jump from one to two (and to a lesser degree, from two to three) pairs of relatives would be more of an issue than the jump from three to four.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

I went for Ashe in the fic.

A couple reasons, the first being she's in the right age bracket and gives more girl power to the good guys. But also, and this was a sealer, she just has a lot more antagonism with Gabranth IMO. Basch never seemed to hate Gabranth or bear any real malice to him, and with the scene I'd written for Gabranth and the FF12 hero, I couldn't see Basch acting in-character with what I had for him. Ashe on the other hand is a lot more....how to put this, angry, vengeful? Bitchy?

And also, I had a good Ashe dialogue snippet that really suited the story I wanted Gabranth to quote. So yeah, Ashe is in, but Basch is mentioned a lot in the scene where she confronts Gabranth. "Basch didn't kill you, I won't be so merciful, blah blah".

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I agree with Ashe being FFXII's hero, but if I had to have a second place it'd have Vaan in it. Mostly just because we follow him from the beginning, even though Ashe is the major catalyst for change in his journey (sort of like how most FF heroes have one. Iunno.)

 

[Tennyo]

The hero and villain chosen from each game for Dissidia are the ones with the greatest connection. It's why Jecht was chosen over Seymour for X, even though most people assume that Seymour would be it since he was the more evil of the two. If Seymour had been chosen then the staff would have chosen Yuna, but can you imagine her in a fighting game as her FFX self? Maybe in her X-2 outfit, but I wonder if that would have fit.

But either way Tidus was chosen and hence the villain was Jecht.

A hero representing XII would have to be Basche. If it were to be Ashe then I would say that they could have chosen maybe Vayne. Or If Dr. Cid then Balthier.

Also in Dissidia Cecil is all, "Golbez I luvs joo my brother!" while Golbez is all, "STFU Imma gonna kick your ass now." So they don't HAVE to hate each other.

 

[Splintered]

Ashe always struck me as the main character. Bash has deeper ties with Gabranth, but at the same time Gabranth never compelled Bash to do anything, only loyalty and serving Ashe (and Larsa now) made him fight. Having Ashe without Bash... it will be like having a much cooler Steiner without Garnet. It just doesn't feel right.

But I guess it wouldn't make sense to have anything other than Bash and Gabranth face each other off. Ashe's villain is Vayne, Balthier's is Cid.