FFVII Remake Preview Thread

Claymore

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Capturing all the various previews that will be coming out today. Feel free to post what you find so that we can catch 'em all!


Final Fantasy 7 Remake hands-on: 7 things to know from hours of play
VG24/7
https://www.vg247.com/2020/03/02/final-fantasy-7-remake-hands-on-preview/


So Far, Final Fantasy VII Remake Is An Astounding Recreation Of A Revered Classic
God Is A Geek
https://www.godisageek.com/2020/03/final-fantasy-vii-remake-hands-on-preview-three-hours-of-play/


Final Fantasy VII Remake's Modern Combat Thrills, But Level Design Feels Stuck In The Past
Push Square
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/202...ills_but_level_design_feels_stuck_in_the_past


Giving New Life(stream) To A Beloved Classic
Press Start
https://press-start.com.au/previews...w-giving-new-lifestream-to-a-beloved-classic/


Playable Demo Bombing Mission Full Walkthrough
Playstation Access


Exploring Midgar
Easy Allies


First 3 Hours, Aerith And Tifa Combat, And More...
GameSpot
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-7-remake-preview-first-3-hours-aerit/1100-6474246/


We Played Final Fantasy VII For 4 Hours - And It's Awesome!!
GameXplain


Here Are All The New Details We Gleaned From Final Fantasy 7 Remake's Latest Playable Showing
Eurogamer
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...nal-fantasy-7-remakes-latest-playable-showing


Dreams Do Come True
PowerUp!
https://powerup-gaming.com/2020/03/02/final-fantasy-7-remake-preview-dreams-do-come-true/
 
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Eerie

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I remember I used to read IGN forums for DAOC lmao. I never bothered to check them for anything else.
 
Shademp

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Maximillian Dood's spoiler-filled recollection of chapter 2 serves to make me more and more concerned that...
...we are seeing a Sephiroth who travelled back in time from the post-AC Compilation timeline and who is now fucking shit up and speaking to Cloud accordingly. I really, really hope the writing is just being meta right now and that this isn't the direction they are going with.

Also feeling sorry for Ite because WOW the level of in-your-face Sephiroth appearances are just to the point of parody.
 
Lex

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In fairness Shad that is a pretty out there theory but it's pretty fun!

While some things may have been changed or seem like retcons, I haven't actually seen or heard anything that alters the main story in a way that isn't totally plausible in the original. For example (fairly large spoilers from the demo, press footage or impressions):

Shinra being responsible for the large scale destruction of Mako Reactor No.1. I kind of agree that this feels like a retcon, but is it inconceivable that this could have happened in the original? I don't think so. At the same time, I don't agree with Max's assessment from his stream where he kind of uses Jessie's lines etc to justify it as "absolutely not being a retcon". The OG never lets you think Shinra was responsible and I don't think that was the intention either, but there's definitely room in the OG for what happens in the remake IMO.

Also (spoiler from chapter 2 flashback):

Sephiroth killing Cloud's mother directly - the way this is described idk if it's Sephiroth taunting Cloud or if it's something Cloud actually sees in his flashback. But regardless, if that DID happen, it's a retcon I can live with (though it doesn't make a lot of sense since Cloud was a flea on Sephiroth's radar at that point). I think it's more likely Cloud's warped memory attributing his mother's death to Sephiroth (because her death is Sephiroth's fault) or it's Sephiroth just using his influence to fuck with Cloud's mind. And actually thinking about it, even if it did actually happen that way it wouldn't be a retcon, because there's nothing in the OG that discounts Sephiroth hopping into every house and chopping them all up before he sets the town on fire :cloudshrug:

That's my take anyway.
 
Makoeyes987

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The depiction of Shinra "fixing" AVALANCHE's attempt at bombing the reactor was certainly never shown in the OG. Through Jessie's line there exists an ambiguity and I always wondered when hearing it what she meant by it, like if it was bigger than it was supposed to be, and if that meant she over-performed with her bomb making skills or something went wrong. But there's a strange ambiguity that was left there, and the depiction in the Remake kinda fills that ambiguity now with a change of it's own. I pretty much agree that it's a retcon but it's a retcon that simply fills an ambiguity that was already present in the OG, and I don't mind it, given what it's purpose is. Which is Propping up President Shinra as a far more cold, calculating and cruel antagonist who's here to play a larger role.

Essentially, the Sephiroth Cloud is seeing here is a projection of Cloud's own mind. A direct result of Cloud's fractured consciousness and the Jenova cells within him. However, the influence of Sephiroth over Cloud's mind is happening much sooner and directly here, which is not surprising given what we saw in the trailers for the Remake. Cloud is visually and audibly seeing the Nibelheim Massacre, in ultra high def. However, this supped up flashback is from Cloud's false perspective that originally belonged to Zack. Furthermore, it's now being mixed with Cloud's own traumatic memories and creating a mish-mash of illusion and real pain. Cloud may have actually witnessed Sephiroth going around town, house-to-house, killing all the inhabitants one by one with his sword, while the village burned around them. We see Sephiroth murder Tifa's father. It's not unlikely or hard to believe he did the same to Cloud as well. However, as Cloud was seen reaching for his mother, it was probably from the ground as he was injured and unable to save her.

And that's what Sephiroth's illusion taunts Cloud about. That he was unable to save his village and mother. Even in the OG, Cloud felt the pain and loss of being unable to save his town from Sephiroth. And now the Remake is throwing in the context of Cloud being unable to save his mother. A further scar and source of guilt at being unable to save her. However, he actually thinks he did kill Sephiroth. Which, in a sense he did. But he doesn't know that or the context of how it happened. So now Cloud is just merely confused and unable to grasp why Sephiroth is standing before him again. Which Sephiroth plays to his advantage. Sephiroth's will is actively feeding the hallucinations and mental anguish Cloud is feeling. And reinforcing the false reality Cloud believes.

So yeah, I don't see how any of that indicates anything outside of the realm of what we know happens within VII. The Remake is merely fleshing out and uniquely depicting the same mental manipulation that happened before. In a much more direct and interesting way.[/quote]
 
The Twilight Mexican

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Makoeyes987 said:
The Remake is merely fleshing out and uniquely depicting the same mental manipulation that happened before. In a much more direct and interesting way.
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Until we fully see it in action, I'm not sure that the more direct way is necessarily more interesting, though. For better or worse, the route they're going right now is going to give the impression that all of Cloud's issues are because Sephiroth is screwing with him -- until that script is flipped, of course, and we learn that the boy was tweaked before Seph began taunting him.

Maybe that will be better, maybe not. It's a very different approach, though, from what we saw in the original, where we got the impression from early on that something wasn't quite right with Cloud himself.
 
Makoeyes987

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The Twilight Mexican said:
Until we fully see it in action, I'm not sure that the more direct way is necessarily more interesting, though.

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Maybe that will be better, maybe not. It's a very different approach, though, from what we saw in the original, where we got the impression from early on that something wasn't quite right with Cloud himself.
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Well that's fair. We don't know for sure, however I'm speaking optimistically. I don't mind the change, in fact I welcome it.

The Remake is re-framing Sephiroth's villain role within the story. In the OG, he was primarily The ominous Big-Bad, with his Nemesis role completely secondary.

Now his role of Nemesis is right next to him being the Big-Bad. The OG's way essentially allowed Sephiroth to be a mysterious, unknown force that loomed and was hidden until the climax. But this reduces his active role as a character. Now that he's a more present and active participant in the story, he has more characterization and screentime to flesh him and Cloud out. But that comes at the expense of him being less hidden and the story unfolding in the way it did in the OG.
 
Erotic Materia

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Shademp said:
Maximillian Dood's spoiler-filled recollection of chapter 2 serves to make me more and more concerned that...
...we are seeing a Sephiroth who travelled back in time from the post-AC Compilation timeline and who is now fucking shit up and speaking to Cloud accordingly. I really, really hope the writing is just being meta right now and that this isn't the direction they are going with.

Also feeling sorry for Ite because WOW the level of in-your-face Sephiroth appearances are just to the point of parody.
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I haven't played the leak (or watched them), but I started watching Max Dood's spoiler video. Some SUPER good stuff that I'm excited to experience, but I had to admit to myself that I couldn't keep listening. I have to force myself to wait.:closedmonster:
 
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