Is it ever going to happen?

[Shizuka]

Hi, I know there's been rumours for like ever about FFVII remake and I know A LOT of people want it to be done but does anyone actually think it will be done?

Also if they decide rather than a remake but a FFVII-2. How will they go about it? I mean bringing Sephiroth back (I'm the biggest fan of him and is my favourite character) but even I don't want to see him return, though would be interesting to see if he could have redemption though don't see possible. So leave him stamping his feat in the lifestream.

So Cloud needs a new enemy. But who? And it can't really be Genesis can it? As he wants to protect the planet. Though why he didn't think helping Cloud & Co from the meteor and the second reunion is beyond me...

But then again I can't help thinking about Sephiroth's last line in ACC but SE enough either leave him dead, turn good (which would be odd) or let him win (again not something I want)

 

[Zealkin]

Only when they finish Versus...

 

[Alex Strife]

In my opinion, making a remake is a no-brainer. They may get attacked by rabid fans, if the game is "not good enough" but they'd make A LOT of money.

So I think they WILL do it. At some point. But it's Square we're talking about so you never know.

 

[Octo]

The way they keep mentioning it all the time like for no reason: 'oh we won't be doing a remake, it'll take 5000 years bla blah blah' they certainly want to keep people interested in the possiblity. Plus they seem to like remaking shit and porting shit more than making new games at the moment...

So who knows?

As for FFVII-2 I don't think they can really go anywhere with the story now. AC already diluted things considerably, and even with a 'new' antagonist it would probably be quite boring imo.

What I would be interested in is a game where we get to see what the other characters have been up to in the time between the end of FFVII and the end of DoC, as Cid, Red, Barret didn't get much of a look in. But they won't do that, because all they want to do and all they think people want is Cloud Strife looking moody on a motorcycle.

 

[Shizuka]

In my opinion, making a remake is a no-brainer. They may get attacked by rabid fans, if the game is "not good enough" but they'd make A LOT of money.

So I think they WILL do it. At some point. But it's Square we're talking about so you never know.

Thank you I do think they will do something with FFVII my point really was what and how? Maybe they will have a cross over of FFX. Can you imagine "the return of Sin?" lol

The way they keep mentioning it all the time like for no reason: 'oh we won't be doing a remake, it'll take 5000 years bla blah blah' they certainly want to keep people interested in the possiblity. Plus they seem to like remaking shit and porting shit more than making new games at the moment...

So who knows?

As for FFVII-2 I don't think they can really go anywhere with the story now. AC already diluted things considerably, and even with a 'new' antagonist it would probably be quite boring imo.

What I would be interested in is a game where we get to see what the other characters have been up to in the time between the end of FFVII and the end of DoC, as Cid, Red, Barret didn't get much of a look in. But they won't do that, because all they want to do and all they think people want is Cloud Strife looking moody on a motorcycle.

Again I agree with you Octo and think you. There's no way the wont use Cloud just for the reasons that you said and I'm thinking they wouldn't pass up another zillionth opportunity to use Sephiroth yet again...

 

[Max Payne]

It's just their fall back concept.

They release all of this new crap under the premise that "Hey if people keep buying our games regardless of their quality we can still keep them interested with the possibility of a remake of FF7".

If anything they're robbing themselves of revenue by not making it.

 

[Makoeyes987]

They'd rather give us PSP ports of 4+ year old DS remakes and HD re-re-releases of games everyone and their mother have played before, than actually work on something new in a timely manner or remake the game everyone has been demanding for almost 5 years.

S-E makes about as much sense as Cleverbot on a bad day.

....Wait, that's wrong. I shouldn't insult Cleverbot like that. How cold of me.

 

[Max Payne]

They'd rather give us PSP ports of 4+ year old DS remakes and HD re-re-releases of games everyone and their mother have played before, than actually work on something new in a timely manner or remake the game everyone has been demanding for almost 5 years.

S-E makes about as much sense as Cleverbot on a bad day.

....Wait, that's wrong. I shouldn't insult Cleverbot like that. How cold of me.

Dude it's been a lot longer than five years.

Hell some people were clamoring for a remake not long after FF9.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Yeah, you're right. I was just thinking of the years off the top of my head.

Just solidifies my point further. I'm just getting fed up with them. I swear, if S-E didn't absorb Eidos when they did, they'd be completely in the shitter.

Eidos is literally the one life buoy keeping the entire company's head above water. In terms of actual S-E properties, their last big one was....FFXIII-2, if I recall correctly. They had KH3D coming but that's about it. They seriously just aren't giving a fuck in terms of content or even making the fans THINK they're happy.

The PSP re-release of FFIII was just like a slap to the face. With a wet fish.

 

[Max Payne]

Eidos really is the only company helping them stay afloat.

As far as S-E themselves goes their actual product output has been pathetic, they've been living off of merchandising ridiculous crap like selling perfume that smells like cloud's ass crack.

 

[Lex]

Eidos really is the only company helping them stay afloat.

This. Deus Ex comes to mind. I love that game.

 

[looneymoon]

At this point, I would prefer a FF4DS-esque remake to something that looks like FF7AC:The Game.

It worked for FFX but generally I'm really put off by the way SE renders their characters :/

 

[Elisa Maza]

No.

Making a new game, even if it's a remake with these graphics is "too much work" for SE and requires a lot of money. They have to design new environments, new fighting system that will include the materia and other features, while not being turn-based, whole new models, etc...

Why do this when an already existing game, which NO work OR expenses are required for, continues to sell well? Not to mention that with this "myth" that surrounds FF7, SE can pull out mediocre or even shitty games and have them sell just because it has the FFVII logo on.

They are doing what a company that looks out for her profit: gain the biggest amount of money with the minimum expenses. And it's worked fine so far. Why put themselves under pressure and do work for something that sells fine as it is?

It's double the win for them: not only they get money with little expenses for an already existing game, but they get even more by putting little effort into spin-offs.

Fanbase be damned.

 

[Masamune]

Squenix are waiting until they develop an engine that will give the precise definition to Cloud & Sephiroth's hair. Until such time, it's simply not practical.

 

[Demona]

Thank you I do think they will do something with FFVII my point really was what and how? Maybe they will have a cross over of FFX. Can you imagine "the return of Sin?" lol

I can't imagine the return of Sin, but I can probably imagine my face if such a travesty ever came to pass.

I think that Square Enix has been percolating in its own excessive attempts to both please fans but do so with as little effort involved possible. The end result is the FF7 canon and fandom looking a little like a Greek Hero marinating in his own vomit after copious attempts to relive the glory days by... doing things that actually completely miss the point of said glory days. Somebody please put a sword in the old guy's hand again and point him in the direction of the ravening hoard.

Yeah I can get kind of caustic sorry

Thing is, the existing stories and characters of FF7 (and 4 and 9, which are the only others I've played) are so amazing as is, I'm not sure why they don't simply optimise gameplay and focus on enhancing the existing story. I'm guessing that voice acting is inevitable by this point, and if they find reasonable translators (who actually know the story and context instead of being pulled off the street and pity-fed a job). Why not the butt-ton of manga scanlators and anime subtitlers who do excellent work? And if they get good actors, that would be bloody amazing. I mean, they've proven that they can make pretty things, and they've proven they can write good stories--why can't they do both? Especially since the story already exists, damn them.

Regarding an FF7-2, I'm going to agree with a couple of other folks here and say it's quite unfeasible. But. In the event they do, if they bring Sephiroth back, I will be furious. From the trajectory the story in FF7 is going, from what I remember of Advent Children when I was forced to watch it before having ever played FF7 and from what I have gleaned of basic storytelling, it would be the absolute worst decision and an attempt to cater to fans' needs while simultaneously pissing off... well, me, anyway.

That said, I'm kind of indifferent to Sephiroth's long, luxurious locks and see him less as this broody, misunderstood anti-hero than a hilarious polygonal figure on my high-def television that expresses amusement and crazy with sporadic spurts of "HA HA HA HA" which isn't all that out of the ordinary REALLY. So it's not my loss, I guess.

So yes, Cloud needs a new enemy. The only thing I know about Genesis is that he has the worst voice actor and the worst line and the worst delivery of a line by a video game voice actor I've had the displeasure to witness Evar. If I have to play a(nother?) game with him in it I will scream. I dunno. I think that FF7 ended on a good note, as far as storytelling goes, and that if new enemies keep showing up, it will probably end up very Dragonball Z-esque, where the main party gets powerful enough to start being able to annihilate entire planets with a wet fart.

 

[wayfarer]

As far as SE being only out to make money goes, they're really not succeeding at that either. Deus Ex: Human Revolutions, a disparate purchased franchise, was about the only release that made a considerable amount of money last year. I can't imagine Square's making much money on all of these ports, and I'm sure they've already sunk a fortune on Versus XIII. Now, as far as X-VII crossovers go, I know there's an implied connection between the two universes, but I was always confused with how that worked because X on it's own involved time travel and such. I never finished X, I got stuck and never went back. But I remember Tidus comes from an almost utopian technologically superior civilization and Yuna and the others are from a timeline full of mysticism, conservative use of any form of mechanical technology, and I believe most of the world's been sunk so it's just a bunch of tiny islands now. I can't remember if Yuna's timeline's in the past or the future. Anyway, the whole point of this exposition was, where does the FFVII timeline fit into this? I know that there's a character named Shinra in X-2 who deliberately sets up the idea......

 

[Makoeyes987]

FFX does not involve time travel...

I think you need to actually finish FFX before you try to dissect/discuss its world scenario or how it would or would not work in connection to FFVII. Because you have the whole view of its story backwards. FFX and X-2 are not time travel stories. I think you're just hung up on the beginning of the game or something.

 

[wayfarer]

Well all I know is Tidus is in a metropolis and then all of a sudden he's in a group of small island nations after Sin attacks that he is not at all familiar with that's technologically inferior, but obviously makes up for it with magic and shit. Story conventions lead me to assume it's time travel, but I'll obviously take your word for it having not finished it.


http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/26/square-enix-reveals-conditions-for-final-fantasy-vii-remake

Strange I didn't see this on the news feed, but this is pretty relevant. This is a far more stern response than I think they've ever given, which to me is solidifying the fact that I'm not going to be playing FFVII in HD till i'm probably out of college/later. On the flip side, this would seem to be more in favor of a new compilation title, which would give me something nice to be disappointed by in a couple years. "Make a title better than FFVII?" Tall order, especially since SE's been in the shitter lately. Hopefully XIII-2 and Deus Ex are signaling a rise in quality that we'll see pay off in Versus :/

 

[Lord Noctis]

Hopefully XIII-2 and Deus Ex are signaling a rise in quality that we'll see pay off in Versus :/

Square Enix is not responsible for that game, and its quality in no way reflects on SE abilities.

 

[wayfarer]

Square Enix is not responsible for that game, and its quality in no way reflects on SE abilities.

Whatever, it was still released under their banner. Regardless how large their hand was in making it, it was imo their most successful property released recently, receiving critical fanfare and sold pretty well. At least they released something that wasn't shit! The fact that their best title as of late was their's in name only is only further accenting how down the drain SE has gotten. Tbh, Agni's Philosophy did little to impress either. I enjoyed the obvious middle eastern influence, and thought it was a really nice way to apply a contemporary, relevant aesthetic to the slowly exhausted formula that is the FF universe(s). Not meant to be overly negative, but what I'm getting at is we've seen it all before. Flashy fight scene, breathtaking visuals, crisp envirorenment. Final Fantasy's slowly becoming a very laughable property, "derp is that final fantasy forty six?" yes, the fact that it was an in-game video is very impressive, proving that technologically SE is a real leader. Deus Ex, although it was a prequel to an existing property, was a new type of game for SE, and SE has produced a couple high profile games for other developers that came and went without a fuss. All I'm saying is, whatever Square's been doing, people are already tired of it. In fact the article I posted, if anybody read it, Square's actually addressing this: Remaking their tentpole property while everything they're currently releasing is shit is a grandiose and pocket-emptying euphemism for giving up. So, here's to hoping that Versus XIII is worth the wait.

 

[Max Payne]

Well all I know is Tidus is in a metropolis and then all of a sudden he's in a group of small island nations after Sin attacks that he is not at all familiar with that's technologically inferior, but obviously makes up for it with magic and shit. Story conventions lead me to assume it's time travel, but I'll obviously take your word for it having not finished it.


http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/26/square-enix-reveals-conditions-for-final-fantasy-vii-remake

Strange I didn't see this on the news feed, but this is pretty relevant. This is a far more stern response than I think they've ever given, which to me is solidifying the fact that I'm not going to be playing FFVII in HD till i'm probably out of college/later. On the flip side, this would seem to be more in favor of a new compilation title, which would give me something nice to be disappointed by in a couple years. "Make a title better than FFVII?" Tall order, especially since SE's been in the shitter lately. Hopefully XIII-2 and Deus Ex are signaling a rise in quality that we'll see pay off in Versus :/

There was a thread made about this subject already.

Also noctis is right, SE has fuck all to do with EIDOs game quality beyond publishing them and taking a cut from their games success.