Jenova's Plaque and Gast

[Elysianist]

Ok so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned much before but here goes.

So on the plaque on Jenova's head in ACC it says:
"JENOVA
|µ|-Era 19591010 Hakken (means DISCOVERY)
|µ|-Era 19670702 Fuuin (means SEAL)"

EDIT: link to the AC Jenova plaque here:
http://thelifestream.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Jenova-inscription-AC.png

(I use ACC's plaque as the example because it seems the most legit and eligible. I know the plaque said different things in different parts of the canon. Also this example shows official FFVII dates with the use of correct era etc.)

This means discovered in 1959, stored in the Mt.Nibel reactor in 1967 (during its construction which finished in 1968)

My question is, how come in the official timeline from the Ultimania it says Jenova was discovered approx. 30 years before FFVII, seeing as 1959 is 48 years before FFVII's storyline. Were the official dates of Jenova's discovery not in the Ultimania?

Also, how come the first Mako reactor construction at Mt. Nibel wasn’t mentioned in it either? I can’t completely remember where I got the dates from, I believe it was BC but I could be wrong.

Bit extra to spark some more debate:
Do you think that the reason Gast became head of the science department in 1970 was due to his discovery of Jenova, and his following experiments?

 

[Flintlock]

In the original game, the inscription on Jenova's head was:

MADE IN HONG KONG
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED 1996
SQUER COMPANY LIMITED

If you think the 1959/1967 dates are off, how do you explain 1996?

...and what is the significance of the absolute value of mu?

 

[Elysianist]

The original game Jenova plaque did say that, however this was almost like an easter egg and didn't relate to Jenova's discovery in the actual game storyline, whereas the plaque seen in AC is fully in relation to the timeline of the canon, this is why I used it as my example.

I don't think the dates (1959/1967) are off at all, I actually believe them to be officially confirmed dates of Jenova's discovery and storage in relation to the storyline.

Lastly, not sure what you mean by what is the significance of the absolute value of mu. Mu (or µ) was the era in which Jenova was discovered, Nu (or v) was the era of the Jenova War and the events of the original FFVII etc.

Hope that helps

 

[Flintlock]

Wow. There is so much about the FFVII world (compilation) I don't know. And so much I don't want to know. For me, the original game was gospel. If Jenova's plaque said what I posted in the original game, then that's what it said, even if it was an Easter egg. Any subsequent change is a retcon. Anyway, I should probably stay out of this thread - I'm sure it's interesting to other people besides you

 

[Fangu]

It is.
Flint, you should really look into the Compilation o wait I'm talking to deaf ears aren't I

 

[Flintlock]

Yes you are I tried playing Dirge of Cerberus, which was bought for me, but I didn't like it at all. I tried watching Advent Children (twice), but I thought it was a terrible movie. So why should I be interested in trying out any more of it? Even if the gameplay/film was good, I probably wouldn't like the story changes.

 

[S and G]

Sorry to burst the bubble guys, but this has been brought up before. It turned out the dates were special to SQ or the writers' birthdays or something. Not actually FF related.

 

[Elysianist]

Oh damn

I just figured the dates shown in AC seemed to tie in well with the timeline.
Thanks anyway, I thought it had probably been mentioned before.

 

[Octo]

If I recall correctly, in the OG, when Sephiroth is reading the files in the Shinra mansion:

Sephiroth: "....an organism that was apparently dead, was found in a 2000 year old geological stratum." "Professor Gast named that organism, Jenova..." (The camera pans up.)

Sephiroth: "X Year, X Month, X Day. Jenova confirmed to be an Ancient..." "X Year, X Month, X Day. Jenova Project approved. The use of Mako Reactor 1 approved for use..."


So it would be kind of stupid to plaster the dates all over Jenovas containment unit, when it was obviously top secret

 

[Elysianist]

Well we know that officially Gast discovered and stored Jenova approx. 30 years before FFVII, the books that Sephiroth was reading in the ShinRa mansion probably didn't have the dates in just incase someone did find and read them.
However, the plaque on Jenova's head (which is still top secret because it was sealed away) in AC says 1959 Hakken (Discovery)/1967 Fuuin (Seal), which aren't random dates, especially if they were shown so explicitly during the film.

I'm not just pulling random dates out a hat XD there must be some kind of correlation between the dates shown in AC and the discovery/storage of Jenova, I just don't know why it's not officially mentioned in the timeline if it clearly states it in AC.

EDIT:
Just updated my original post, added a link to the pic.
The words next to the dates mean Discovery and Seal (Hakken and Fuuin)

 

[Ite]

Who are all these people?

 

[Elysianist]

Which people?