Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue - Coming to PS4

[Tetsujin]

so like. remember when kairi was a thing that was important in this series and got to be on covers?

Well she isn't really in any of the games in 2.8, so

 

[Strangelove]

is axel much?

idk maybe my memory of 3d is foggy now

and maybe it kind of annoys me that when they seemed to be giving her more of an active role it got apparently forgot for, like, reno 2

 

[Tetsujin]

I don't remember Axel much in 3D...

Come to think of it, Donald and Goofy didn't really have an active part either. You had assist pokemanz instead

I guess there really was no excuse to leave Kairi off the cover then

 

[Dashell]

Didn't Axel/Lea become a keyblade wielder and save Sora, Mickey and Riku? I'd say that's cover worthy

 

[Strangelove]

yeah but kairi already did that like 60 games ago before they decided to just not do anything with her character in favour of making like a dozen sora and xehanort clones

 

[Dashell]

yeah but kairi already did that like 60 games ago before they decided to just not do anything with her character in favour of making like a dozen sora and xehanort clones

and she was on the cover of 1.5 and 2.5, now that Axel does the same thing in 2.8, he's on the cover

 

[Strangelove]

don't try to talk reason into my bitterness over neglected characters

 

[Tashasaurous]

Stop having a goddamn meltdown all the time. It's just one month.
And I don't know how you keep inferring anything about KH3's release date considering they never mentioned anything about that.

Sorry. It's just that I was seriously hoping that FFXV's delay wouldn't effect 2.8, though deep down I knew it was gonna happen since it was waaaay too close to each other.

Not only that, I was also hoping that Jump Festa would at least reveal the release date of KH3 for 2017 since that seemed a bit likely with 2.8 supposed to be coming out this year. But now it's another two year delay for KH3 all over again, unless they suddenly decide to make another spin-off to delay KH3 for 2019(god forbid).

I'm just sick and tired of waiting for something that is always one year closer after you pass the first half of the two year wait, and then suddenly you're mentally told that you have to wait for an extra year and I'm back to square one all over again. It's like a game of Monopoly when you end up stopping onto the "Go to Jail" part, going back and forth.

This has been going on since 2012 and it's frustrating. I knew 2018 was the most likely year and I seriously hoped that I was wrong since 2013(when they announced the Remasters of KH, Chain of Memories, and 358/2 Days).

I guess hope is over-rated these days.

Edit: And Kairi wasn't on the cover in 2.5. (Neither was Lea/Axel) There was only Sora, Data-Sora, Data-Riku, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Roxas, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, Xehanort, Ansem, and Xemnas and a bunch of Keyblades.

 

[Tetsujin]

Not only that, I was also hoping that Jump Festa would at least reveal the release date of KH3 for 2017 since that seemed a bit likely with 2.8 supposed to be coming out this year. But now it's another two year delay for KH3 all over again, unless they suddenly decide to make another spin-off to delay KH3 for 2019(god forbid).

What are you talking about? What two year delay for KH3?! Where are you getting this delay stuff from? You're not making any sense!
Maybe you should stop expecting games for a specific year when they have never said anything about any release windows whatsoever.

 

[Dashell]

But now it's another two year delay for KH3 all over again

Uh... when was the first two year delay? KH III has had 0 delays thus far because a release date hasn't even been announced.

Edit: And Kairi wasn't on the cover in 2.5. (Neither was Lea/Axel) There was only Sora, Data-Sora, Data-Riku, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Roxas, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, Xehanort, Ansem, and Xemnas and a bunch of Keyblades.

Oh you're right, for some reason I remember seeing her there. ... well poop, she should be there

 

[Tashasaurous]

What are you talking about? What two year delay for KH3?! Where are you getting this delay stuff from? You're not making any sense!
Maybe you should stop expecting games for a specific year when they have never said anything about any release windows whatsoever.

It's just that everytime KH3 seems closer when a game that's supposed to lead directly into it is released, all of the sudden Nomura comes up with another idea to delay it even further, because the more he develops more spin-offs that weren't originally planned, the more it delays his work on KH3. Or the remasters since KH3 was gonna be for PS3, but like FFXV(back when it was still Versus XIII) it was ported up to PS4.

Not only that, each development of other KH games keeps on delaying KH3 for another two years to the point where the very game we all want ends up in a complete mess, especially since he's directing, character-designing and telling the writer to come up with more stories to make the KH storyline even more confusing. (Like how X Chi PC ended up being a confusing cliff-hanger before the system shut down, if you've seen the walkthrough on Youtube).

Plus, he was doing a bit of a good job in releasing a KH game every year, I always end up getting disappointed when he either suddenly brings up another game after he finally announced KH3 close to the end of the year of the waiting period, or he announces of remaster of previous games, or another one of the Company's games gets delayed which forces him to delay a game or two he's working on which delays his work for KH3 even further.

But now it's another two year delay for KH3 all over again

Uh... when was the first two year delay? KH III has had 0 delays thus far because a release date hasn't even been announced.

2012 when Dream Drop Distance first game out. Back then, when KH3 was finally announced a year later, I seriously hoped it would be out in 2014. Then 1.5 happened. A year later, I'm hoping for a 2015 release, then 2.5 happened. In 2015, I hoped for this year to be the release year. Then 2.8 happened. This year, I hoped for next year to be the release year. Then the delay for 2.8 for 2017 happened.

If that's not delaying Nomura to finally finish working on KH3 that's been in development for much longer than he began working on FFVII Remake and to announce the release date for KH3, then I don't know.

Edit: And Kairi wasn't on the cover in 2.5. (Neither was Lea/Axel) There was only Sora, Data-Sora, Data-Riku, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Roxas, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, Xehanort, Ansem, and Xemnas and a bunch of Keyblades.

Oh you're right, for some reason I remember seeing her there. ... well poop, she should be there

I think it's because Kairi had a less role in the other games since her main role really was KH1. Actually, I like her KH2 render much better. Heck, I prefer Sora's and Riku's KH2 renders better.

 

[Tennyo]

Tasha, to be fair, and honest, a lot of that sounds like your own fault. You were assuming things when there was no evidence for it.

Now please stop. >_<

Please please please

 

[Tetsujin]

It's just that everytime KH3 seems closer when a game that's supposed to lead directly into it is released, all of the sudden Nomura comes up with another idea to delay it even further, because the more he develops more spin-offs that weren't originally planned, the more it delays his work on KH3. Or the remasters since KH3 was gonna be for PS3, but like FFXV(back when it was still Versus XIII) it was ported up to PS4.

KH3 was *never* planned for PS3. It was developed from the ground up for PS4 and XBOne.

Not only that, each development of other KH games keeps on delaying KH3 for another two years

Again, where are you getting this from? You are literally making this up.

2012 when Dream Drop Distance first game out. Back then, when KH3 was finally announced a year later, I seriously hoped it would be out in 2014. Then 1.5 happened. A year later, I'm hoping for a 2015 release, then 2.5 happened. In 2015, I hoped for this year to be the release year. Then 2.8 happened. This year, I hoped for next year to be the release year. Then the delay for 2.8 for 2017 happened.

That is your own fault for setting completely unrealistic expectations. When KH3 was announced, Nomura pointed out that it was very early in development. No one should've expected it to be released in the next two to three years especially considering there's been barely any footage or info. There are no delays, and the releases of the HD Remixes are completely irrelevant to this.

 

[Dashell]

If that's not delaying Nomura to finally finish working on KH3 that's been in development for much longer than he began working on FFVII Remake and to announce the release date for KH3, then I don't know.

It's you assuming a release date for a game that had no release date announced yet... that's literally all your fault dude.

Or the remasters since KH3 was gonna be for PS3, but like FFXV(back when it was still Versus XIII) it was ported up to PS4.

said who? lol, I don't remember reading this. I'm fairly certain they've said PS4 since the beginning. I remember years ago thinking, "I have to buy a PS4 when this comes out."

If you read the KH III topic on here, you'll see after its announcement most people here were saying stuff like, "It'll probably be 4 years before we see it."... pretty much everyone here had the idea that it'd take about 4 years or longer... you were the only one assuming a game as MASSIVE as KH III would only take 2 years to make.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Tasha, to be fair, and honest, a lot of that sounds like your own fault. You were assuming things when there was no evidence for it.

Now please stop. >_<

Please please please

Elena, please explain to me how is it my fault that Square's screwed up with their fans big time for the last decade? I mean, first revealing definate release dates for their games(and I don't just mean Kingdom Hearts), say things in interviews that were obviously just lies, and then say just one or two months before the actual releases of said games that they announce the delays or in some cases(Like Agito+) cancelled, and then come up with more titles that were not announced earlier in the piece after finally announcing the said game that you want is seriously a bad move on their part.

Plus, I'm not the only one who believed in what I just said. Lots of people were expecting KH3 to come out either last year, or this year, or next year, and then this happens. Check up the KH13 Forums for example.

So don't blame me that Square's gone down hill in their developments and none-sense making and getting their fans worked up only to make them disappointed more than happy these days.

 

[Dashell]

Let me explain it to you:

2012 when Dream Drop Distance first game out. Back then, when KH3 was finally announced a year later, I seriously hoped it would be out in 2014. Then 1.5 happened. A year later, I'm hoping for a 2015 release, then 2.5 happened. In 2015, I hoped for this year to be the release year. Then 2.8 happened. This year, I hoped for next year to be the release year. Then the delay for 2.8 for 2017 happened.

See that?

I hoped... I hoped... I hoped... I hoped...

not, "Square said it would be" "Square promised this." It was literally ALL YOU assuming when the game would come out. You can't just say "I hope the game comes out this time." and then blame Square when it doesn't come out when you're just guessing. That's ridiculous.

Plus, I'm not the only one who believed in what I just said. Lots of people were expecting KH3 to come out either last year, or this year, or next year, and then this happens. Check up the KH13 Forums for example.

Then that's THEIR fault. Just because everyone's hoping for one thing doesn't mean it's someone else's fault when it doesn't happen. I'm hoping Demyx is in KH III in some form so we know his fate but is it going to be Square's fault if he isn't? Or my own?



Games get delayed sometimes, it happens. It's not just Square. Sega and Nintendo have delayed games too. They got shit to do. I'd rather they delay them then, say, oh I don't know, release a shitty product *coughSonicBoomcough*



And I'd like to point out that THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION IS INCREDIBLY SILLY AND STUPID BECAUSE A RELEASE DATE FOR THE GAME WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT WAS NEVER EVEN ANNOUNCED YET

 

[Tashasaurous]

Well then fine. I'm sorry for being stupid for the past four years. I'm still blaming Square for coming up ideas that delays development for their other games by making new ones in that time-frame, though. Seriously a bad move during the development of KH3 by continuously making new KH3 titles to make things more confusing.

*Exhales sharply in frustration* I give up. (Sarcastically)I'll be lucky to see KH3 for my 35th birthday.

 

[Dashell]

Well then fine. I'm sorry for being stupid for the past four years. I'm still blaming Square for coming up ideas that delays development for their other games by making new ones in that time-frame, though. Seriously a bad move during the development of KH3 by continuously making new KH3 titles to make things more confusing.

Yeah Square should only work on one game at a time

 

[Lex]

Square announced KH3 at the 2013 Sony E3 press conference for PS4, with Nomura going on record numerous times right after it saying he thought it was too early to announce it and it shouldn't have been shown. Those are all the facts anyone needs to not expect KH3 any time before 2018. 2017 would be a lovely surprise even (for KH fans). Moral of the story: set your own expectations based on facts, not what the random children screaming in comments are saying on the internet.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Just take Versus XIII as the basis for your expectations and you can't possibly be disappointed.

 

[Strangelove]

The problem with kh3 is that it was basically a given, but then after kh2 they decided to do a remake of com. Then a portable game about roxas. Then a mobile game about data sora in a cyber dungeon adventure. Then a psp game set in the past, a port of that mobile game, HD remasters, a browser-turned-mobile game, a portable game about dream worlds, a remaster of that.

tbh I thought they had announced kh3 properly soon than 2013.

But I stopped anxiously anticipating games long ago, especially from square.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Well at least I'm not the only one who thought about the problems with Kh games development.

On the side note after rewatching the new trailer, what's with the dark Aqua facing the real Aqua? Is she like Riku's Replica in COM, or just a manfestion from the Realm of Darkness influence on Aqua?

 

[Dashell]

I was thinking the latter, the former would imply Vexen or someone from OrgXIII had something to do with it, and I doubt they did....

speaking of, I really hope we see Even in KH III

 

[Tashasaurous]

I was thinking the latter, the former would imply Vexen or someone from OrgXIII had something to do with it, and I doubt they did....

speaking of, I really hope we see Even in KH III

Yeah, the latter is most likely. The Realm of Darkness is starting to play tricks on the poor girl. I nearly teared up when Aqua nearly died and given up until Mickey showed up(in his KH1/COM clothes) asking if she was okay. Wonder how he fared in his short time in the Realm of Darkness.

I think we will see Even in KH3. Surely he recovered to full health by now after DDD like Dilan. Those two had the worst luck of recovering while Lea, Ienzo, Aeleus(ugh, I can never get his name right) and Braig before hand all recovered and re-adapted as humans again fairly quickly.

Unless the reason why they haven't recovered yet is because they are both....already half-Xehanort themselves and the others don't even know it yet.

Speaking of which, I think I have a theory on why KH358/2 Days logo is coloured red and KHBirth by Sleep is coloured blue.

Red represents Axel's struggles in losing Roxas and Xion and slowly becoming who he is in KH2 before reviving as Lea, and Blue represents Aqua who loses her friends and becomes trapped in the Realm of Darkness.

Or maybe it's because they are the only two supporting characters in the most important games of the series that survive or revive to one day join Sora, since the other main playable characters either died or become lost for Sora to rescue.

If you really think about it, Lea's/Axel's hair is red, and Aqua's is blue, and both logos of both games match their hair colours. Ya' know what I mean?

 

[Dashell]

Tetsuya Nomura

So Tetsuya Nomura gave a message on twitter about 2.8 with a tiny but of 3 info:

Usually when new information is released I speak about it in interviews with the media etc., but this time the opportunity didn't line up, so I'm going to speak to you directly through Twitter.

First, I must apologise. As was stated today, due to the adjustment of contiguous titles, our estimated release date for KINGDOM HEARTS 2.8 of December 2016 has become (for Japan) the 12th January 2017. To everyone who was looking forward to a release before the end of the year, I'm so sorry. Please rest assured that development itself is moving along as planned without a single issue and we are nearly finished.


There will again be two kinds of demo booths at TGS, 0.2 and DDD. The number of DDD booths in particular will be quite low, so if you have your heart set on experiencing KH at 60fps, please leave plenty of time to come to the booths. The smoothness and feel of the controls of DDD in actual motion is very fresh. Also, the 0.2 demo booths are the same style as the ones that were out at E3 this year. That means the style is already different compared to the style in the trailer we just released. The final commercial version is currently undergoing even more quality upping, but I think you can get a pretty good taste of the controls themselves from the demo. Please take this chance to get a feel of the first KH game produced for PS4.

In the trailer released at the same time as this message, I included some rather interesting scenes, as this won't be the last trailer, and it's designed to make you look forward to what's coming next. Best of all, the Hikaru Utada's Hikari -Ray of Hope Mix- included in the trailer was remixed ESPECIALLY FOR the opening of 0.2. Please look forward to getting to hear this new version of Hikari along with the opening movie.



With the development deadline approaching we are currently busy with last-minute work on 2.8, but for the first time in history our box art was actually ready before the release date announcement. I think I'll let the awesomeness of this miraculous planning speak for how well things are going. By the way, it will of course be compatible with the PS4Pro, so be excited. Furthermore, the other game we are working on while doing this, KH3, is coming along steadily. There are new worlds in which you can run, jump, [spoilers], [spoilers]... I'm very excited about moving Sora around in the wider space with his higher range of maneuverability. Next year is the 15th year anniversary, and first there's the release of 2.8, then that same month Unchained &#967; gains multiplayer functionality, and in March the full orchestra world tour (reservations for which opened today) begins, and actually, there's something else being planned for around then that I can't announce yet&#8230; One way or another, I think next year will be full of chances for me to announce new information, and I will be blessed to have reached fifteen memory-filled years with all of you.



Kingdom Hearts series director Tetsuya Nomura

So basically 3 is coming along nicely, 2.8 is on target and is going to be even more beautiful than in the trailer we saw... there will be ANOTHER trailer released soon and 2017 is going to be the year of Kingdom Hearts (my words not his)


so get pumped, we're just getting started


and to reply to Tashasaurous

I think we will see Even in KH3. Surely he recovered to full health by now after DDD like Dilan. Those two had the worst luck of recovering while Lea, Ienzo, Aeleus(ugh, I can never get his name right) and Braig before hand all recovered and re-adapted as humans again fairly quickly.

Unless the reason why they haven't recovered yet is because they are both....already half-Xehanort themselves and the others don't even know it yet.

Nah they're fine, they'd be in the new Organization if they were half Xehanort.

Speaking of which, I think I have a theory on why KH358/2 Days logo is coloured red and KHBirth by Sleep is coloured blue.

Red represents Axel's struggles in losing Roxas and Xion and slowly becoming who he is in KH2 before reviving as Lea, and Blue represents Aqua who loses her friends and becomes trapped in the Realm of Darkness.

Or maybe it's because they are the only two supporting characters in the most important games of the series that survive or revive to one day join Sora, since the other main playable characters either died or become lost for Sora to rescue.

If you really think about it, Lea's/Axel's hair is red, and Aqua's is blue, and both logos of both games match their hair colours. Ya' know what I mean?

It's a cool theory but to be honest I don't think they gave it that much thought... but I could be wrong, maybe they did. you never know with Nomura and what not