Kingdom Hearts III

[Tashasaurous]

Just found out in the latest interview of Nomura that the KH characters' clothes are all or mostly inspired by some of his clothing that he bought himself and worn! And the good news is that KH3 isn't going to be as grim as we thought and it will have funny moments too along the way. That's some relief at least.

 

[JechtShotMK9]

"We" thought?

 

[Sprites]

Nomura's janitor's son's best friend's roommate's cat's former owner told me that Riku is gonna sacrifice Kairi to Malificent to get his dark powers back so that he can save what's left of Sora's heart from Xehanort after Ven literally rips his way out of Sora.

I was suddenly reminded of that episode of Soul Eater where Soul has that dream of bursting out of Maka.

 

[Tashasaurous]

"We" thought?

Well, not just here, but other Forum places like KH13 website and not to mention forum links on Youtube videos when people talk about KH3 or things related to the upcoming game.

But anyway, wherever Nomura shops for his clothes, at least he has pretty darn good taste.

 

[Blade]

So...

I've been gradually catching up and watching "Movies" of the KH games and I've watched just about everything:

Chi Back Cover
Birth by Sleep (Blank Points too)
KH1
Fragmentary Passage
Chain of Memories
358/2 Days (though it should be x2 days, not divided)

And I'm still going over KHII right now.

I'm just gonna say this series kinda feels like a really long film-to-game adaptation, and not entirely well-done, in my honest opinion.

I think, thus far, the best part seems to be Fragmentary Passage, mostly because it doesn't TRY to intrude in to other films and make characters fit in.

And while KHII seems to do a much better job of making Sora "fit in" as he jumps from world to world... I think if they used less source material from Disney Films and actually adlibbed more, the experiences would be that much better.

When Walt Disney built Disney Land, his goal was to create an experience where people were "inside the fantasy" and could make their own choices, and while the films certainly set the tone, they shouldn't be the rule standard.

Also, I noted that Sora's facial and movement animations are way too "bouncy" to seem natural. Maybe they were initially going for something that fit a Disney character like Mickey, but the human face doesn't get that animated all the time. I'd get dizzy bobbing my head that much when talking and gesturing.

I get the impression that KHIII will have to become something that surpasses the other games on a fundamental level, not forcing Sora to sub in for other characters, but to be able to be himself in any world he visits.

 

[Lex]

New trailer showcasing Big Hero Six:

 

[ultima espio]

Custom Gummi ships are returning. There's an Ultros one this time:

 

[Tetsujin]

Nice!

 

[Theozilla]

Apparently there is also going to be an extended/longer trailer dropping on the 18th that will have new footage as well.

Also seeing a lot of people theorizing that one of the split second scenes, show Xion (or a second replica of her) but 'Norted.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Had a feeling Big Hero 6 was up next. And for the Xion scene, it may be a replica of her, or maybe Sora successfully freed Roxas and Xion as well but Xehanort got to her, thus she may be the thirteenth vessel. Hope she gets saved and I still hope for all of my favorites(especially Kairi) to survive.

Still hoping for Agrabah reveal and the return of both Cloud, Tifa, Sephiroth and the Restoration Committee, but that's now to the point where I've given up that hope and I still have a bad feeling Kairi will die and I want her to continue on.

 

[Alex Strife]

I still have a bad feeling Kairi will die and I want her to continue on.

I came here expecting this. Was not disappointed.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Well, other people in other forums keep on saying Riku's gonna die but they don't seem to care what happens to Kairi. On the other hand, if this is indeed Xion, then I can at least say that I sort of had a feeling her being a vessel would happen. Wish I had been wrong, but I was expecting it. I might still be wrong and whether it may be Sora or a new character that resembles to both, or it could even be Kairi for all we know since she, Xion and Namine share the same faces like Sora, Roxas and Ven do.

 

[Tashasaurous]

In other words, things are pretty dark and we all know that some characters will not return after KH3. Another thing, it looks like Xion and it could very well be her, or it could be someone else since it is a split second shot. The only way to find out for certain is the next trailer at the TGS in a couple of weeks.

 

[Roger]

In other words, things are pretty dark and we all know that some characters will not return after KH3. Another thing, it looks like Xion and it could very well be her, or it could be someone else since it is a split second shot. The only way to find out for certain is the next trailer at the TGS in a couple of weeks.

Xehanort saga will be over, most OG characters shouldn't return after KH3, next should be a new protagonist and his circle of friend's journey regardless of how dark KH3's ending is.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Xehanort saga will be over, most OG characters shouldn't return after KH3, next should be a new protagonist and his circle of friend's journey regardless of how dark KH3's ending is.

Well, I disagree about most OG not returning after KH3. I'd like to see the adventures of Sora's group continue. The characters that I seriously don't mind not seeing again post-KH3 are Braig/Xigbar, Xehanort(Obviously because it is the end the Xehanort Saga), and Maleficent(They need a new Disney villian because I'm sick of her regardless how good she is, but come on).

The ones that I want to return are the Destiny Trio(especially them), the Twilight Trio(Lea/Axel, Roxas and Xion), Namine(I like her too, she deserves much better), Isa(don't like his Nobody persona but I liked his teenage persona), the BBS(like Namine, they deserve a break) and of course the famous Disney Trio, and the Final Fantasy group(Cloud, Tifa, and the Restoration Commitee because you can't have Kingdom Hearts without Final Fantasy since KH is a Disney/Final Fantasy crossover from start to finish), and maybe Ienzo because I like him too.

The ones that I half-expecting to return are Marluxia as his original(even his Original's connection in KHUX so he may have a new role in the next Saga and Sora and Ven both know him), Larxene(maaaaaaaybe, not sure), Epmeher(not sure), Skuld(again, not sure), and Brain(I have a suspicious feeling about this guy) and strangely enough, Strelitzia(very likely not, but who knows).

However, there are ones that I'm mostly expecting that won't return, unfortunately are pretty much all of them.

Uncertain but very likely: Sora, Riku, Kairi, Lea, Roxas, Xion, and Namine-and they're all my favorites.

Quite possitive but I may be wrong: Aqua, Terra, Ven and Isa-given their status, I don't see them surviving, unfortunately.

Plus given Nomura's words always being back to front, I think since he's upset that he has to kill off Xehanort in some way, he wants us to forget our favorites as well which, it's understandable, but I was hoping to see my favorite heroes continue on. Regardless, if there is a new protagonist in the next saga, then I'm done with Kingdom Hearts after KH3.

 

[Blade]

Welp, I finished Dream Drop Distance.

....And now I have Sanctuary stuck in my head like an ear-worm that won't go away!

Couple things I noticed while watching.

The "black outfit" Sora from KHII looks much more mature than "red outfit" Sora that appears throughout most of this story for some reason, I don't know if they recycled his body model from KH1 or what...

I liked "The World Ends with You" crossover, as that was pretty neat, but I don't recall it ending very strongly, so that could have been improved I think.

The jump to Tron 2 also ended on a bitter note too, so I'm not sure I liked how that turned out either.

I still think Xigbar/Braig has a lot to do with the Master of Masters in Back Cover, like he altered the timeline or something (even though they SAY you can't do that in KH3D).

I also still don't get why Sora hasn't gotten to understand Xion and Roxas better, if that's even possible for him... everybody keeps telling him to "ask his heart" but it's like he never does, unless the

Spoiler

Nightmare Ventus

has something to do with it?

Then there's Aqua's armor in the Chamber of Repose... is that supposed to seal up someone else to become a vessel too? I assume that's why Aqua became another Xehanhort in the KH3 trailer. But I don't think that's a guarantee of a loss, mostly because of what Riku went through.

So far, the only characters that have actually fully disappeared (as far as I know) are Roxas and Namine' for obvious reasons.

Still, it makes me wonder what role Terra is going to play in all this? Will he be a Shard of Darkness or a Shard of Light? Will that affect the number of keyblade shards?

Oh, and while I'm at it, I got a question: how much of Final Fantasy XIII-2 was inspired by Kingdom Hearts... cuz I swear Noel Kreiss is an expy of Sora.

 

[Theozilla]

The reason why Sora and Riku’s models in DDD look younger is because they are younger, to get the Realm of Sleep Sora and Riku had to travel back in time to when Destiny Islands we’re getting consumed by darkness in KH1, so they were de-aged/inhabiting their KH1 bodies.
As for Sora being able to communicate with people in his heart, he doesn’t know how/have the skill to do that. Also no one can even remember Xion’s existence anymore presently.
Aqua’s armor doesn’t mean much other than Xehanort and Braig kept it at the end of Birth By Sleep, exactly what they intend to use it for is unknown.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Maybe Aqua's Keyblade Armor will serve as an important part of KH3 to restore/save Aqua and return her to the light? For Sora's group to use I mean, and maybe the reason why Xehanort and Braig kept it is to keep Aqua from protecting herself from the darkness as Xehanort possibly knew it would help Aqua to protect her from him.

I also have a theory that due to the Master of Master's eye being in the Keyblade Xehanort is currently using allows the successors to see the future events and that's how/why Xehanort is always one step ahead.

 

[Tashasaurous]

It also occured to me, as the one scene were Sora picks up Eraqus's Keyblade in the recent trailer, which is the remake of the scene from the reveal KH3 trailer back five years ago, I wonder if Destiny Islands will be playable or it's one of the ending scenes of the game itself or a dream or something. Because in the remake of the scene, Sora's wearing his KH3 outfit instead of his KH2 outfit as we first saw back in 2013.

 

[Lex]

Longer trailer and box art

 

[Tashasaurous]

Nice! I am absolutely in LOVE with the box art! And ALL OF THEM ARE THERE! Totally awesome!

Spoiler

And Vexen...I knew it! I knew that guy ended up as Xehanort's vessel! How he was unstable in Dream Drop Distance just
confirmed that Xehanort's heart was inside him! And poor Demyx...T^T

 

[Theozilla]

So if Vexen, Demyx, and Riku Replica (or was it Data-Riku?) are all ‘Norted I guess that means Vanitas isn’t a Xehanort vessel?

So I guess this is the Real Organization XIII roster then:
1. Master Xehanort
2. Young Xehanort
3. Ansem SoD
4. Xemnas
5. Xigbar
6. Saïx
7. Marluxia
8. Larxene
9. Luxord
10. Aqua
11. Demyx
12. Vexen
13. Data-Riku or Riku Replica

I suppose Vanitas could be a member still if Aqua is only ‘Norted for a little bit (which I've seen speculated on twitter based on the trailer:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1041926364406972418

), then someone else takes her spot I guess? Also Terra's status (like if he's still Terra-Xehanort) is still unknown too.

I wonder who they'll get to replace Leonard Nimoy for Master Xehanort's English voice?

 

[Tashasaurous]

Yay and no-one is dead on the cover!!!

...No one saw coming of the fates of characters by looking at the covers of any of KH games. I mean, you look at KH2 cover before the remix and no one knew what happened to Riku until they actually played the game since he was absent on the cover.

Still, I really love the cover art.

So if Vexen, Demyx, and Riku Replica (or was it Data-Riku?) are all ‘Norted I guess that means Vanitas isn’t a Xehanort vessel?

So I guess this is the Real Organization XIII roster then:
1. Master Xehanort
2. Young Xehanort
3. Ansem SoD
4. Xemnas
5. Xigbar
6. Saïx
7. Marluxia
8. Larxene
9. Luxord
10. Aqua
11. Demyx
12. Vexen
13. Data-Riku or Riku Replica

I suppose Vanitas could be a member still if Aqua is only ‘Norted for a little bit (which I've seen speculated on twitter based on the trailer, then someone else takes her spot I guess? Also Terra's status (like if he's still Terra-Xehanort) is still unknown too.

I had been thinking that. Maybe having Aqua norted was part of Xehanort's plot to kidnap her and force her to reveal Ven's location so that Vanitas could possess his body like in Birth By Sleep?

And as for the 13th vessel, I'm thinking it's either Data-Riku(I doubt it), Replica-Riku(possibly), Terranort(50% chance), Xion or Sora. Guess we'll wait and see in December's trailer or in the game coming out in four months.

I wonder who they'll get to replace Leonard Nimoy for Master Xehanort's English voice?

Guess we'll have to wait and find out.

 

[Roger]

Judging my Lea's tears and the seeing a blonde guy take it's hood off, I'm guessing Roxas will find it's way back to Organisation XIII at some point. Good job, Axel, you fulfilled your promise to the letter.

 

[Lulcielid]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1042006119692894209