Lucifer (TV Series)
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He just wrote speech bubbles, though.
The british accent for a villain is the only one that doesn't have unfortunate implications, these days- you couldn't have him Arabic, for instance.
Did Constantine get good? I watched the first few episodes, but while it had potential, didn't grab me the way the comics did.
The british accent for a villain is the only one that doesn't have unfortunate implications, these days- you couldn't have him Arabic, for instance.
Did Constantine get good? I watched the first few episodes, but while it had potential, didn't grab me the way the comics did.
So they went out of their way to cast a British actor. Worse! XD
EDIT: I'm confused. Who is Neil Gaiman in the context of this TV Show? Is it based on a book he wrote or something?
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It's based on a character (Lucifer from "The Sandman" comics) that he created -- and whom he asked the artist to model after David Bowie (another Brit) -- as well as Lucifer's eponymous series written by Mike Carey (also British).
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So were the "Harry Potter" movies, and that was as the author intended. Though describing the character as "the leader of all evil" tells me you don't know much about him.
But you do know Lucifer's the hero of this thing, right?
But you do know Lucifer's the hero of this thing, right?
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The entire cast was British in Harry Potter Tres, come the fuck on! Everything about the Harry Potter movies is completely British aside from the fact that the people (who are almost entirely British) were employed by Warner Brothers. It's a well known fact that was a stipulation of J.K.Rowling allowing them to be made. They were even filmed here, which is rare.
It's LUCIFER. He might be the protagonist but that's kind of irrelevant given how the character of Lucifer is known around the world XD XD XD. Omg why is this even an argument.
If you're telling me this was set in L.A. in the source material and the original author wanted a British actor, that's fair enough. A British villain in an American setting is completely different from a British villain in a British setting. There's a history of America making villains British and I'm just saying I'm not surprised.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend English accents don't make good villains, but I am going to say that it happens too often, and it's a particularly American thing to do.
It's LUCIFER. He might be the protagonist but that's kind of irrelevant given how the character of Lucifer is known around the world XD XD XD. Omg why is this even an argument.
If you're telling me this was set in L.A. in the source material and the original author wanted a British actor, that's fair enough. A British villain in an American setting is completely different from a British villain in a British setting. There's a history of America making villains British and I'm just saying I'm not surprised.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend English accents don't make good villains, but I am going to say that it happens too often, and it's a particularly American thing to do.
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Were Gaiman and Carey involved in casting the show?
That trailer didn't grab me, honestly. He looks a lot like a stock ' rogue' character, (Lucifer Morningstar against mob hitmen? Really?) If I was gonna cast Lucifer, the character would be something like this:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbxNlS5kiCM"/>
Also British accented, but you can't have everything. I mean the attitude, pure arrogance, but determined to defy fate, etc. But it could still prove me wrong, most things do.
That trailer didn't grab me, honestly. He looks a lot like a stock ' rogue' character, (Lucifer Morningstar against mob hitmen? Really?) If I was gonna cast Lucifer, the character would be something like this:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbxNlS5kiCM"/>
Also British accented, but you can't have everything. I mean the attitude, pure arrogance, but determined to defy fate, etc. But it could still prove me wrong, most things do.
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I'd be very surprised if Gaiman or Carey were involved with the casting, but Gaiman was adamant in the design of Lucifer that he's Bowie, telling artist Kelley Jones, "You must draw David Bowie. Find David Bowie, or I'll send you David Bowie. Because if it isn't David Bowie, you're going to have to redo it until it is David Bowie." So I'd be even more surprised if that didn't include room for him to sound English.
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Clement Rage
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Sam Vimes is drawn as Clint Eastwood. Doesn't make him American. It doesn't really bother me, but considering he's not even from earth, in a setting where earth actually exists, the only reason he'd have that accent is intentionally for kicks.
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I didn't say the character is British or English, did I? =P
Fact is, he would have some kind of accent (to someone's ears) if he communicates audibly. Given then that he was created by an Englishman who insisted emphatically that the character be modeled after another Englishman, it's only a natural leap to think that he might have an English accent. At any rate, it's hardly egregious to have an actor with such an accent portray him.
Fact is, he would have some kind of accent (to someone's ears) if he communicates audibly. Given then that he was created by an Englishman who insisted emphatically that the character be modeled after another Englishman, it's only a natural leap to think that he might have an English accent. At any rate, it's hardly egregious to have an actor with such an accent portray him.
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There's that. But given that comics don't use sound, I also wouldn't be surprised if no one gave it any thought. Ah well. It's not a big deal either way.
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- Amizon, Commander Shepard, Ellie, Rinoa Heartilly, Xena, Clara Oswald, Gamora, Lana Kane, Tifa Lockhart, Jodie Holmes, Chloe Price.
I don't know, I tend not to write anything off before it's been aired. That doesn't necessarily mean I think it's going to be the best thing ever either, but I'm intrigued at the very least.
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Thanks for the good memories.
The Lucifer comic has a pretty serious tone to it, this seems to be more on the quirky/goofy side. Reminds me more of Buffy or Supernatural than the Lucifer I know. I'm surprised Fox of all stations picked that title for a series.
Worst comes to worst I'll just do what I always do and pretend it's something completely different,...because it's shaping up that way.
We'll see.
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When was "Buffy" not serious?
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Just watched the pilot finally.
It's not bad, but there's certainly room for a lot of improvement. As previously discussed, it is quite quirky and cheesy, but then there are a few moments of seriousness. Will be interesting to see how the season progresses.
It's not bad, but there's certainly room for a lot of improvement. As previously discussed, it is quite quirky and cheesy, but then there are a few moments of seriousness. Will be interesting to see how the season progresses.