New Scan - On The Way to a Smile/Denzel Chapter OVA

[OWA-2]

[quote author=Dacon link=topic=537.msg21631#msg21631 date=1235337789]
I don't give a shit about the "new generation" and plenty of heroes fight on well into their later years. Shit reason for the "new generation" to take on the fight.

The whole point of Avalanche fighting is so the next generation won't have to live their lives that way.

I'm sick of people trying to make these minor, after thought characters important. I DON'T GIVE A FLYING SHIT ABOUT THEM.

THIS IS FF7, IT SHOULDN'T BE ABOUT SOME SHITTY CHARACTER MADE UP FOR A DULL AS FUCK MOVIE. The idea of Marlene becoming a fighter or whatever is absurd and shits all over her too.[/quote]

 

[IndianaoftheJones]

[quote author=Tetsujin link=topic=537.msg21638#msg21638 date=1235339263]
Why do we even need a new generation when the old generation is currently in their mid-twenties? And no, I don't want a time jump ten or twenty years ahead in a sequel =o
[/quote]
Because apparently Square thinks we want younger and younger heroes. The next game will probably have a fetus running around.

 

[Tennyo]

Well I think that's just what's popular in Japan. Obviously they are going to cater to the wants and needs of their home country first.

 

[Max Payne]

[quote author=IndianaoftheJones link=topic=537.msg21683#msg21683 date=1235354072]
[quote author=Tetsujin link=topic=537.msg21638#msg21638 date=1235339263]
Why do we even need a new generation when the old generation is currently in their mid-twenties? And no, I don't want a time jump ten or twenty years ahead in a sequel =o
[/quote]
Because apparently Square thinks we want younger and younger heroes. The next game will probably have a fetus running around.
[/quote]

That's what other games in the FF series are for. Not the compilation.

Well I think that's just what's popular in Japan. Obviously they are going to cater to the wants and needs of their home country first.

I really don't think Japan wants Denzel to be the main character either. Dumb idea is dumb imo.

 

[Tennyo]

I wasn't talking about Denzel specifically. I was talking about young heroes in general.

But I agree. I want Cloud to remain in the front seat with Denzel just being a kid.

 

[IndianaoftheJones]

Denzel needs to shut up and drink his damn tea.

 

[Ravynne Nevyrmore]

[FF7ACC: VJ from new information, OVA is a novel, "Denzel Hen"! Additional episodes Marine]
"FINAL FANTASY VII ADVENT CHILDREN COMPLETE" from, V to jump on the new information. OVA will be included in the main knitting say, the novel "On The Way to a Smile", "Denzel Chapter" that the OVA is included in the! This is fun! The main knitting is that the episode has been added to the marine cloud! (Memo to the national expected: her) (22:15)

Knitting! AWESOME!

 

[Tennyo]

Wait, what? That makes no sense...

 

[Strangelove]

'Main knitting' = main feature (AC)

It doesn't really mean 'knitting' here, it's 'chapter' (the 'hen' in 'Denzel hen&#39.

Anyway, the studio has been announced as A-1 Pictures and BeSTACK.

A-1 Pictures have worked on TV series such as Kuroshitsuji and Persona: Trinity Soul and the upcoming Valkyria Chronicles series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-1_Pictures
http://www.a1p.jp/

BeStacks seem to be some kind of planning/production company, as far as I can tell.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=42
http://www.bestack.co.jp/

Photo of a Dengeki PS magazine article:
http://tifa.jp/cgi-bin/src/ff7ac1475.jpg

Taken from FF7AC Reunion:
http://ff7ac.hotcafe.to/

 

[Tetsujin]

I prefer "main knitting", thank you very much.

Hmm, they should make an anime out of all the OTWTAS chapters imo.

 

[Ravynne Nevyrmore]

I figured the "knitting" translation was just Google translations fucking up.

I WANT A GAME ABOUT KNITTING, DAMN IT.

 

[Tennyo]

Aww no more Madhouse?

Also does there happen to be an actual scan of that magazine article anywhere?

 

[Nocturne]

Because apparently Square thinks we want younger and younger heroes. The next game will probably have a fetus running around.

For some reason, that made me laugh quite a bit.

Awesome on the animation group though. The new Valkyrie Chronicles anime looks awesome.

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

[quote author=Nocturne link=topic=537.msg24051#msg24051 date=1235767200]

Because apparently Square thinks we want younger and younger heroes. The next game will probably have a fetus running around.

For some reason, that made me laugh quite a bit.
[/quote]

Made me laugh too But honestly i'm getting sick of these 10 and 12 year olds saving the world even if it is a fantasy game I would be more I guess comfortable with a 20 something year old character killing the baddies

Also..well after reading the case of denzel i doubt they're even going to put all of the main FFVII characters in the OVA which is a major blow off.

 

[IndianaoftheJones]

Of course there weren't that many in the first OVA. I think at this point it's best for the fans to make up their mind about two years later.

 

[ForceStealer]

[quote author=VivaLaValenwind link=topic=537.msg24752#msg24752 date=1235873479]But honestly i'm getting sick of these 10 and 12 year olds saving the world even if it is a fantasy game[/quote]

That's actually one of my favorite aspects of Final Fantasy VII. The hero is 21, that's over the hill it seems in most JRPGs and anime. IMO, you can't give a character a very good back story if they've only just hit puberty.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Backstory, who needs that? Onion did perfectly well without it!

But yeah, older main characters, other party members can be younger, but you need a hero you can believe has the training/experience. Unless the entire point is that they don't, but even then, it helps to have such a figure present.

 

[Max Payne]

Yeah, Cloud may not have been a SOLDIER, but he was in the military and knew how to fight. He wasn't some 13 year old who suddenly got magic powers and knew how to fight against professional soldiers.

 

[Strangelove]

IMO, you can't give a character a very good back story if they've only just hit puberty.

Unless it's not the backstory that's important

I've heard that Japan likes young heroes because they like a coming-of-age story where the character grows up. Obviously that's not always the case, and maybe was just someone's opinion

Plus, 12-6 years is a lot of time for backstory-forming trauma

 

[Restless]

Too bad most of those traumatic childhoods are either an "OMG I watched my parents get killed" or "OMG I'm an orphan no one cares about" backstory. Really, once they weed out the cliché stuff, the stuff too mature for the game, and the stuff that's just stupid, what is there? Older characters work out better, IMO. FFVII was cool about that, especially 'cause we had a few characters in their thirties and the rest in their 20's. Only Yuffie and Red XIII were younger, and Red was only younger mentally.

And, well...There's already been a fetus villian

Spoiler

In the Okami game, the "master of darkness" that you fight at the end turns out to be this fetus-looking thing in a glass ball. No joke.

 

[Tennyo]

Younger mentally isn't really a big deal, especially since Red XIII was in his forties.

Also thank you for the Okami spoiler, because all of us have totally beaten that game. :/

 

[Ryushikaze]

It's still worth playing the rest, because the final boss doesn't play a big role in the overall story.

 

[ForceStealer]

[quote author=hitoshura link=topic=537.msg25083#msg25083 date=1235937683]Plus, 12-6 years is a lot of time for backstory-forming trauma
[/quote]

Yes, which 98% of the time ends up as them being an orphan. Lo and behold, what's Denzel's backstory? Even all of Cloud's trauma didn't happen until he was 16.

I'm with Dacon here, characters like Cloud and Cecil actually HAVE military training and have some basis in their ability, not just pure prodigy-dom a-la Sora (the nature of KH makes having a prepubescent hero more tolerable though).

But I know it is just a cultural thing, the two msot popular anime in the US, after all, are Trigun and Cowboy Bebop. Spike is...I dunno, 20-something? And Vash is 100+ though admittedly acts kinda immature. Makes me wonder what caused them to make the FF7 staff so "old."

 

[Dark and Divine]

[quote author=ForceStealer link=topic=537.msg25551#msg25551 date=1235994177]

But I know it is just a cultural thing, the two msot popular anime in the US, after all, are Trigun and Cowboy Bebop. Spike is...I dunno, 20-something? And Vash is 100+ though admittedly acts kinda immature. Makes me wonder what caused them to make the FF7 staff so "old."
[/quote]

Maybe is due to the fact that FFVII's story, according to the Early Files, was

Spoiler

going to happen in New York and opening with a cop named Joe pursuiting some criminals

or something like that. Due to this more mature content, maybe they decided to make FFVII's a bit older than the average FF heroes.

 

[Restless]

[quote author=Tennyo link=topic=537.msg25409#msg25409 date=1235963256]
Younger mentally isn't really a big deal, especially since Red XIII was in his forties.

Also thank you for the Okami spoiler, because all of us have totally beaten that game. :/
[/quote]

Being younger mentally matters, because it forms the basis for actions and responses. In terms of fighting, it won't matter as much, though.

Sorry for the spoiler (I've hidden it now), but it's just that Okami has been out for years. Not to mention I haven't actually mentioned the true ending, nor have I explained the character's full appearance (his appearance isn't just that). I wouldn't delve that deeply into the game. So, you're really not missing anything.