Nier

[Interslicery]

shit not cared. moving on.

 

[Max Payne]

shit not cared. moving on.

Then don't post?

 

[ForceStealer]

It wouldn't be a Square Enix game without a monstrously oversized sword, I guess.

Eh, as far as Japanese game companies go, I think SE is actually a little tame in that regard, the Buster Sword being their only TOTAL offender.

For example, Monster Hunter. Though I've never played it:

And, of course, the only thing better than a Buster Sword is one with hair, I guess

 

[Cthulhu]

O hey, Monster Hunter's supposed to be good, was it ever released in Yurp?

 

[Purple]

Okay. Couldn't they come up with a more original design for the sword.

 

[haichinamie]

SE and action games don't seem to mix well.

 

[KuraudoStrife]

The game will be called Nier, according to the Official Xbox Magazine. The game will be out in 2010 for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Let's wait for further information at E3.

 

[Alex]

SE and games don't really seem to be mixing too well at the minute either, lets be frank.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

It's true. Remember the good-old days when the Final Fantasy games rolled off the conveyor belt like they were going out of style? Well now they are - SE teases us with little tidbits of info while wasting their time making games that probably will be good but not worth the wait, and in the meantime they make half-assed re-releases like Final Mix+ and International Zodiac system.

Outright remakes like IV and III, fine, but I don't want to see them waste time with "enhanced re-releases". FF6 Advance was cool, but in the end it was just FF6 with a few new Espers and a new translation, which at some points sucked. Plus, the PS ports of those games, with those painfully long load times it's just not worth it when the Advance releases came out not long after.

SE needs to get its ass in gear and get back on track.

 

[Purple]

It's all about the money, son.

 

[Makoeyes987]

It's true. Remember the good-old days when the Final Fantasy games rolled off the conveyor belt like they were going out of style? Well now they are - SE teases us with little tidbits of info while wasting their time making games that probably will be good but not worth the wait, and in the meantime they make half-assed re-releases like Final Mix+ and International Zodiac system.

Outright remakes like IV and III, fine, but I don't want to see them waste time with "enhanced re-releases". FF6 Advance was cool, but in the end it was just FF6 with a few new Espers and a new translation, which at some points sucked. Plus, the PS ports of those games, with those painfully long load times it's just not worth it when the Advance releases came out not long after.

SE needs to get its ass in gear and get back on track.

Yeah, that's probably because it takes more time to develop games for consoles now. And then that's on top of the wait for localizing as well.

You actually believe it takes the same amount of time developing for the PS3, X-Box 360, PSP and DS, like it did to develop for the SNES and Playstation/PS2, and Gameboy?

And the FF Advance series is probably the best way young new gamers...you know..the kids they make the games for, will ever get a chance to play the games we played a decade ago, since most of them are out of production and for consoles no longer sold in stores.

 

[Ⓐaron]

While games certainly do take longer to develop these days, that doesn't change the fact that Square Enix is putting a lot more resources into stuff that really has nothing to do with Final Fantasy as well.

 

[Max Payne]

Honestly, a lot of other companies are cracking out games for the 360 and ps3 pretty fast, and quality games too.

I can't help but feel like SE would be releasing newer FF games more often if they concentrated on only a few titles at once instead of spreading everything so thin(or so it seems).

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well Square Enix isn't just about FF. The gaming industry has expanded and they need to to have more than 3 signature series under their belts. They have other franchises to worry about now. They can't just...ride on FF each year and expect to be profitable. They'd never be able to make a profit that way given how many games other developers release a year.

And yeah there are Dacon, but are they all Japanese companies? A US developer is gonna release games here in the US much faster since they don't have a localization step to go through. Games from SE are not only having to be made but also fully localized and shit for us.

And they aren't really spreading themselves thin anymore than any other company. The last game we had to wait a really long ass time for was FFXII, and that was probably more due to one of the main developers dying mid-way than anything else. You're acting like this company is Nintendo now

Hell, FFXIII should be coming very soon with the concurrent localization and development going on.

 

[Max Payne]

Japanese and Western developers are doing it mako.

And yeah they are, plenty of other developers focus on one major title, with a maybe two more in development by a completely different team. SE is multitasking a lot of projects.

And why can't FF carry SE? Gears has been carrying epic, Metal Gear Konami, and Resident Evil Capcom.

Before you say it, Capcom has already done enough looking into it to see that RE is their most profitable franchise.

 

[Tiefenrausch]

Let them do what they want.
FFXIII is about to come sooner or later, and if Squex thinks the time has come for another (shitty or not) action game...that's artistic freedom.
Imagine if they would only make FF games - I can hear many people complain about the spin-offs, me included - that'd be boring as well.

 

[Makoeyes987]

They really don't appear like they're spread too thin. They release their major releases in Japan and US 5 months apart for localization. That's their pattern they've kept too. Sometimes its sooner. The only game they really had to delay that I recall is FFXII and again, that's thanks to one of their main designers and creators, Matsuno having to bow out due to health. FFXII is really the only game they had a serious delay in in terms of development.

 

[Max Payne]

SE hasn't released a single main FF yet on main consoles from their flagship teams. Mistwalker has already done 2 this generation and they're already working on their next. Both solid, fun, entertaining games.

SE has lost their pace man. They've just been slow to the catch this generation. They've been making a shitload of revenue from handheld ports and remakes though.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Didn't SE say they were hesitant with the PS3 and Blu-Ray market to begin with?

And while the current next-gen console has yet to see a FF game, that doesn't mean they've lost pace with all of the other game's they've released. And you're forgetting their releases for the Wii, dude. They've been focusing heavily on Crystal Chronicles - The Crystal Bearers, their first full fledged RPG on the Wii. All this shows is a shift in focus. Not a loss of pace. Because all of their other works and stuff have been on target and consistent.

 

[Max Payne]

Didn't SE say they were hesitant with the PS3 and Blu-Ray market to begin with

They still alienated the huge market the 360 had for no real reason.
And you're forgetting their releases for the Wii, dude. They've been focusing heavily on Crystal Chronicles - The Crystal Bearers, their first full fledged RPG on the Wii. All this shows is a shift in focus. Not a loss of pace. Because all of their other works and stuff have been on target and consistent.

Ok. They've release one wii game while all other major companies have released multiple titles on both the 360 and wii.

SE just isn't cranking out titles like they used to. It's been a whole lot of remakes and ports these days. Last remnant wasn't even made by SE, just published by them. I haven't mentioned Crisis Core because that's a portable game and a spinoff though.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Eh, well again. Shift in focus. Not a slow down or inability to keep up. Once FFXIII gets released I'm sure we'll be seeing more stuff for it. There's VS right after. And then KH3. And who knows what.

 

[Max Payne]

It is a slow down man. The Ps3 and 360 have been out for almost 5 years, and they don't have anything.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well I guess we'll see for sure when FFXIII comes out. If they end up taking over 9000 years over to release Versus then clearly there will be a problem.

 

[Max Payne]

They said they were developing these games at the same time didn't they?

That'd explain why it's taking as long as it has.

 

[Cthulhu]

It is a slow down man. The Ps3 and 360 have been out for almost 5 years, and they don't have anything.

* 2.5 years (PS3) / 3.5 years (360), kthx.

And yeah, it's pretty slow for their major titles. Keep in mind though that AAA titles for the current-day consoles will take three years to make, and Square's doing two at the same time for the major consoles. Their last major FF title was released only a few months before the PS3 was released, so they also had to spend some time getting to know the new console - everyone did btw, so that's not really an excuse. But look at another AAA title, Killzone 2. It was announced at the E3 of 2005, where they already had a tech demo, and released almost four years later. That's four years of development since first announcement, not counting the time they took to make the tech demo - which could also have taken a year or so with a small team, but I'm not sure about that.

So yeh. XIII was announced at the E3 2006, a year after Killzone, and according to the latest news, it'll be released in 2010. So in that aspect, it's nothing later than, say, Killzone 2, which probably has the same sales figures as XIII and Versus. And that's from a company that, besides from a PSP game, hasn't released anything else in between their two major games (afaik, and I'm probably misinformed here).