OMG Final Fantasy 7 is ruined

[1rstClassSoldier]

Now if your not familiar with this game by now or have not beaten it, well it’s been out for a while so no spoilers

https://screenrant.com/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-ff7-aerith-death-scene/

So if that’s the case, what made this game great has now been changed, is it still Final Fantasy 7?

 

[Eerie]

Lol all I see is speculation, and given the hints in Remake, Aerith's definitely going to die, sorry.

I mean, a story of loss without loss, that would be funky.

 

[null]

Claim:

FF7 Remake part 3 is in development, and the story (so far) is set up for Aerith to still be alive.

Proof:

In the FF7 Rebirth trailer, it seems that Sephiroth is more interested in ruling the planet than destroying it. If that's true, then there's no motive for him to kill Aerith.

Conclusion:

 

[SilverArrow20XX]

He never wanted to destroy the planet.
He wanted to turn it into his personal space ship.
"What I want, Cloud, is to sail the darkness of the cosmos with this Planet as my vessel -- just as my mother did long ago."

 

[ForceStealer]

Well, that was his backup plan. The first plan would have left it where it is (relatively speaking), but rule it by way of wiping everything out, absorbing the lifestream, and remaking the world as he saw fit and rule over that.

Both plans, however, involved destroying the planet first. (or at least razing it.)

 

[Verena]

Yea without Aeris being a personal enemy of sephy the game looses the main dramatic point. And cloud being the protector of his friends, namely aeris/tifa and othen the others. I dislike se bringing a new ff7 game instead of remaking only the graphic and bringing the rest as the original had. And they would have done it years earlier after acc came out. So almost everybody had almost forgotten ff7 by now before it came out as part 1.

 

[SilverArrow20XX]

Right, but the destroying part is just kind of happenstance.
He wants to open up a wound in the planet so he can absorb the Lifestream.
It's a means to an end, and not his goal in itself.

 

[Verena]

So as aerith was the key figure and main ally of the planet, so was sephy/jenova combination
Cloud as protector of his troop, mainly protector of aeris, the planets agent. Thats how i understood ff7
And ofc the fight against the shinra cooperation and the turks
So sephy has taken over jenovas goal to take over the planet with his own strength, combined with jenovas strength
Like that

 

[Eerie]

I really don't understand your point at all.

All we have is Remake, which ends at Midgar, and a trailer which is clearly done to mislead people. I don't know how you can conclude anything about what's going to happen in Rebirth or even the third game.

 

[Rhoey]

I for one am totally cool with Aerith living.

Tifa, on the other hand...

Yes, YEEEEES. I CAN FEEL YOUR ANGER. STRIKE ME DOWN WITH YOUR HATRED!

 

[null]

Does that mean you’re not cool with Tifa living? Why?

 

[Rhoey]

Does that mean you’re not cool with Tifa living? Why?

I phrased that wrong. To clarify: no, I love Tifa. What I meant is that I wouldn't mind if the plot twist would be that Sephiroth kills Tifa instead to break Cloud's psyche. Not saying I WANT that to happen, but I wouldn't mind if that was the case. I know that I will likely be crucified for that opinion, but I don't care, lol.

 

[Verena]

Cuz if tifa would die, cloud can go with aeris instead of tiffa?
But sephyroth has no need to kill tiffa. His main threat is aerith, who can summon holy against his meteor. In the end the lifestream of the planet does it herself with aeris in it

 

[Rhoey]

Cuz if tifa would die, cloud can go with aeris instead of tiffa?

Not everything is about shipping. No, that is not why. I couldn't care less about the LTD. There's a theory that Seph might go after Tifa instead of Aerith, because he knows that killing Aerith isn't effective and Cloud will defeat him anyway. It's just a theory, but a theory I am not opposed. In fact, I find it interesting.

 

[Verena]

Cloud only defeated seph with help of his friends, alltogether, or wouldnt you think so?
And in the end the planet itself killed seph/jenovas meteor with lifestream and aeris in it

 

[KindOfBlue]

Killing Tifa instead of Aerith just reeks of laziness to me and trivializes the death scene because “oh, let’s just swap the girls out”…not to mention Sephiroth killing Aerith wasn’t just for the sake of screwing with Cloud, it was to prevent Holy from being summoned and killing Tifa wouldn’t remove Aerith as a threat

 

[Verena]

What i also remember is, not so exactly, was aeris from the promised land, which seph (who is probably incarnated with jenovas mind) searches, where he wants to destroy and kill the ancient race, where aeris is derived from as part of this ancient race. And shinra plus the turk gang also wanna get there
Like that

 

[ForceStealer]

Yeah if the theory is that Sephiroth's trying to do something different to ensure his victory where his first plan failed, his only real option is to just kill Aerith sooner, lol

 

[KindOfBlue]

Not to reignite the similarly controversial “Cloud killing Aerith” theory, but I wonder if Sephiroth’s plan would’ve worked out if Cloud just wasn’t able to resist Jenova long enough for Aerith to finish her prayer

 

[Rhoey]

We'll see where it goes, I'm just along for the ride and enjoy throwing around ideas, no matter how outrageous they sound. Smoke a doobie or take a deep breath and chill out, guys. ? It's just a game, lol. That's the point I'm making. I'm not attached to the story playing out exactly as in OG, even though I grew up playing FFVII, but lots of people act like football hooligans. I don't mind a fresh take on the story and being surprised. But sure, it's also risky, because it may not turn out to be good. But that's what art IS; it's about taking risks and pushing boundaries, not about staying in the comfort zone with what's familiar.

 

[Verena]

Not everything is about shipping. No, that is not why. I couldn't care less about the LTD. There's a theory that Seph might go after Tifa instead of Aerith, because he knows that killing Aerith isn't effective and Cloud will defeat him anyway. It's just a theory, but a theory I am not opposed. In fact, I find it interesting.

What yer mean by shipping and ltd? I dont understand the words

 

[Eerie]

What i also remember is, not so exactly, was aeris from the promised land, which seph (who is probably incarnated with jenovas mind) searches, where he wants to destroy and kill the ancient race, where aeris is derived from as part of this ancient race. And shinra plus the turk gang also wanna get there
Like that

Mmh, I don't think Sephiroth ever searched for the promised land; the promised land is where one's happiness lies. For the Cetras, it was found in death because they could finally rest from a live of hardships - Ifalna told Aerith that one day she'd get out of Midgar and find her promised land too. It was the biggest hint at her fate in the OG.

Shinra, on the other hand, is persuaded that the promised land is filled with mako energy, so they are looking for it.

Sephiroth "just" wants to control the Lifestream and the Planet lol.

Not to reignite the similarly controversial “Cloud killing Aerith” theory, but I wonder if Sephiroth’s plan would’ve worked out if Cloud just wasn’t able to resist Jenova long enough for Aerith to finish her prayer

IIRC, Aerith did summon Holy, but it was blocked by Sephiroth. In that, her death is truly meaningless because she doesn't need to be dead to summon Holy.

We'll see where it goes, I'm just along for the ride and enjoy throwing around ideas, no matter how outrageous they sound. Smoke a doobie or take a deep breath and chill out, guys. ? It's just a game, lol. That's the point I'm making. I'm not attached to the story playing out exactly as in OG, even though I grew up playing FFVII, but lots of people act like football hooligans. I don't mind a fresh take on the story and being surprised. But sure, it's also risky, because it may not turn out to be good. But that's what art IS; it's about taking risks and pushing boundaries, not about staying in the comfort zone with what's familiar.

I'm personally opened to change, and I think they might happen a lot in the last part especially. However, I also believe that they're rewriting the OG too - there are enough hints about this in Remake, but also the way they treat Aerith and Tifa especially, that shows me that some bullet points of the OG are going to be the exact same way, Whispers or not (namely: Aerith's death, the LS scene and the high affection Highwind scene have all been hinted at). Watch them retell the same story just to tell us "yeah it was the good ending, sorry you hoped".

 

[Verena]

But seph knows his mother jenova was insecrated by the ancient cetra race thousand years ago and wants to revenge her. Cetra were the race who populated gaia before the human race, who lived in unification with the planet and its mako, while the human race, in front of them the shinra cooperation, exploited the planet by draining its mako energy. The promised land should be the lifestream, where every dead body is going to.

 

[Roger]

If Sephiroth's plans changed to extent that the circumstances that led to Aerith's death no longer happen then i guess Meteorfall doesn't happen, he doesn't need the Black Materia. We don't need to go to the Temple of the Ancients, ectera. Even though Sephiroth is plagueing the party with visions of Meteorfall throughout the Remake. Obviously that is not the case. They might make changes but there's no reason to believe Sephiroth's new characterisation has led to the cause and effect that led to Aerith's death being removed, screenrant just put out a clickbait article as it is wont to do.

 

[Rhoey]

If you say so. I'll roll with it, whatever "it" is. ?