Skyfall & Spectre

AvecAloes

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Really. How can I focus on the deliciousness of Daniel Craig the story and enjoy what should be beautiful cinematography/choreography if I can't focus on anything because the cameraman is apparently being chased by African killer bees?
 

Hisako

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But dont you get it

it's visceral and engaging from a first-person-like perspective



:awesome:
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
It's a shitty means of hiding poor choreography behind even poorer post-recording effects, :monster:. This made Transporter 3 completely unwatchable, for example, and didn't do the Bourne movies much good either (iirc).
 

ForceStealer

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It's a shitty means of hiding poor choreography behind even poorer post-recording effects, :monster:. This made Transporter 3 completely unwatchable, for example, and didn't do the Bourne movies much good either (iirc).

Exquisitely put, could not agree more.
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Batman didnt fair well in most of the movies either.

The stupid swooping and shaking cam is totally absent in Rises, but you notice how flat and weak the hand to hand action scenes are without it.

It just looks like two middle aged cosplayers slap fighting to the death.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
I've hated it in every movie that didn't use it the way it's supposed to (sparingly), which is to say, all of them. But I was particularly crestfallen when it was all over Quantum of Solace, Bond was supposed to be a refuge, movies that you could always watch knowing you'd get to see a lot of great hand to hand, gun, and car chase choreography. And then comes Quantum of Solace and I have no idea what happened.

In addition to looking cheap and headache inducing, another thing it does is makes action scenes completely unmemorable. Just to stick within the same series, the first Bourne movie has several memorable fights, the fight in the apartment with the pen, and that Mini chase. In the next two when they dialed it up to 11, I couldn't tell you anything that specifically happened in one scene.

It's funny how the Matrix OD'ed on bullet time so you saw EVERY SINGLE THING that happened in a fight, it got overused, and so now they just skip everything. If I had to choose I'll take the former every time, at least you have to choreograph something for that.


However, the short action clips in this trailer all look better, and apparently the director is someone who's done legitimate action scenes before, so I have hope.
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
fwiw, I liked the Matrix with the time / speed variations and the excellent choreography and detailing and whatnot, :monster:. On a similar note, Equilibrium, even though that one had, alas, only three significant action sequences.

This now the general action movie shittyness thread.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
I've hated it in every movie that didn't use it the way it's supposed to (sparingly), which is to say, all of them. But I was particularly crestfallen when it was all over Quantum of Solace, Bond was supposed to be a refuge, movies that you could always watch knowing you'd get to see a lot of great hand to hand, gun, and car chase choreography. And then comes Quantum of Solace and I have no idea what happened.

I noticed the shakycam here and there but there were a few action moments that seemed pretty solid, I think.

It's funny how the Matrix OD'ed on bullet time so you saw EVERY SINGLE THING that happened in a fight, it got overused, and so now they just skip everything. If I had to choose I'll take the former every time, at least you have to choreograph something for that.

Also see: Zack Snyder :monster:
 

Geostigma

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gabe
btw are they going to bring back the Quantum arc or

just leave that shit hangin' like a dumbass

The majority of the cast and most notably Daniel Craig himself, have stated that they were "done" with the "unknown organization" story and were sick and tired of it by the time Quantum of Solace finished.

I would be really surprised if Skyfall continued that story.
 

Hisako

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Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
btw does anyone have any feelings about the new theme opener

I'm kinda meh about it
 

Lex

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I think it fits in well with the old classical Bond themes. Critics are going to love it because Adele = very British and so is Bond. *shrugs*

Going to see this tomorrow night. So excite. So very excite.
 

AvecAloes

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I didn't think I'd like it when I first heard that Adele was doing it, but now that I've listened to it, I can say that I don't think it's bad. It's not the crazy rocking mash of Jack White and Alicia Keys (I freaking love that song, it's so messy and gritty and hnnngh), but I think that it fits with Bond.
 

Lex

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Lol didn't actually get to go see it, because for some reason I thought it was out and it isn't. *self facepalm*

But going to an advanced screening in a couple of weeks so looking forward to that.
 

Lex

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Booked my tickets for Friday with another 007 enthusiast from my uni class. We now have quite a big group of people going, and I can't even express how excited I am. More excited than I should be, probably.

JAMES BOND FHTAGN!!!
 

Lex

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Woooooooooooo Skyfall in the morning/ kind of.

First sleep, then awaken, then lab taimu for phage innoculation stuffs, then Skyfall taimu. I'm probably more excited than I should be but good reasons:

I love James Bond movies.
I love Daniel Craig.
The Character of M & Judi Dench in general.
Espionage is awesome.
I've had a stressful week.
I'm going with cool people from my uni class.

:monster:

I will of course post a full review when I get home ^_^. Spoiler tagged obvs.
 

Lex

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Spoilers will be tagged.

ATTENTION ALL PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE UK:

Avoid UK news sites/ all Skyfall reviews and go and see Skyfall the minute it comes out if you want to stay unspoiled.

I'm tempted not to write much and just encourage everyone to go and see it. Normally I'd be worried about talking it up too much, but me and 5 other uni friends have just been whispering "Skyfall" as we pass by each other in the lab all week, being overly excited and I was worried that this would ruin it (overhype and all that).

It didn't. It was amazing, like REALLY amazing. Definitely my favourite movie of like the past 5 or 6 years. I went in completely unspoiled and I'm pretty sure I would have been a bit disappointed if I had been spoiled.

Gonna rant about bits I remember below, but I'm warning you, don't read the spoilers because they're HUGE - I'm not talking about small stuff.

I seriously cannot talk this movie up enough. The intro is excellent, then the opening sequence is really well done. Beautiful car chases everywhere <3

The general focus is on M and Bond's relationship, and a lot of the interaction between them is unspoken but so well done it's unreal. Due in large part to the awesomeness of both Judi Dench and Daniel Craig. I absolutely loved this aspect of the whole thing, I was moved by their relationship, especially the parts toward the end.

The villain is just pure brilliant. It's like old Bond, only improved. He used to work for MI6 and was M's "favourite" until 2006 when she gave him up, so the plot is deeply deeply personal. I was impressed by his performance. When he's got Bond tied to the chair and starts kind of feeling him up it was really uncomfortable, but I must admit I got a bit giddy when Bond said "who said it's my first time?" - Bi-Bond insinuations FTW, got some nice headcanon from that line. Even if it was just meant as a joke :desu:

Q IS FANTASTIC. Seriously, the things you doubt about the actor being Q are all pointed out by Bond and handled incredibly well, and I really love him as a new character.

Was really chuffed with Ralph Fiennes's role in the movie - what a great way to introduce a character. I love it when you think someone's going to be an asshole and they turn out to be awesome.

Similarly with the other "main" MI6 agent who is likeable and present throughout the movie - is introduced as MONEYPENNY. EPIC MOMENT.

But oh, oh the tears I literally shed towards the end. Bond and M travelling up to Scotland to the place where Bond grew up (Skyfall, a house in the middle of beautiful Scottish highlands) to fight with the villain, the focus on Bond's background being the title left ambiguous until almost the very end. And M dying. I was literally so shocked and sad because Judi Dench is IMO the best M ever and she's been a part of the Bond movies for such a long long time. It was really sad. And Bond's reaction. Omg, actual creys. I've never been upset at a human character dying in a movie before.

Which paved the way for Ralph Fiennes to be introduced as the new M. OMFG how amazing.

And there are loads of little things throughout the movie that are just an amazing tribute to the series, Bond uncovering a retro Aston Martin to drive M up to Scotland, MI6 being blown up and M's porcelain British dog that Bond hates surviving, that she leaves for him in her will.

Just amazing.
 
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