So where do we stand on the big remake mystery now?

What is going on with Zack?

  • He's in an alternate timeline, and we'll follow his adventures there, similar to a Laguna approach.

    Votes: 9 18.0%
  • He's in an alternate timeline, and eventually he will find a way to cross over to the main one.

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • He's dead and in the lifestream, shown by the constant pure white backgrounds.

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • He's in the main timeline with Cloud and co!

    Votes: 22 44.0%
  • He's in the main timeline but he's a ghost, that is why no one in the church reacts to him.

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Total voters
    50

cold_spirit

he/him
AKA
Alex T
The game (Part 3) could potentially go on for even longer than what we normally played in the OG game. Is this something similar to how your interpreting or imagining it?

Nomura told Famitsu in July that “The reason we didn’t announce how many parts there would be until now was because we were considering whether it would be a trilogy or a two-part series...”

That would imply to me that the rest of the original game's story after Midgar almost fit into one more game. Which is wild to think about.

By splitting the remaining story into two parts, we can expect events to be expanded, but it also allows room for new content. I think that the Remake Project's mysteries will continue to build until the very end and, as you suggested, the finale will receive the greatest expansion.

As for how I think they'll approach multiple universes in their storytelling (I prefer to say "universes" instead of "timelines" to avoid confusion with time travel), I think they'll confirm the existence of a multiverse, but we'll really only follow the events of the Beagle and Terrier universes as they're the most important.

I find the question of "how is there more than one planet, more than one sun, more than one lifestream" to be an interesting one. I wonder, did the Spider-Verse face a similar question at some point? I have no clue if the Remake Project will provide a lore reason for why there's multiple universes, or if it'll just be presented a fact with no further elaboration, but I do know how I'd approach it.

(The rest of this post is just stuff I've said here before)

There's a cyclical theme of "life and death" running throughout FFVII. The original game presented this on a planetary scale, Dirge of Cerberus expanded it to include the cosmos, and I think the Remake Project will stretch it further to include reality itself. Much like how humans are part of the planet, and planets are part of the universe, I think it'll be revealed that the universe is part of something even greater.

And like humans and planets, universes are born at different times. This could be how the party's escape from Midgar in December is happening simultaneously with Zack's last stand in September. I don't know why the Whispers are working to ensure the big events of the original game are followed in each universe, but that's the conclusion I've come to after reviewing Remake many, many times. Even the Ultimania presents the goal of the Whispers as one of four new "mysteries" for players to ponder. Only time will tell.

Finally, and I've shared this before and will continue to do so, the Material Ultimania names the universes shown during the Edge of Creation scene as the angelic "dying universe" and red "universe that will be born" (translation by TurquoiseHammer). We can see that cyclical theme of "life and death" right there. For me, that was the final piece of evidence I needed to be truly confident in my theory.
 
Last edited:

Eerie

Fire and Blood
From what I remember the more games was rather a Nojima thing as he wanted to add locations feom the compilation. But definitely it’s going to leave them more space to polish the games.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
My thought is that the Zack we see is alive and from an alternate timeline, and while we will get an interaction from him, he's not going to cross over, or if he does only partly. I figure there's going to be more scenes of him and if we interact with him it'll probably be in one of the nexus points like from the end of Pt 1.

Time travel and a multiverse are already things that exist in the greater FF lore (FF1, FFTactics, FFTA1-2, etc. etc. etc.), I suspect that while the main plot of Remake will be the same, we may get more of a metaplot explaining Sephiroth of the Nexus's actual plans and how Whispers and Terrier!Zack tie into it.
 

jeangl123

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Jean
No. EC is a faithful retelling of the entire Compilation. No time travelling.



Interesting... But like I said, he uses the belt in EC, and also in one of Cloud's visions/flashbacks in Remake(we see a glimpse of Sephiroth standing in front of Jenova's tank, in Nibelheim).
Fcw_MwhX0AAWa0W

EC also has Angeal wearing the buster sword wrong so I'm not sure how important those designs might be.
1663629184206.jpeg
 
Last edited:

AerithLives

Pro Adventurer
They are butchering this remake series. First the fate ghosts flying around running every moment in the original remake then that utterly moronic ending. All so they can shoe horn Zack in the game. Personally, I have never liked Zack. I think he was more powerful that a dark secret you discover in the bottom of the Shinra Mansion.
 

Roundhouse

Pro Adventurer
The outcome of this poll is very interesting. Almost an even split between alternate timeline and main timeline...
 

LNK

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Nate
I'd like to add. Even though I think he's dead, and in the lifestream, that also would mean he's in the same timeline
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
Interesting theory I saw the other day: Zack is indeed dead, but what we see in the trailer is Cloud hallucinating. That would be interesting - imagine if he hallucinated Zack helping him to go to Midgar until the last moment; the feather represents him who has ascended to the sky like at the end of CC and watches over Cloud. To her, the church moment Zack is in the Lifestream and when Aerith sees him, he's about to be shot by 3 troopers who followed them like in the OG.

Anyway, I thought I'd share because I do think it could fit.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
AKA
Smooth Criminal
There will always be questions and cliffhangers but I imagine there will be greater clarity of what the story's direction is during the second act.

Part 3 will be the conclusion.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LNK
Top Bottom