Weiss’ Deaths from the virus and as Omega Weiss

[The Twilight Mexican]

The creators just said so, as I've posted. The real Omega wouldn't just jump ship with the planet's blood for no reason and literally try to kill it.

I didn't get that impression from the quotes you posted, honestly. I just got the impression that the fact that this Omega wasn't born of a completely pure stream and the fact that it was incited artificially makes it "corrupt" and a cause of devestation.

OWA-2 is correct in that, in terms of function, they do exactly the same thing. Just -- depending on the circumstances -- it's either a good thing or a bad thing.

Much like the other WEAPONs, really.

In any case, the fact that Deepground "simulated" the end of the world made Omega think it really was. The WEAPONs seem to act on instinct rather than reasoning; they're not terribly clever.

Otherwise, the others would have found Seph despite that big "no trespassing" sign around the Northern Crater that would have been a dead-giveaway to most sentient life forms.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well the WEAPONs were literally blinded by Sephiroth's barrier, thus they had no clue where he was, right?

And if Omega was corrupted and no longer fulfilling its purpose, wouldn't that make him no longer a positive force in the natural order of things? A malevolent instead?

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I look at the WEAPONs as animals, so a concept like "malevolent" doesn't ring true for me. They don't have intentions, so to speak -- neither malevolent nor benevolent. They have a purpose, a function.

They may be living creatures, but they really are more like robots in every other respect. They're even automated responses to certain situations.

They're Norton for your planet.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

That's how I always looked at it, honestly. They're either a convenient or an inconvenient household appliance.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well they have to have some semblance of intelligence and volition. Remember when Diamond Weapon changed course once it sensed Midgar's reactors sucking up mako to fire the Sister Ray? Cloud describes its attitude as changing, due to it sensing "murder." And sure enough it got pissed, and turned its attention to Midgar and firing on the city.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

Intelligence does not equal morality.

Nobody is saying they're stupid or retarded, but they don't have the same moral compass as defined by humans and shouldn't be held to that standard. They're more or less intelligent yet inconvenient machines.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Intelligence does not equal morality.

Nobody is saying they're stupid or retarded, but they don't have the same moral compass as defined by humans and shouldn't be held to that standard. They're more or less intelligent yet inconvenient machines.

So you don't think there's any type of difference in behavior between a corrupted Omega, and the normal Omega?

I mean, I see you and Tres's point, but I'd equate the corrupt Omega to more as a monster, and the real Omega as a true Weapon with the well being of the planet in mind, since that's its purpose. A corrupt Omega would not have the planet's well being in mind, since its corrupt and not acting in accordance to its actual purpose.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

So you don't think there's any type of difference in behavior between a corrupted Omega, and the normal Omega?

That's not what we're saying, dude. We're just not in agreement with your choice of words. 'Malevolent' is usually reserved for beings with a humanlike sentience, not a machine gone haywire. The case with Omega, and all of the WEAPONS really, was a case of 'wrong place wrong time', like a broken appliance or an out of control robot, not a case of malevolent, 'out to get you' type deal.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Ahh, well okay then. I guess I see your point then. I can't really disagree with that

 

[OWA-2]

So you don't think there's any type of difference in behavior between a corrupted Omega, and the normal Omega?

For what concerns the game's plot and it's characters, there isn't a difference. Both Omegas would suck the Lifestream of the planet and fly away with it, leaving the inhabitants of Gaia to die.
The Weapon's intentions for doing it aren't really important to the plot. Stopping Deepground from awakening it is the main point.

A corrupt Omega would not have the planet's well being in mind, since its corrupt and not acting in accordance to its actual purpose.

But it would still do the same thing the original Omega would. However, this 'second' Omega was only introduced at the end of the game.
My question to you is: Why introduce a new 'character' at the end of the story, with the same purpose/function/goal of an already stablished one? A new 'character' who wouldn't add anything new to the plot, due to being just a copy/replica of the original? Couldn't they have made, I don't know, Weiss/Hojo lose control of the original Omega, causing it to start absorbing the planet's Mako, WITHOUT having to introduce a new Omega at the last minute of the story, who would start doing the exact same thing?!
Come on Mako, don't tell me that doesn't sound, at least a little, redundant and unecessary.

 

[OWA-2]

Wait a minute, that looks like Necron and Kuja from FFIX.
At the end of the story, Kuja was going to destroy everything and you had to stop him. But after defeating him, this new blue character comes from nowhere with the same intention, and you need to stop him.
Yes, Necron was going to destroy existence for a different reason than Kuja, but that doesn't make his existence less redundant. They could have made him a second form of Kuja, and nothing would have changed.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

That's pretty much exactly how it went down, the only significant difference being that Omega's instincts/will/programming dominated Weiss instead of the other way around. And I'm not even sure how significant that's supposed to be.