What was Aerith doing?

wayfarer

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We all know from the OWTNS: Case of Lifestream that Aerith was spying on Sephiroth, but what else do you think she was doing? I can't recall it saying that she met up with Zack, or give anything else. Was she following them on their journey? When Cloud and Tifa spent the night on the Shera I bet she was going GRRR!!! XD

Discuss.
 

Midnyte92

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She was following the journey I believe what else is there for her to do other the watch from afar.

When Cloud and Tifa spent the night on the Shera I bet she was going GRRR!!! XD
I bet she was wishing it was her with cloud and not Tifa :mudkip: and I believe it was on the Highwind back then not the Shera :count:
 

Akemmi

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We all know from the OWTNS: Case of Lifestream that Aerith was spying on Sephiroth, but what else do you think she was doing? I can't recall it saying that she met up with Zack, or give anything else. Was she following them on their journey? When Cloud and Tifa spent the night on the Shera I bet she was going GRRR!!! XD

Discuss.


I was disappointed that she never contacted Zack for help through the Lifestream in the entries. As for what else she was doing, from this exert...

"The woman discovered that there was a growing number of spirits within the Lifestream who refused to be absorbed by it. While they were different from the man’s spirit, they rejected the Lifestream due to the same emotion. Hatred. Their feelings towards the planet were steeped in hatred, just like that man’s. This is the result of his influence reaching the surface, she thought. The woman drew closer to the souls that had just entered the Lifestream, spirits filled with hate, and tried to heal them."

...I gathered that a lot of her time was taken up healing the souls that Sephiroth was influencing, gathering souls to aid her and having to react to things as they happened, it explains why she wasn’t able to heal the geostigma earlier on.

xxx

Akemmi
 

KissTheRain

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Well didn't it say she was helping the people full of hatred? I'm not so sure if we should count CoL as a replacement or a side view of Maiden, so if the latter your questions could be answered. I'm still not 100% positive if Maiden is put in the compilation, and if not well we'll never know. (until Square puts out another hundred unnecisary novels xD)
 

Makoeyes987

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If Maiden is routinely and purposefully neglected out of every character digest, including the main character of said novella, and Maiden's telling of events are outright contradicted by the Compilation itself, it should be pretty obvious its not canon. Why do people fail to see that? Not only is it ignored EVEN IN AERITH'S OWN PROFILE...but it just is full of shit that has been shown wrong and not what the creators had in mind. It's just creator sponsored fanfiction.
 

Ryushikaze

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She was following the journey I believe what else is there for her to do other the watch from afar.


I bet she was wishing it was her with cloud Tifa and not Tifa Cloud :mudkip: and I believe it was on the Highwind back then not the Shera :count:

Fixed.
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
It's a bad!fic, really.

Hell, I even know bad!fics that are better written than Maiden. \o/

So the reply is: she was wondering what the hell was going on and took 2 years to figure it out \o/
 

Ⓐaron

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Though, on second thought, Repercussions of Evil falls into the "so bad it's good" category.
 

KissTheRain

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If Maiden is routinely and purposefully neglected out of every character digest, including the main character of said novella, and Maiden's telling of events are outright contradicted by the Compilation itself, it should be pretty obvious its not canon. Why do people fail to see that? Not only is it ignored EVEN IN AERITH'S OWN PROFILE...but it just is full of shit that has been shown wrong and not what the creators had in mind. It's just creator sponsored fanfiction.
Personally, I think Maiden was written quite blandly and is just a crap ass version of CoL with Zack and in detail of who she helped. Not to mention it makes Aerith rather OOC. I dislike the story and it seems people only hold on to it as a temporay solution for pro-Clerith until something better came out. Well there is beloved now, so no need for that garbage.

And I know Maiden isn't counted as part of the compilation, but it was published in the Ultimania right? Whatever, or whereever it is i'm putting it in the trash pile along with LO. >_>

Who the hell is Maiden?
Utter rubish really, but if you care, it is a story called Hoshi wo Meguru Otome which is translated to Maiden of Who Travels the Planet. It is a story of Aerith travelling through the lifestream basically doing what she was in CoL just more in too detail. It was written by Benny Matsuyama, not FFVII's writer Nojima but is still put into the Ultimania Omega book. If you care to read it here is a link:
http://ffholy.com/ff7/maiden-who-travels-the-planet/

Canon or not, you decide.
 

Ⓐaron

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The truly ironic thing about Maiden is that it isn't actually pro-Clerith at all, since it clearly demonstrates that Cloud doesn't return the sentiment and the only reason she liked Cloud in the first place was because she saw the Zack in him. It also ends up with her acknowledging Cloti and giving them her blessing. Hardly a pro-Clerith story.
 

Vendel

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The truly ironic thing about Maiden is that it isn't actually pro-Clerith at all, since it clearly demonstrates that Cloud doesn't return the sentiment and the only reason she liked Cloud in the first place was because she saw the Zack in him. It also ends up with her acknowledging Cloti and giving them her blessing. Hardly a pro-Clerith story.


I thought people didn't like it because it seemed anti Zerith?

(and the massive plot contradictions)
 

Ⓐaron

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It's only anti-Zerith if you ignore the ending. But yeah, there are quite a few inconsistencies with the main plot of FFVII as well.
 

KissTheRain

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The truly ironic thing about Maiden is that it isn't actually pro-Clerith at all, since it clearly demonstrates that Cloud doesn't return the sentiment and the only reason she liked Cloud in the first place was because she saw the Zack in him.
You see that is kinda of the sad part of Clerith's who count in canon. I like Clerith along with Cloti, Zerith etc. just Clerith is my favorite at the moment, but I have never counted that shit canon. Clerith fans who go wild over Aerith saying that confuses me because they seem to analyze the fuck out of everything, but when this is put bluntly they keep it that way. Whereas from what i've seen Cloti's have done things the other way around. Idk, I still hate Maiden and will continue to count it as unofficial.
 

annacamille

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I noticed that when Cleriths bring up Maiden, they'll bring up the parts they like - for example "Aeris loved Cloud more than her first love" or something like that. Then when you remind them that the story didn't stop there and that Aeris actually called up Zack and that she actually gave Cloud and Tifa her blessings, they disappear.

Also, now that koibito is in CoL, have the Clerith updated their koibito articles? Have they re-contacted Resha's Japanese friend? Destinyfailed hasn't updated!! :(
 
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Vendel

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Also, now that koibito is in CoL, have the Clerith updated their koibito articles? Have they re-contacted Resha's Japanese friend? Destinyfailed hasn't updated!! :(

koibitoaerith1.jpg
 

KissTheRain

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I noticed that when Cleriths bring up Maiden, they'll bring up the parts they like - for example "Aeris loved Cloud more than her first love" or something like that.
I would have to agree, but not all Clerith's do that really, but the ones that do that are a bit...err idk what to call it really. And about Cloud giving Tifa her blessings I never caught that part...when she got jealous Tifa helped him or what? Hrm, it doesn't really matter if so or if not Maiden isn't canon so who gives a rats ass.


But, guys no offense, but this isn't Destiny Failed right, so we shouldn't be acting like it is. Personally I hate that site, anyone who an monthly bash people needs some manners and a life quite frankly, imo. People can have their views on the LT but bashing people for their opinions is just uncalled for and mean. :/
 
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annacamille

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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/Vendel/random%20stuff/koibitoaerith1.jpg
OH MY GOD. I'm speechless. I would rant on and on about how that line of thinking is wrong, but you guys do it so much better lol.

BTW... are you a member of the pink forum, vendel!??

I would have to agree, but not all Clerith's do that really, but the ones that do that are a bit...err idk what to call it really.
Forgive me for making a general assumption (according to anastar we Clotis are notorious for doing that) but it's been my experience from lurking on LTD threads that this is what happen.

And about Cloud giving Tifa her blessings I never caught that part...when she got jealous Tifa helped him or what? Hrm, it doesn't really matter if so or if not Maiden isn't canon so who gives a rats ass.
That's what I meant - not that it really matters anyway :lol:.

Oh right, back on topic - I haven't read much of CoLW so can someone give a tl;dr version of it? I remember someone saying she was chased by Sephiroth or something lol.

But, guys no offense, but this isn't Destiny Failed right, so we shouldn't be acting like it is. Personally I hate that site, anyone who an montly bash people needs some manners and a life quite frankly, imo. People can have their views on the LT but bashing people for their opinions is just uncalled for and mean. :/
You're entitled to your own opinion about the site, but I still enjoy reading DF posts. However, I do cringe whenever they make personal attacks :\ Most of the time they're just bashing the claims that they can't defend in a more open forum and that's the part I find really entertaining.
 

Ryushikaze

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COL:W is about as long as your post, Anna, and up on the first page. It'd take as long to summarize as it would to read.
 

annacamille

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COL:W is about as long as your post, Anna, and up on the first page. It'd take as long to summarize as it would to read.
Ah! Thank you as always, Ryu!

I'm guessing that Zack didn't dissolve into the lifestream either. I wonder if he was he like everyone else who had hatred in their hearts.

Also, it seems that COL:W leaves out a lot of information about how the lifestream works compared to Maiden.
 

KissTheRain

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Also, it seems that COL:W leaves out a lot of information about how the lifestream works compared to Maiden.
But the things said in Maiden, weren't exactly official. They were Benny's assumptions about it right? The lifestream is similar to the promised land, their are so many mysteries about it that are unsolved still. Plus CoL was written in more of a mysterious manner and third-person subjective, rather than Maiden that more had some 1st party views imo.

You're entitled to your own opinion about the site, but I still enjoy reading DF posts. However, I do cringe whenever they make personal attacks
I know, I know and this is thelifestream not DF so we shouldn't act like it is because i'm sure there are other people here that dislike it, like me. The thing on DF is they are usually making personal attacks. At least the pick out names and such. The sad part is many times they don't take a whole post or they don't see what the person posting means so it comes out looking waaay worse than it actual was. And the people who read DF but not the whole post on CxA think that some of the members are terrible when many aren't really that bad. :/
 

Ryushikaze

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Saying someone said X and making fun of X isn't a personal attack, KTR.

And I'm curious which posts come out looking 'waaay worse' than they actually are.
 

KissTheRain

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Saying someone said X and making fun of X isn't a personal attack, KTR.

No, not personally just that's kind of mean don't you think. And what is the point of it btw?
But on many of their posts they do specifically call a member something like "Analstar" and if you haven't read their blog about people’s names, you can't tell me that wasn't directing it at a specific person.

And I'm curious which posts come out looking 'waaay worse' than they actually are.

I'm not entirely sure on which ones either, but in one of their most recent ones FF_Goddess was quoting my post, so I was having a conversation with her and they obviously skipped over all the parts that showed what they said was crap, and I know because like I said I was there. T_T

That's what I dislike so much about DF, people like you think it is alright because you don't understand the whole convo.
 
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