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Just saying that the discourse around this bit is weird because they're speaking in Japanese so it's low key impossible to see what she's mouthing unless it's a Japanese speakers lip reading and translating it.

Not that I've seen. There is a vague fortune about Cloud 'losing what he cherishes most' but that is after two totally random and pointless fortunes. I assume it's a commentary on how we were never meant to take CS's fortunes seriously lmao.

Man... This is one of the scenes that really made me angry too I'm not gonna lie. I actually liked Aerith in CC and Remake but I have not enjoyed her much at all in Rebirth. This was so tactless. It could have been a good moment to build some actual emotional connection between these two and it...

True. The only real variation is So I'm assuming the big thing they have with Loveless is that she's most often cast as Rosa.

So much this! The argument I keep seeing in regards to this is 'he's acting so out of character in the GS date - that's not our Cloud' But these people willfully ignore And I understand some of those scenes are optional but the same is true of every character and that doesn't make the...

I've noticed that they're really only showing gifs and pictures from Loveless. Also Idk they seem set on misrepresenting a lot. It's like the romance videos being put up on YouTube. They skip the photographer completely lmao. Like I'm Sorry but they need to realise that there is a reason they...

I feel like I'm one of the only people who didn't hate the end. I also didn't read it as but rather the focus being on the deterioration of Idk I'm happy with the end and I trust the creators to do the job right in the final game. Remember this is a complete story and we're only 2/3 through...

I don't think the plan was to take away from Aerith. I think it's more that in the OG all the focus is on Aerith but the final part has Tifa kind of coming out of left field as a leading heroine and this time they're trying to empathize her equal importance to the narrative. I also honestly...

Or finding him in Midgar with mako poisoning and nursing him back to health after not seeing him for years lol. Tifa was literally a kid who lost her Mum and then fell off a cliff and had memory issues afterwards lmao. It's wild to me how many people expect a literal traumatised child to be...

Lmao are you serious? Literally what makes the story so good is that all of the characters are deeply flawed and human. Do minimise Tifa into a pair of tits who turns people on so much they can't use their brains is just stupid. You've just made some hectic claims about her not caring about...

This is my hope.. I would love to see a more concrete happy ending this time. Tifa stands by everyone man. She's the best. She is just so generous with her love and care and I'm so here for it.

Yeah she is my favourite too. She's so resilient and caring. Very selfless. It was something I admired so much as a kid and admire even more as an adult. She's a really great character! Man.. Cloud is such a complex character. I was kind of sad that we didn't get a bit more of Advent Children...

Yeah they definitely toe the line in the final couple of chapters. It can be Clerith or Zerith depending on which way you squint. Personally I still say you can only read it as Clerith if you ignore the larger narrative and the way it's building Tifa and Clouds bond but y'know.. shipping...

I'll second that the only people who don't like Zack are hardcore Cloud and Aerith shippers. Everyone else I know loved Zack, loved seeing Sephiroth pre-fall and loved seeing Shinra grunt Zack. The only thing that people hate in CC is hearing Loveless for the millionth time 😅 I felt a lot more...

Yeah but tbh the last two chapters don't hold up the LTD to me too.

@Empyrea yeah it's tricky to explain the differences to people too. One of my friends is Korean and said there was a lot lost in translation in Squid Game too. Lots of little subtle things that people outside of Korea would have completely missed. I think it's kind of the same in reverse to be...

Yeah the creators were clearly flirting with the idea of Clerith but leaving it ambiguous enough that it's nothing set in stone. Whereas they really took Tifa and Cloud and were like 'lets leave nothing up to interpretation.' Though I keep seeing Clerith pages saying that nothing with Tifa...

I don't know which part of Asia you're from but definitely it's all very culturally different from the anglosphere. Three of my closest friends are all from different parts of East Asia and say frequently that a lot of cultural subtlety that's lost on the Western audience when it comes to...

And on Japanese yahoo they have a question about this pertaining to friendship. The below answer echos some other answers also. A big thing in a few of the articles mention lovers, close friends or family like 'skinship' with close people based on the atmosphere and wanting to give support. But...

Hey I looked up an article in Japanese and translated it to English. There is deadass full on articles about this 😅 I did it under a spoiler tag cause it's a lot of text. This is the section on if you're not dating. This is in a romance article though.