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Me too! I think it's kind of cool that they have a story with a boatload of trauma that has a realistic sequel where that trauma is still deeply affecting the characters. As much as I desperately want the characters to be happy and okay - I like that they made me sit with the discomfort of...

It will be cool if they do something with the second empty holy materia. I'm guessing they may since they made a point of him looking at it during the closing scene.

Oh I didn't mean the intense love was him being crazy at all. I mean like... That's genuinely a very normal reaction to someone dying. Especially suddenly and tragically. It kind of takes over everything and your thoughts about that person become very consuming. Same with someone you care for...

Dude you have just blown my mind. I think you're right. I didn't realise it was a different orb. O_O I can't believe I missed that. I had read in the leaks that it was corrupted so clearly my brain just interpreted the information as I had previously read. Thanks for pointing this out haha that...

I would agree it's an allegory for choice but not necessarily in the way you frame it. For me Remake and Rebirth have been largely about the illusion of choice. I feel like one of the main themes of the game is that you can't change destiny. You can alter the journey and do things differently -...

This is what I want too and I liked Advent Children haha. But it wasn't a happy ending and I would like that for our characters.

It feels like everyone tries to quantify love in this game 🥴 it's such a complex emotion though. To be fair - I think people try to fit love into neat little boxes in real life too and also disagree with that. Humans are messy, emotional things. It was pretty unsettling for sure. But yeah, I...

I agree. In fact I think overall shipping shouldn't matter (no matter how much I enjoy discussing it) to the story. It's themes run so, so much deeper than that. But I think Clouds intense love for Aerith post death is an extremely natural psychological response to such a traumatic event. I...

I definitely got romantic undertones too. But at the same time it felt off in a way that felt intentionally off.. like the dream date world felt wrong. Their interactions with other people felt wrong. Just yeah... An inherent sense of wrongness. As for the romantic undertones post death - I...

These things are not comparable to experiencing derealization. Being forcibly drugged isn't the same thing. Neither is having a brain injury. Neither is being tortured into insanity. Cloud throws off Sephiroths control. That's not something you can compare to any real life scenario, that's the...

I thought it was masterfully done. I felt some tension from like a silent acknowledgement of the possibility of more - but also an acceptance (Cloud through his initial physical distance and Aerith through her talking about Zack) that their hearts are with other people. And yes, I read the...

They are definitely, definitely not the same thing. Cloud having delusions caused by grief is mental health issues... Cloud being possessed by Sephiroths is where the fantasy element comes in. I'm not 'playing favourites' I'm using my brain. Cloud not coping with Zacks death and dissociating...

I mean, you can't use Cloud attacking Aerith because in that instance it truly wasn't Cloud, it was Sephiroth controlling him. That's a whole different kettle of fish to mental instability. That's like.. being possessed which is nothing you can compare to real life. And sure, the other stuff...

Attraction and being enamored by someone falls under romantic feelings to some degree. These I think Cloud had towards Aerith and vice versa. That doesn't equal to love. Brain damaged Soldier Cloud is still Cloud though? Like yes he's confused and more susceptible to attraction to Aerith...

Ohhh true. To be fair to me, I was just thinking of the wife/singer/Barnum dynamic and didn't even consider the actual love story in the film. I didn't even think to compare the handhold. Man, I need to watch that movie again. It's so good. Definitely going to go listen to Rewrite the Stars now...

Cloud gets so flustered when openly flirted with haha I love it. That's what makes it extra adorable when he (rather clumsily) pulls out the moves for Tifa lmao. Squeezing the life outta her or just yeeting her into him lmao he's hilarious. Ngl even though I'm a diehard Cloti - Yuffies was 110%...

I see it more like the Jessie/Cloud dynamic personally. I think half the fun of the bold and flirty girls in this game is how flustered it makes Cloud lmao. I honestly imagine Jessie and Cloud would have had a similar dynamic had she lived. That said - I think the underlying Zack connection...

I think this is a very good summary of their relationship. A very good friendship regardless of anything else - but some kind of echo of a potential romance. However it always felt like a wrong time kind of thing to me. Like it was never going to eventuate. For me Rebirth really drives this home...

I love this! And I actually do see some Cloud x Aerith stuff as romantic in nature even though I am 100000% in it for the endgame for Cloti. But Aerith is a really charming, lighthearted and fun girl in a very dark and gloomy world. They did a similar thing with Jessie in remake. You can see...

To be fair - many westerners feel the same. I was one of them. I didn't realise shipping was a thing in this franchise until recent years and I played the OG twenty years ago. Everyone I know in real life who loves the game (bar two people) aren't aware of the LTD and just follow the narrative...