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OK. OK...? I know. I know. I was making the point that *IF* FFVII were a movie, we would probably see Cloud telling Marlene he "hopes" Aerith likes him, the Clerith date, and the HA Highwind scene make the cut. Obviously that's debatable. I'm simply expressing my *opinion*. I know. That's...

Right. I'm inferring the "better" part from juxtaposition: Nojima says there's a premise things, "wont go well between Cloud and Tifa" Then he says, "things might have gone well with Aerith" Therefore, my interpretation is that things would have probably gone better with Aerith given his...

Also -- Tres, I read your long analysis of the LTD. I obviously don't agree with all of it, but it seems you agree that Cloud had romantic feelings for both Aerith and Tifa. Unfortunately, most people are not going to read your entire analysis. It's super long. And I know you don't want to...

SE has said Cloud and Aerith developed a "special bond" during disc 1. Therefore, it is irrelevant if Cloud was influenced by Jenova according to SE. Cloud and Aerith developed a "special bond". Period. The fact that Cloud still harbors such strong feelings for Aerith in AC should also prove the...

I'm trying to clarify what Clerith's meant with the "direct statements vs Ultimania's" argument. It's not that the Ultimania's aren't canon, it's does your interpretation of what the Ultimania's are proclaiming stand the scrutiny of what the creators have said. Unfortunately, what was claimed...

This post is mostly directed towards dashaque’s post she made on Tumblr, and some confusion about what Clerith's are saying: The argument is not if the Ultimania’s are or aren’t canon. The argument is this: does the Cloti interpretation of the Ultimania’s match what the...

Hey Hey! I have a reply coming up...!! and don't even deny it, Martha Jones... I know you want to know what us Clerith's think about your latest analysis.

LOL -- your condescending behavior is shining through again. How would the commotion lead to Tifa getting hurt? How would they know Cloud's commotion was to rescue Tifa? Your premise that these scenarios are similar is false. What I'm pointing out is people's inconsistent logic (I know, me...

Cloud thinking about being a man and causing a commotion is prompted by Aerith saying, "Do you want to go with me?" -- that's the part a lot of you keep forgetting. Plus, after Aerith asks him to go with her (which implies Cloud might not have gone in if Aerith hadn't been there to invite him)...

Meh. There's always room for hypothesizes. Fact is, when Aerith and Tifa were on equal footing, Cloud preferred Aerith. 'nuff said.

Yes. Huh? The plan was to go find Aerith. Cloud's worried about what he would do when they found Aerith. And guess what? He should have been. Sephiroth tried to have Cloud kill Aerith. His fear came true. But Cloud isn't completely convinced that Barret could snap Cloud out of it. And of...

This is what you said many pages back: "Cloud only went to the Forgotten City to protect Tifa. She had to convince Cloud go to. If she hadn't convinced him, he would have let Aerith go by herself. Seems to me he was wavering toward Tifa then." 1. Cloud did not go to the Forgotten City to...

This is pretty inconsistent logic from a lot of you guys: People keep saying the reason Cloud initially expressed more concern for Aerith's involvement in the plan to fool Don Cornero was because Cloud viewed Aerith as a weaker fighter than Tifa. So the natural conclusion is that Cloud is going...

Cloud says: "No. I might lose it again. If Sephiroth comes near me I might……" The reason Cloud did not want to go to the City of the Ancients is because he had just been possessed by Sephiroth and given him the black materia. Cloud thought he could potentially hurt Aerith while Sephiroth was in...

Why would it lead to a back-and-forth? Because I don't agree with her post. Knowing that I don't agree with everything her post says, I knew it would lead to a back-and-forth. Something I was trying to avoid since I was already involved with debating several posters. Thanks for your opinion...

...lol...you really believe that? Yes, it *MAY* supersede responses already awaiting my attention. LOL -- numerous posts of mine have been ignored. And although people come up with excuses for why my posts were ignored (I'm a liar, I'm a dishonest debater, etc.) -- the fact is, many of my...

Because it's a date? Obviously you missed the big-picture point I was trying to make: The fact that SE wanted to talk about as many romantic scenes as possible on the FTOIL page makes complete sense. By picturing the *canon* Cloud x Aerith date and then discussing that there are 4 possible...

I didn't respond because I wasn't interested in getting involved in yet another back-and-forth with yet another person. I think I've already explained this.

Gym Leader Devil -- The fact that SE wanted to talk about as many romantic scenes as possible on the FTOIL page makes complete sense. By picturing the *canon* Clerith date and then discussing that there are 4 possible dates allows SE to achieve two goals -- they are able to give preferential...

One of the things I want to discuss before I get around to everyone's responses is the FTOIL page. Why can't the FTOIL page be used as evidence in support of Cloud and Aerith, too? SE believes Cloud's date is romantic enough to include on the FTOIL page. And although SE does not specify...