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By showing Cloud was physically attracted to Aerith, I'm showing that it was the beginning of what led Cloud to having romantic feelings for Aerith. In other words, Cloud's physical attraction to Aerith laid the foundation for what was to take place after -- same with Cloud's attraction to...

Just to reiterate from my last post: The argument seems to be that because Cloud and Tifa expressed mutual feelings, it somehow canonizes them over Cloud x Aerith. But just because Cloud and Aerith never express mutual feelings, doesn't mean they didn't have mutual feelings. One of the...

But Cloud admits his interest in Aerith to Marlene. Even Marlene, being a young child, knows what Cloud meant when he said he "hopes" Aerith likes him -- which is why Marlene says in response, "I won't tell Tifa." So now we have Barret, Tifa, AND Marlene all noticing that Cloud seems to have a...

But Tifa's jealously *IS* rooted in reality because... Cloud thinks Aerith is physically attractive. Cloud finds Aerith's personality attractive. Cloud tells Marlene he hopes Aerith likes him. Cloud agrees and eventually goes on a date with Aerith. Cloud is triggered into a romantic...

I'm not saying Tifa's observation proves the Clerith point-of-view, I'm simply saying that Tifa's observation lends support to the Clerith point-of-view. But do Cloti's honestly believe Tifa has horrible perception skills? You point out that Aerith is a symbol of Cloud's failure to save...

In a passage outlining Tifa's jealously towards Cloud's relationship with her love rival, Aerith, SE mentions Cloud visiting Aerith's Church and that Tifa's problem isn't just that Cloud is dragging around the past, but that the reason might be related to Aerith, in particular. Why does SE do...

Right. Cloud felt guilty about letting Zack die because of their friendship. But we are talking about why Cloud feels such immense guilt for letting Aerith die. And it obviously has to do with the relationship that they had together.

But why does Cloud care that he let Aerith, in particular, die? Because of the "special bond" they developed together. This special bond, that I believe I have demonstrated is romantic, causes and creates Cloud to have this immense guilt. It is only logical to conclude that Cloud feels guilty...

"Days after having that conversation, Cloud left. Tifa wondered if that smile he showed her was an illusion." -CoT Even Tifa doesn't believe Cloud's smile. -------------------- I'm simply saying that their living arrangements and the family formed was not from a romantic place. Where does...

Circumstances that had nothing to do with romance led to the formation of their family and their living arrangements. That is the point I'm trying to make when I bring up the fact that Seventh Heaven has always been home base for AVALANCHE, the fact that Cloud has a separate room with a bed in...

“Hey, do you remember what you said when you brought Denzel here?” “What did I say?” “A lot of things. Even if I opposed it, you would bring him back with you. I could just feel it.” “That…” Cloud was making a face like a kid who thought...

No, what I'm saying is that the perception that Cloti's give in regards to the family that Cloud and Tifa have created together is wrong. By saying things like, "Cloud and Tifa live together and are raising children together" ignores WHERE they are living and WHICH children they are raising...

How many wounded children were all around Cloud considering the state of the world at that time? It is clear that Aerith had a lot to do with Cloud deciding to help Denzel in particular.

1. The "wavers" quote by itself proves that Cloud and Aerith had a special bond that went beyond a friendship. 2. SE views Cloud and Aerith as more than just friends as evidenced by the FFIX cameo and the Emperor/Empress dedication. Therefore, the "special bond" cannot just be friendship. 3...

You are completely ignoring the second part of that sentence which talks about Cloud thinking Aerith brought Denzel to him. Why would Tifa have "complicated feelings" toward Aerith because Cloud felt guilty over her death? The way I read that quote is that Tifa feels complicated feelings...

Loving someone =/= romantic relationship exists/flourishes/lasts forever.

I don't know where the rest of the quote is. I'm simply pointing out that when Hawkeye says, "Tifa is envious of the life Cloud will have with Aerith -- building and sharing a home, raising kids, etc. -- while she is in the Lifestream." That this quote: "Nevertheless, it is not hard to...

I was comparing/contrasting Cloud rescuing Tifa with Cloud rescuing Aerith. I was simply pointing out that there are multiple reasons Cloud may have wanted to rescue Tifa. The same can't be said for Aerith. I recently came to the conclusion that Cloud probably wanted to rescue Tifa to let...

I don't think I use anti-Cloti arguments to prove Clerith is canon. I think I use anti-Cloti arguments to show that Cloti is not as definitive as some think it is. I'm not denying or diminishing the existence of non-tradiitonal families. That is your own projection of what I'm saying. I'm...

"Nevertheless, it is not hard to imagine that she carries complex feelings as a woman toward Aerith, who had built up a special bond with Cloud that was different from Tifa’s. Tifa’s complicated feelings continue even in AC, two years after Aerith had departed the world.&#8221...