Animu tangent split from LTD (there are spoilers...you've been warned)

[Alessa Gillespie]

What about your fire magic? Ya know, the one that can almost instantly incinerate arms? Why didn't you try hitting Kenny with that?

Ugh.

you think mere fire would be able to stop Kenpachi? Oh lawl.

 

[Eerie]

AGAIN, because I feel like it's been said for Nth times, the stats aren't meant to be compared to each other! They're the %age stats of each characters, 100 being the max of their own capacities. 100% Aizen != 100% Unohana. Now, I DO believe that Uno is super strong - she's older than Ukitake and Shunsui after all - but you cannot compare both sheets and make up assumptions like that, it just doesn't work like that. If you have 10% of 10000 and 100% of 100, who is the strongest? The one that has 10%, or the one that has 100%? You get my point.

Also, I do agree that Bleach fights' are usually borings - well especially in the HM arc - but lately, Kubo has been doing an extremly good job at it.

 

[Gabranth]

AGAIN, because I feel like it's been said for Nth times, the stats aren't meant to be compared to each other! They're the %age stats of each characters, 100 being the max of their own capacities. 100% Aizen != 100% Unohana. Now, I DO believe that Uno is super strong - she's older than Ukitake and Shunsui after all - but you cannot compare both sheets and make up assumptions like that, it just doesn't work like that. If you have 10% of 10000 and 100% of 100, who is the strongest? The one that has 10%, or the one that has 100%? You get my point.

I do but is that how it's actually supposed to be or is it just your interpretation? I'm honestly asking. As I said, I can't read Japanese.

Also, I do agree that Bleach fights' are usually borings - well especially in the HM arc - but lately, Kubo has been doing an extremly good job at it.

Ichigo vs. Kenpachi is my favorite fight because it's what Kubo does best; slice and dice until one falls down. Simplicty and badassery.

you think mere fire would be able to stop Kenpachi? Oh lawl.

I'm rather positive it would. It burned Grimmjow's arm to ashes in a second or whatever.
Grimmjow is kind of stronger than Kenny.

Or maybe you're just joking and I'm too defensive. If so, sorry.

 

[Eerie]

Oh boy, I'd have to dig out very, very old posts about that - I don't know where they are anymore. I'm positive this is how it's supposed to be read though. _o/

Kubo's very creative, I liked

Spoiler: recent manga spoilers

Urahara/Yoruichi/Isshin vs Aizen

very much because I was impressed for the first time in a long, very long while. If you ask me though what fight is the best throughout Bleach, I would say Ichigo vs Byakuya, because it has everything that a shounen fight should have - hell, it even had a one month wait right before the full coloured chapter XD

Also, I wanted to add that I don't agree with your idea of "strong". It's not because a character holds powers that he's [or she, for that matter] strong. It's all about the inner strength that one can display, and that's why Kubo's females are strong - hey even Momo was able to display that inner strength. There's only Inoue left, but I'm sure she'll get there eventually.

Strength is not only the ability to take down your opponent, it's also how you go through obstacles and difficulties. Aside Inoue, no women in Bleach ever waited to be saved, they all fought, they all wanted to protect, even powerless. That is true strength, in my eyes at least. And because they have this inner strength, they are able to be "badass", to "fight", to "protect".

 

[Makoeyes987]

Grimmjow is not fucking stronger than Kenpachi. Are you out of your mind? Tousen used a damn level 54 Hadou on an already weakened Grimmjow. And it was only his detached arm. The amount of reishi in just a severed limb would be extremely easy to incinerate compared to the entire spiritual body of a goddamn Captain mid combat who's touted as one of the strongest in Soul Society history. Context, do you have it?

Kenpachi raped Nnoitora, who was the 5th Espada, and Grimmjow is merely the 6th. It's simple math fromthere.

And all databook stats are in reference to their own abilities and statistics. They are merely a loose guide to show how the characters are in terms of their own abilities in regards to predetermined attributes. You don't compare them together at all and expect to get an accurate portrayal. Unless you truly believe Kenpachi to truly be the weakest Captain all around in the Gotei 13. Yamamoto and Aizen have the same stats yet out of Aizen's own mouth he states Yamamoto is stronger than he is in a straight up fight. They are merely a reference tool. Taking databook stats as stone truth is absurd and ridiculous. Your understanding of this is limited.

1. My point was that 18 is not a strong female. She's weak and insignificant to the plot. You know why? Tell me, could she beat Cell? Could she beat Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Trunks or Piccolo after their trips in the Room of Spirit and Time? How about after three of those people went SSJ2? Or how about any forms of Buu? Or Gotenks?

Now you're just being retarded. Vegeta's weak and irrelevant to the plot then. As is everyone else who isn't Goku or Gohan.

SHE ALREADY BEAT VEGETA, TRUNKS AND PICCOLO. So that's a stupid question. Their training was a result of them having their asses handed to them by 17 and 18. It doesn't negate or erase the fact that at that time, 18 gave Vegeta one of the worst ego smashing ass beatings he's ever had in his life. She's as strong as a Super Saiyan. That is strong. Get a clue, please. Goku had his first true loss handed to him by Master Roshi. Does that mean Master Roshi was never the champion of the Tenkaichi Budokai? Piccolo beat the shit out of Goku as well. The past doesn't just disappear because a new chapter gets written. A story is built from the foundation of its previous events. The past actions of the characters shape and represent who they are now. 18 beat the shit out of all them full stop. It doesn't matter that they got stronger. It doesn't erase it. It's thanks to her and her bro that they realized they weren't nearly as unstoppable as they thought they were.

Again, by your illogical standards, only Goku and Gohan matter. Actually no, only Vegetto. Because that's the only ones who could beat everyone.

Those are the names of the characters who matter in the Cell Saga and Buu Saga. If she can't beat any of them, she's not important or strong.

You're not important or strong. Cause I said so!

Rangiku is the same. She couldn't beat any of the Espada or a Captain. She is no match for any characters of actual significant power.

Guess Ukitake isn't either since he didn't beat any of the Espada, and he's a fucking senior Captain! Uh oh! Same with Love and Rose!

Your standards fail harder than a Twilight and Harry Potter crossover fanfic.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I'm rather positive it would. It burned Grimmjow's arm to ashes in a second or whatever.
Grimmjow is kind of stronger than Kenny.

Or maybe you're just joking and I'm too defensive. If so, sorry.

wow did Grimm being stronger than Ken happen sometime between Kenpachi obliterating his better by only using two hands to swing his sword or him taking the evidently highest 0 espada?

Ken's a badass.

 

[Gabranth]

@Syneiam:
I fully respect your view and I agree with the idea of inner-strength. I was arguing mainly on the idea of tangible power. No doubt many females in Bleach have great willpower. But do they actually have the power to fight someone like Shunsui or Stark? No. Not in my opinion at least. Maybe Unohana or Yoruichi but they are very much the exceptions.

Grimmjow is not fucking stronger than Kenpachi

Pre-Bankai Ichigo was equal to Kenpachi.
Post-Bankai Ichigo could barely scratch unreleased Grimmjow.
Bankai = 10 times stronger.
Thus an Ichigo at least ten times stronger than he was against Kenny (when he was his equal) is weaker than a weakened Grimmjow.

Tousen used a damn level 54 Hadou on an already weakened Grimmjow

...weakened? Grimmjow took Ichigo's getsuga tensho like it was nothing and told him even if he could spam it, it wouldn't be enough to help him win.
So less weakened and more mildly inconvenienced.

And it was only his detached arm. The amount of reishi in just a severed limb would be extremely easy to incinerate compared to the entire spiritual body of a goddamn Captain mid combat who's touted as one of the strongest in Soul Society history.

Except he already severed the limb with ease...so why can't he burn it exactly?

Context, do you have it?

Says the guy who boasted about how Nel was beating Nnoitra...while failing to mention Nnoitra was not at full strength while Nel was.

Kenpachi raped Nnoitora, who was the 5th Espada, and Grimmjow is merely the 6th. It's simple math fromthere.

Except Nnoitra and Grimmjow fight in completely different ways. Bleach may be bad but it's not DBZ bad. Having a higher power level doesn't always equal victory.

To beat Kenpachi, all Grimmjow would have to do is fly up in the air and shoot down Gran Rey Ceros. Or those darts that could shatter giant pillars like nothing.

There's jack-all Kenny could do to mount an offense.

Now you're just being retarded. Vegeta's weak and irrelevant to the plot then. As is everyone else who isn't Goku or Gohan.

Tell me again. Who was it that had a dramatic showdown with Goku in the first stages of the Buu Saga? Who fused with Goku to make the strongest fighter in Z history? Who distracted Kid Buu long enough for Goku to gain the power to defeat Kid Buu?

Vegeta is very relevant to the plot.

SHE ALREADY BEAT VEGETA, TRUNKS AND PICCOLO. So that's a stupid question.

AND TAO BEAT GOKU BACK IN THE RED RIBBON ARC.
Guess what? No one gives a shit because Goku is several million times stronger than Tao.

Fuck, Master Roshi beat Goku too. Is Master Roshi a powerfula nd significant character in Z now? lol

Does that mean Master Roshi was never the champion of the Tenkaichi Budokai?

Nope. But it means he doesn't matter whatsoever in the Saiyan Saga and onwards.

Guess Ukitake isn't either since he didn't beat any of the Espada, and he's a fucking senior Captain! Uh oh! Same with Love and Rose!

Did not and could not = different.
Ukitake would pwn pretty much every Espada.

Your standards fail harder than a Twilight and Harry Potter crossover fanfic.

I'm merely acknowledging the truth. By the end of Z, most of the characters didn't matter. That's the truth.

If you fail to see that, it's not my problem.

Also, some of the Espada have unique traits. Nnoitra is supposed to be the most durable. Zommari

 

[Tifaeria]

Oh god, this #18 hate is outstanding. SHE IS NOT A WEAKLING, WTF?! If anything, just blame 'poor' writing on her not fighting so much. Another thing to add, you really expect a girl to outshine the MEN in the series? I mean it's great that she's such a badass and can just casually break Vegeta's arm with one blow (and make him cry like a bitch), but if you expect a girl to outshine all the men in a COMIC FOR BOYS, then you need to stop reading Shonen. It's sad, but it's honest and you can't expect more than that.

And now I'll leave you with this awesome vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX-B3dHKxzc

 

[Makoeyes987]

Pre-Bankai Ichigo was equal to Kenpachi.
Post-Bankai Ichigo could barely scratch unreleased Grimmjow.
Bankai = 10 times stronger.
Thus an Ichigo at least ten times stronger than he was against Kenny (when he was his equal) is weaker than a weakened Grimmjow.

Ichigo was NEVER equal to Kenpachi. Did Kenpachi use both his hands against Ichigo? No he fucking didn't.

...weakened? Grimmjow took Ichigo's getsuga tensho like it was nothing and told him even if he could spam it, it wouldn't be enough to help him win.
So less weakened and more mildly inconvenienced.

That's why he got scarred by it.

Except he already severed the limb with ease...so why can't he burn it exactly?

Again. It would be a lot easier to burn the reishi in a severed fucking limb, than the entire spiritual body of a Captain, with a blast spell of only level 54. Unless you're saying Kenpachi's spiritual energy is equivalent to Grimmjow's fucking arm.

Says the guy who boasted about how Nel was beating Nnoitra...while failing to mention Nnoitra was not at full strength while Nel was.

They were both unreleased. What the fuck are you talking about? Nel was the first fucker who was able to cut through Nnoitora's godly hierro with just her unreleased sword, and make him bleed. Something that took Kenpachi several tries to do because he wasn't used to it. Good job remembering the chapter.

Except Nnoitra and Grimmjow fight in completely different ways. Bleach may be bad but it's not DBZ bad. Having a higher power level doesn't always necessitate victory.

No they really don't actually. They're both melee class fighter arrancar. Both focus on sword play and cero spamming, and they have no real distinguishing features save for their specialties in slashing and cutting. Nnoitora is simply better and stronger, and has instantaneous regeneration to boot. They are not completely fucking different. They both fight close range with pure physical force. Comparing them is easy, and their ranks reflect their power within the Espada. 5 versus 6. 5 wins.

To beat Kenpachi, all Grimmjow would have to do is fly up in the air and shoot down Gran Rey Ceros. Or those darts that could shatter giant pillars like nothing.

Because Kenpachi didn't prove that he can swat the cero of a stronger arrancar with his barehand.

There's jack-all Kenny could do to mount an offense.

LOL, oh wow.

Tell me again. Who was it that had a dramatic showdown with Goku in the first stages of the Buu Saga? Who fused with Goku to make the strongest fighter in Z history? Who distracted Kid Buu long enough for Goku to gain the power to defeat Kid Buu?

Vegeta is very relevant to the plot.

Who's the bitch that broke Vegeta's arm and made him cry like a girl? Who's Krillin's wife? Who was one of the main antagonists of the android saga that scared the shit out of all the Z fighters? Good fucking job, kid. You guessed right, 18.

AND TAO BEAT GOKU BACK IN THE RED RIBBON ARC.
Guess what? No one gives a shit because Goku is several million times stronger than Tao.

Doesn't change the fact Tao beat Goku up, and Goku nearly died.

Fuck, Master Roshi beat Goku too. Is Master Roshi a powerfula nd significant character in Z now? lol

Doesn't change the fact he was the head champion for several years and one of the strongest humans on the planet, chief. Again. Just because its in the past doesn't make it no longer true. God, you really must have ADD.

Nope. But it means he doesn't matter whatsoever in the Saiyan Saga and onwards.

I guess Grandpa Gohan doesn't matter since he only raised Goku, was one of Roshi's strongest pupils, but died before Dragonball technically started, and only appeared to beat up Goku in Baba's tournament. Oh wellz.

Did not and could not = different.
Ukitake would pwn pretty much every Espada.

Good job, I could say the same shit to you.

I'm merely acknowledging the truth. By the end of Z, most of the characters didn't matter. That's the truth.

If you fail to see that, it's not my problem.

You're talking out of your ass, which is far from the truth. I see that quite clearly considering all the characters fought several battles that were important throughout the saga of the story. Dragonball wasn't just, "Buu Saga-End." It was the entire story of Goku from child to adult. All the fights and characters along the way built up the foundation for each arc and the interactions that proceeded. Only a frenzied fanboy would forget that and look at things from just he last arc on. How juvenile.

 

[Max Payne]

 

[Tifaeria]

@Syneiam:
I fully respect your view and I agree with the idea of inner-strength. I was arguing mainly on the idea of tangible power. No doubt many females in Bleach have great willpower. But do they actually have the power to fight someone like Shunsui or Stark? No. Not in my opinion at least. Maybe Unohana or Yoruichi but they are very much the exceptions.

I think if Kubo actually written it out, they could take out someone like Shunsui and Stark. Every character has a chance at beating someone stronger than they are and overcome it. And if they don't? Realistic right there for me. Not everybody can beat any enemy possible. And like someone else said, this is Ichigo's story, not every other side character's story, so of course he's the only one that will prosper. Kenpachi, Grimmjow, Nnoitra, Nel, and yes even Unohana (my favorite captain) will always fail in someway when it comes to power, especially when it is next to Aizen and Ichigo. It's just how it is.

And I could say the same thing for DBZ. They all had their crowning moments of awesome but they will never be outshining Goku or any other type of Alien that comes from space. It's that simple.

 

[Gabranth]

Ichigo was NEVER equal to Kenpachi. Did Kenpachi use both his hands against Ichigo? No he fucking didn't.

I had no idea there was a person on Earth who took lolkendo seriously.
Well...I guess you have to find the bottom of the barrel sooner or later.

Okay. Kenpachi *throws up a little* with two hands...is stronger than Ichigo.
I feel so dirty.

That's why he got scarred by it.

And laughed it off.

No they really don't actually. They're both melee class fighter arrancar. Both focus on sword play and cero spamming, and they have no real distinguishing features save for their specialties in slashing and cutting. Nnoitora is simply better and stronger, and has instantaneous regeneration to boot. They are not completely fucking different. They both fight close range with pure physical force. Comparing them is easy, and their ranks reflect their power within the Espada. 5 versus 6. 5 wins.

So were Nnoitra and Kenpachi flying around? Was Nnoitra shooting darts and Gran Rey Ceros?

Because Kenpachi didn't prove that he can swat the cero of a stronger arrancar with his barehand.

Not all ceros are created equally.

Who's the bitch that broke Vegeta's arm and made him cry like a girl?

No one cares.

Who's Krillin's wife? Who was one of the main antagonists of the android saga that scared the shit out of all the Z fighters? Good fucking job, kid. You guessed right, 18.

That King Piccolo is a tough guy. I mean, he's really REALLY powerful.
Only...not. Because everyone and their dog could obliterate him later on...

You've apparently lost sight of the original topic which is strong female characters. 18 isn't strong because she would get obliterated by anyone who matters at the end of Z.

So, if Z had a strong female character, she'd have to be someone who could actually contest with the strong male characters. Which 18 can't.

They were both unreleased. What the fuck are you talking about? Nel was the first fucker who was able to cut through Nnoitora's godly hierro with just her unreleased sword, and make him bleed. Something that took Kenpachi several tries to do because he wasn't used to it. Good job remembering the chapter.

Well that's my bad then.

I'll just concede to you about Bleach.

 

[Splintered]

The day Kenpachi uses his full power, the entire Bleach universe will implode due the sheer amounts of testicular fortitude that he will emit. And perhaps my computer monitor as well.

/unhelpful debate.

Also, I wanted to add that I don't agree with your idea of "strong". It's not because a character holds powers that he's [or she, for that matter] strong. It's all about the inner strength that one can display, and that's why Kubo's females are strong - hey even Momo was able to display that inner strength. There's only Inoue left, but I'm sure she'll get there eventually.

Strength is not only the ability to take down your opponent, it's also how you go through obstacles and difficulties. Aside Inoue, no women in Bleach ever waited to be saved, they all fought, they all wanted to protect, even powerless. That is true strength, in my eyes at least. And because they have this inner strength, they are able to be "badass", to "fight", to "protect".

I'm going to have to say yes and no to this. There are plenty of "strong" females in shounen then, but they get absolutely raped in a fight. And if it becomes too much of a habit of this, you get the point where people get annoyed with the trend, as in Naruto.

But yes, strong female characters also factor in not just physical strength, but should include emotional strength, intelligence, or leadership qualities. If not you get something like pre-Naruto speeched Tsunade. She's one of the strongest characters in Naruto, but she was also had a breaking point through her phobia which prevented her from damn near everything. Now she's a much stronger character, although she hasn't had a real chance to show off her strength ever since the Three Sannin Fight.

 

[Gabranth]

Ah Tsunade is a total badass and a babe.

I was kinda impressed with even Sakura in the little I saw of her in Shippuden. She gave Sasori a nice fight. Sure she had Chiyo's help but Naruto (at that point anyway) couldn't have done crap against Sasori even with Chiyo's help.

I switched to Bleach when i wanted something fun and cool. Except for Ulquiorra who had a character I actually liked.

But when i wanted some actual story and character depth I went to naruto. I would have gone to Monster but it wasn't dubbed yet. Now it is, I really don't care about Naruto or Bleach as much as I used to.

 

[Max Payne]

Bleach and Naruto have about the same amount of "character depth". It's just asinine character depth in Naruto.

 

[Splintered]

Bleach and Naruto have about the same amount of "character depth". It's just asinine character depth in Naruto.

Eh, I wouldn't say it's asanine in Naruto. Naruto is overrated in many aspects but there are a lot of characters that are dynamic and well developed, Neji, Rock Lee, Tsunade, Gaara, etc. The only problem is them staying in the spotlight.

 

[Max Payne]

Eh, I wouldn't say it's asanine in Naruto. Naruto is overrated in many aspects but there are a lot of characters that are dynamic and well developed, Neji, Rock Lee, Tsunade, Gaara, etc. The only problem is them staying in the spotlight.

I'm sorry, but 99 percent of the developments in Naruto and Sasuke's characters in Shippuden are retarded.

At least imo

 

[Gabranth]

Well yeah. No one's gonna say "lulz Itachi was a good guy all along!" is good character development or depth.

But for people like the aforementioned characters, I felt they did have depth. I define character depth, since it seems to be somewhat arbitrary, as having reasonable motivations or history for why you are as you are. For the Evulz = not in-depth. A character who has a legitimate reason for doing what they're doing and that reason is explored = depth.

IMO anyway.

Sadly Orochimaru was the best villain in Naruto. The Akatsuki were overall a failure IMO. Sasori was okay and Hidan was amusing. But the rest? Not a big fan.

I'd say i like the Espada more if it wasn't for Zero Character Espada Yammy and Zommari the Pumpkin Man.

 

[Splintered]

Sadly Orochimaru was the best villain in Naruto. The Akatsuki were overall a failure IMO. Sasori was okay and Hidan was amusing. But the rest? Not a big fan.

Sasori is my favorite villain in Naruto (and the addition of Chiyo was great as well). But I have to say, Hidan was terrible. Terrible. He was funny with Kakuzu but in general, failed in every respect. I also like Tobi/Madara as a whole but I'm kind of worried if Kishimoto is going to drive him off a cliff plotwise. But for the rest of Akatsuki.... meh.

Orochimaru was a good villain, he did wonders for the story, but he's kind of like a poor man's Hisoka (HxH), and I have a sinking suspicion that Kabuchimaru is just going to be a barrel of dissapointments. Even more than Danzou was.

I was so pissed off when Danzou was just randomly killed off by Sasuke, as if Sasuke needs another kill to prove how crazy/evil/strong he is. There are so many better things Kishimoto could have done with Danzou and he just wrote him off.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Since you conceded on the whole Bleach front Gabranth, I'm going to keep my point in regards to Dragonball succinct.

We are apparently arguing from two very different definitions of strength. Apparently, strength to you, is only power that was the absolute at the end of the series, and irregardless of its context throughout the whole story or saga.

When I'm talking about characters who are strong, I'm speaking of their strength within the context of their story, and their respective appearance.

Android 18 is the strongest earth born humanoid character amongst the heroes. But you still consider her weak because there are other people stronger than her by the end. Nevermind the fact that she's stronger than one of the most horrifying aliens that terrorized the galaxy. That she's stronger than a SSJ1. Because of the inevitable power creep and "lol there's always someone stronger" trope...you classify her as "weak" because eventually during the story, more strength and villains are revealed.

Okay, yeah, 18 isn't the absolute strongest character of them all, but within the framework of the story, and context of all the people around and such, 18 is still one of the strongest characters in the story. Shes still strong and powerful.

If you're only going to look at characters at the end of the story who were the absolute strongest of the strong, yeah everyone's sure as shit gonna look weak, but that ignores the dozen other characters who were strong at one time, and were the building blocks of the story before it got to the end. If you're gonna be that cheesy and ignore all that, just to look at the final arc removed from the rest of the series, that's your choice. But no one's gonna agree with it since it does a disservice to every other character in the series.

 

[Gabranth]

Well i really don't want to think of just the end of Dragonball. I kinda hated the Buu Saga and would have much rather had it all end with Cell.

But I just don't see how you can say DBZ has strong female characters when the absolute strongest one is way weaker than all the most important characters.

I guess I would just think a series with strong female characters would have at least onr, preferably more, females who are in what I'd call the "top tier".

For instance, let's talk about the shounen I said was my favorite earlier. Yu Yu Hakusho. This series was pretty piss poor when it came to strong female characters. Sure Shizuru was badass and Keiko wasn't as bad as some make her out to be but where are the females who could pwn Yusuke in a fight? Who could beat Toguro like a bitch?

The answer was provided in the Three Kings Arc. (which kinda sucked but eh) Mukuro was not only insanely powerful, she had a long history of abuse and mistreatment. She overcame it all and became a King, or rather, Queen, in a frickin' Demon World.
It's even implied she could be the strongest fighter in YYH. (Her or Raizen Prime)

So I'd say YYH at least has a strong female character because she can go one on one with any other guy in her verse and either trash them or equal them.

I guess we do just have fundamentally different ideas of strong females.

 

[Celes Chere]

"lulz Itachi was a good guy all along!"

THIS FUCKING PISSED ME OFF. ITACHI WAS MY FAVORITE, AND THEN THEY DID THAT. FFFFFFFUUUUU

 

[Joker]

lol. Naruto. Poor thing.

Sure Shizuru was badass

Fuckin' right.

Keiko wasn't as bad as some make her out to be

lol

where are the females who could pwn Yusuke in a fight? Who could beat Toguro like a bitch?

Genkai? She was pretty fucking awesome, dood. One of my favorite characters in the series. I didn't see what all the fuss about her younger self was, tho. =P

 

[Max Payne]

Yeah, Genkai was proof that old folks can still be fucking awesome.

 

[Gabranth]

Genkai? She was pretty fucking awesome, dood. One of my favorite characters in the series. I didn't see what all the fuss about her younger self was, tho. =P

Yeah Genkai was pretty awesome.

And her younger form is cute. Not the sexiest thing ever but kind of attractive.

But what's really annoying is that there are so few female fighters in YYH that I keep thinking of Miyuki.
Yeah...Miyuki.

*scratches head* Been almost a decade or so since I first watched Yu Yu Hakusho and I still don't get it. I guess she's not all-woman but...she's not a man...er, oh nevermind.