Detroit: Become Human – PS4 Game by Quantic Dream (formerly PS3 Tech Demo "KARA")
- Thread starter X-SOLDIER
- Start date
Lex
Administrator
OK just watched it
"There's nothing surprising about the themes"
"There are times where its handling of these themes can feel a little on the nose"
"Sleight of hand to make some plot devices work"
"Character and camera movement are a bit stiff"
"Moments when dialogue options can be a little vague, prompting our character to say something that doesn't at all match what we intended"
Yup, it's another David Cage game.
EDIT: facepalming so hard rn
Good job Dave, appropriate a Martin Luther King quote, that'll get those racism allegations off your back XD. I cannot with this guy.
"There's nothing surprising about the themes"
"There are times where its handling of these themes can feel a little on the nose"
"Sleight of hand to make some plot devices work"
"Character and camera movement are a bit stiff"
"Moments when dialogue options can be a little vague, prompting our character to say something that doesn't at all match what we intended"
Yup, it's another David Cage game.
EDIT: facepalming so hard rn
Good job Dave, appropriate a Martin Luther King quote, that'll get those racism allegations off your back XD. I cannot with this guy.
Last edited:
Tetsujin
he/they
- AKA
- Tets
Russell
.. ? ..
- AKA
- King of the Potato People
I'm enjoying it so far.
Yeah the themes & topics aren't anything we haven't seen before but what I've played has been good. So well executed but a bit unoriginal so far? I think that's fair. The graphics and facial animations are fantastic.
Yeah the themes & topics aren't anything we haven't seen before but what I've played has been good. So well executed but a bit unoriginal so far? I think that's fair. The graphics and facial animations are fantastic.
I have gotten myself killed 3 or 4 times. >.<
Shot in the back multiple times (This was in the first 5 minutes, I LOL'D)
Shot in the head
& Shot in the head a second time.
And maybe beaten to death once? (It cut to black before I saw anything)
I'm so hilariously bad at this game
Shot in the back multiple times (This was in the first 5 minutes, I LOL'D)
Shot in the head
& Shot in the head a second time.
And maybe beaten to death once? (It cut to black before I saw anything)
I'm so hilariously bad at this game
There is a plot point with a kid being beaten by her drug addict father, I did nothing... 
...and the kid got beaten to death off screen.
I did not not see that coming.
...and the kid got beaten to death off screen.
I did not not see that coming.
Kuja9001
Ooooh Salty!
- AKA
- roxas9001, Krat0s9001, DarkSlayerZero
I'm enjoying it so far.
Yeah the themes & topics aren't anything we haven't seen before but what I've played has been good. So well executed but a bit unoriginal so far? I think that's fair. The graphics and facial animations are fantastic.
I have gotten myself killed 3 or 4 times. >.<
Shot in the back multiple times (This was in the first 5 minutes, I LOL'D)
Shot in the head
& Shot in the head a second time.
And maybe beaten to death once? (It cut to black before I saw anything)
I'm so hilariously bad at this game
There is a plot point with a kid being beaten by her drug addict father, I did nothing...
...and the kid got beaten to death off screen.
I did not not see that coming.
I've only been killed once so far. I tried helping the cops at the police station stop the self destructing android and got terminated.
I took the gun and killed Todd(the dad)
Russell
.. ? ..
- AKA
- King of the Potato People
I got shot in the back multiple times in the hostage thing at the beginning & shot in th station as you did. 
Kara is now perma dead in my story. The female android on the menu had a go at me for it. "You let Kara & Alice die?! How could you?!"
I read a review so I knew I'd end up looking after a child NPC at some point and didn't want to, I hate baby sitting NPCs in games, so yeah I pretty much did nothing on purpose and let the kid die.
Of course I didn't know that Kara's story would end there...
But I like that I can fuck up that badly and keep going, I'm already looking forward to playing the game again to see the paths I didn't take.
I read a review so I knew I'd end up looking after a child NPC at some point and didn't want to, I hate baby sitting NPCs in games, so yeah I pretty much did nothing on purpose and let the kid die.
Of course I didn't know that Kara's story would end there...
But I like that I can fuck up that badly and keep going, I'm already looking forward to playing the game again to see the paths I didn't take.
Russell
.. ? ..
- AKA
- King of the Potato People
^ I usally agree with the opinons of Jim Sterling, but I disagree. i'm really enjoying this game. (It just seems like he wanted to have a go at the Developer.)
My fuck ups continue;
The woman on the main menu asked if we were friends and I said 'No'. She looked so hurt. My feels.
Also I shot a android in the head because I thought it would get me info I needed (it makes sense in game) but everyone's mad at me for it.
Who'd a thunk it.
The woman on the main menu asked if we were friends and I said 'No'. She looked so hurt. My feels.
Also I shot a android in the head because I thought it would get me info I needed (it makes sense in game) but everyone's mad at me for it.
Who'd a thunk it.
Kuja9001
Ooooh Salty!
- AKA
- roxas9001, Krat0s9001, DarkSlayerZero
My fuck ups continue;
The woman on the main menu asked if we were friends and I said 'No'. She looked so hurt. My feels.
Also I shot a android in the head because I thought it would get me info I needed (it makes sense in game) but everyone's mad at me for it.
Who'd a thunk it.
I barely trust humans after events at that one dude's place. I had another casualty at the tv station due to dumbass "allies" not letting me handle the guards.
Interslicery
.....
Russell said:I read a review so I knew I'd end up looking after a child NPC at some point and didn't want to, I hate baby sitting NPCs in games, so yeah I pretty much did nothing on purpose and let the kid die.
The baby sitting is extremely bare bones. You don't have to like, manage her hunger bar, or worry about her during action scenes or anything. Its primarily about what story choices you make, keeping in mind you have a young girl with you. Like, maybe you'll try to sleep in this place, instead of that one.
I enjoyed the game. Had some shocks and surprises. Some very well done scenes. Pleasantly surprised to see Clancy Brown in the opening credits.
Not gonna comment on any racial parallels and how well it treats the material in relation to them, cause I'm extremely underqualified to speak on that.
I'll play it again, make different decisions. Apparently I got an ending for Kara that only 3% of people got.
Random Nobody
local roach
Russell
.. ? ..
- AKA
- King of the Potato People
Seriously what are you trying to say?
If you found the game boring (which is my guess from that gif) can you explain why?
And no spoilers please I've got two chapters left.
Random Nobody
local roach
It's a David Cage game, so that's a bit of a given, but do you think the story's primary intent is to entertain?
Not a rhetorical question, I'm actually asking.
Russell
.. ? ..
- AKA
- King of the Potato People
Yeah, I've found it entertaining and I already know I'm going to play it again to see the paths I didn't take.
Walking from A to B to pick up paint or cleaning a house for 20 minutes not doing it for you?
There are interesting parts where you have a gun to someones head and have to decide to pull the trigger or not, but admittedly you have to wade thru some crap to get there. For me there were enough good bits to make up for the above stuff, but your milage may vary.
I'm was only vaguely aware of who David Cage was before picking up Detroit and this is the first one of he games I played.
I heard Quantic Dream (the developer) had a toxic work enviroment, I remember there were news stories about that. Is that why everyone seems to have it in for him? (I don't know the details)
Lex
Administrator
There are a few reasons but it's mostly his attitude. I don't think he's evil but he's a bit ignorant, and irritating (in an "it's fun to laugh at him" way).
There were complaints about sexism/ harrassment at the studio, and there have obviously been criticisms of the sexism in QD games (think random shower scenes where the player undresses people that serve literally no purpose).
His response to the toxic work environment thing was to say "I can't possibly be sexist, I worked with Ellen Paige one time".
He sees himself as an auteur, an artiste pioneer very vocally pushing himself as the only person ever to do these things (he lacks any sort of humility). He fails to see that the subject matter he's covered in every single game doesn't tread new ground at all or subvert expectations ever. It's all very basic stuff that he unequivocally thinks are actually cream of the crop high drama.
Some of the dramatic moments are done well, and some of the stories are interesting. The games are not total trash by any means. But they're not what he proclaims them to be, and he's not humble. In particular he likes to respond to criticism of some of the elements with blind defiance rather than going "I can see why people feel that way about X" when there have been moments in the games and aspects of them that are overtly sexist.
There's also the weirdness with them hiring terrible French VA's to have fake American accents admittedly has resulted in some hilarity:
In line with the coverage of obvious topics I mentioned above, one thing that bugs me is that this is a big European developer who could finally actually set a game like this in Europe, but no fuck that. It's America America America America.
Farenheit: New York
Heavy Rain: Unnamed city in the USA
Beyond Two Souls: Unnamed city in the USA
Detroit: Obviously Detroit
He's just a pretty ignorant dude in general tbh.
There were complaints about sexism/ harrassment at the studio, and there have obviously been criticisms of the sexism in QD games (think random shower scenes where the player undresses people that serve literally no purpose).
His response to the toxic work environment thing was to say "I can't possibly be sexist, I worked with Ellen Paige one time".
He sees himself as an auteur, an artiste pioneer very vocally pushing himself as the only person ever to do these things (he lacks any sort of humility). He fails to see that the subject matter he's covered in every single game doesn't tread new ground at all or subvert expectations ever. It's all very basic stuff that he unequivocally thinks are actually cream of the crop high drama.
Some of the dramatic moments are done well, and some of the stories are interesting. The games are not total trash by any means. But they're not what he proclaims them to be, and he's not humble. In particular he likes to respond to criticism of some of the elements with blind defiance rather than going "I can see why people feel that way about X" when there have been moments in the games and aspects of them that are overtly sexist.
There's also the weirdness with them hiring terrible French VA's to have fake American accents admittedly has resulted in some hilarity:
In line with the coverage of obvious topics I mentioned above, one thing that bugs me is that this is a big European developer who could finally actually set a game like this in Europe, but no fuck that. It's America America America America.
Farenheit: New York
Heavy Rain: Unnamed city in the USA
Beyond Two Souls: Unnamed city in the USA
Detroit: Obviously Detroit
He's just a pretty ignorant dude in general tbh.
Random Nobody
local roach
Not necessarily whether it's entertaining, but whether the primary purpose is to entertain. I only ask because I honestly don't understand the purpose of stories like these.
I personally think all his works and writing are goddamn atrocious, but I'm not sure that's a majority or even a significant opinion, given people keep giving him money and accolades every game cycle.