Did the Gesthalian Empire have child soldiers? Did the heroes kill children?

[Max Payne]

YEAH WOOOO BRING IT ON BABY THIS IS MY KINDA SHIT

 

[Super Mario]

Hah! ABOUT TIME! WHAT THE HELL TOOK YOU GUYS SO LONG!?

 

[Joker]

It's not valor. It is...a bad omen.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

I guess everybody here wants infractions, huh?

 

[Makoeyes987]

Cut the fucking bullshit, please. Wtf is going on?

 

[Super Mario]

There's room for one more, it's always a fucking party down here.

 

[Joker]

Perhaps it's not that these 'child soldiers' were being brave. Maybe they just didn't know they were being sent on a suicide mission.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

Perhaps it's not that these 'child soldiers' were being brave. Maybe they just didn't know they were being sent on a suicide mission.

Like I said, I'm not stopping anyone from speculating, but I don't think that much thought was put into it!

 

[Super Mario]

What I was trying to say that it's always a party in war you fool, it had to happen! They're just plain talented thats why they're child soldiers you know?


Screw you man, I was trying to help. God is it so hard to find help?

 

[Max Payne]

Perhaps it's not that these 'child soldiers' were being brave. Maybe they just didn't know they were being sent on a suicide mission.

Everyone plays the game whether they want to or not baby.

 

[Alex]

Like I said, I'm not stopping anyone from speculating, but I don't think that much thought was put into it!

From back in the day (i.e before the Compilation of FFVII/Dissidia came along and the creators told concepts like quality and story to eat shit and die) I'm sure SE put alot of thought into this kind of thing. You did get the sense from FFVI that there was much more thought put into the world that they were actually able to convey using the hardware at the time.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

From back in the day (i.e before the Compilation of FFVII/Dissidia came along and the creators told concepts like quality and story to eat shit and die) I'm sure SE put alot of thought into this kind of thing. You did get the sense from FFVI that there was much more thought put into the world that they were actually able to convey using the hardware at the time.

Sure, but there are things that are put into video games for the fuck of it just as much as there is detail and subtlety that they're able to convey. There are plenty of things about games in FF6's generation that don't make any goddamn sense no matter how you slice it.

 

[Super Mario]

For all we know they could be lobotomized before they were blown to shit you know?

 

[Alex]

Sure, but there are things that are put into video games for the fuck of it just as much as there is detail and subtlety that they're able to convey. There are plenty of things about games in FF6's generation that don't make any goddamn sense no matter how you slice it.

The latter part of that statement could still apply to games in this generation tbf

Maybe its just up to us as gamers to determine how much detail we want to read into it. The Empire was certainly fucked up enough to use child soldiers.

 

[Cthulhu]

Maybe its just up to us as gamers to determine how much detail we want to read into it.

This, actually, . I'm sure the creators of FFVII didn't think things through as much until it became a popular discussion subject on message boards and such. I don't know how much it was before AC was announced though, but I can imagine that there's been loads, quite possibly more than with other FF titles.

 

[Roger]

I find it hard to believe that nobody mentioned this yet but, Celes a main character was trained a soldier since was a little girl, it was addressed and treated as something cruel in the story proper. I don't think they didn't bother to think that through.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Wow good point Shika. So there can be no denial that there was thought put into this. The Gesthalian empire used child soldiers. That's the precedent set by the story and reality of the combat encounters. So these Onion Knights are child warriors.

 

[ForceStealer]

I think the more egregious offense here is not that they're sending children into battle but doing so giving them mere medieval suits of armor...VI is a little ambiguous as to its level of technology, but the least they could do is give the contemporary armor.

I also think its despicable that you would excuse the practice if they were robot child soldiers. Are robot children not innocent?! Look at Turtloid for an example:

You're excusing Robotnik of wrongdoing and I don't want to know you.

 

[OWA-2]

They could be children, but I doubt the Returners were killing them. Knocking them off, sure, but killing? That would be too much OOCness. For Terra mostly.

 

[Dark and Divine]

They could be children, but I doubt the Returners were killing them. Knocking them off, sure, but killing? That would be too much OOCness. For Terra mostly.

Yeh, they could use a "make way" aproach and knock a few of them down (where's Garland when we need him?) to move foward, kinda like Zack in CC's intro. he wasn't killing them, he was just moving them out of his way.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Kinda hard to believe they didn't kill a single Onion Knight while they ran through the entire facility and were being gang raped by dozen of Magitek soldiers in proto-armor.

 

[Smaddy]

I find it hard to believe that nobody mentioned this yet but, Celes a main character was trained a soldier since was a little girl, it was addressed and treated as something cruel in the story proper. I don't think they didn't bother to think that through.

I mentioned it. It's been awhile since I've played FFVI, so I forget the specific quotes where she talks about her childhood/military experience.

 

[null.]

I never understood how Celes could be a General and soldier since childhood, and yet be such a whiny codependent wuss.

Also, I'm sure the party used L+R against any children they encountered.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I never understood how Celes could be a General and soldier since childhood, and yet be such a whiny codependent wuss.

Also, I'm sure the party used L+R against any children they encountered.

Only pansies run, and if you're insinuating the cast of FFVI are pansies, you're DEAD TO ME. No ON NOTICE...straight to DEAD TO ME.

And wtf, Celes wasn't whiny! She went through the end of the world. I'd try to kill myself too if I was alone on an island with nothing but self killing Mus to keep me company.

 

[null.]

Running is more cowardly than killing children?

And you wouldn't be defending Celes if she didn't have a clam. Imagine she were a man, then compare her to General fucking Leo. He would have swam off that bitch.