Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy

Roger

He/him
AKA
Minato
Vayne's men are acting in defense of their leader and his intentions, not to mention Ashe and co. come in direct conflict his army and himself.

Ghis was intending on beating Vayne to the throne and Gabranth couldn't have picked Vayne out of a line-up in that scene on top the Pharos.
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Ghis was intending on beating Vayne to the throne and Gabranth couldn't have picked Vayne out of a line-up in that scene on top the Pharos.

So, the judges are the only soldiers of the empire right?

Vayne and Ashe are in direct opposition of each other, and even if Vayne himself has no real animosity on his part, Ashe definitely does, and views him as her biggest obstacle to freeing her country.

I don't see what you're arguing here.
 

Sigbru

Meh
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The artist formerly know as Sigbru
Any word in how many characters from each game are going to be? I'm guessing it's only one new characters for each game, I doubt they'd favor any game over the other

I wish there was a Evil Story Mode this time. But I doubt it's happening
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Any word in how many characters from each game are going to be? I'm guessing it's only one new characters for each game, I doubt they'd favor any game over the other

I wish there was a Evil Story Mode this time. But I doubt it's happening
I think the main site has an interview with Nomura about it.

He doesn't give an official number but it isn't going to be something as small as 3 or 4 characters. He also said that it's not going to be a one character per game deal, it's going to be fairly uneven (which makes sense for games that didn't really have characters). Old interviews also said that he wanted to put in non FF (aka Kingdom Hearts) characters, but I doubt that will happen.
 

Kobato

Pro Adventurer
Why is Cloud looking up to Kuja like role model ? Weird one Cloud. Then again Kuja dresses like a cross-dresser so maybe Cloud thinks that they have something in common ? :awesome:
 

looneymoon

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Rishi

Ok I usually don't like to get too vocally annoyed with things but seriously.

I AM NOT AMUSED
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Roger

He/him
AKA
Minato
So, the judges are the only soldiers of the empire right?

Vayne and Ashe are in direct opposition of each other, and even if Vayne himself has no real animosity on his part, Ashe definitely does, and views him as her biggest obstacle to freeing her country.

I don't see what you're arguing here.

You said Vayne repeadedly takes action to get rid off her, I don't see how that is true. He tricks the Resistance at the start of the game, and sends Gabranth to judge what her intentions are, that's it.
Likewise, Ashe goes for Vayne at the start of the game but after that is only ever going after proof of her lineage or fighting/gathering Nethicite, which for example IS a constant source of conflict for Ashe as opposed to rivalry with Vayne. Even when she does go after him, it was long since not about getting back her Dalmasca from him anymore but rather about stopped the Arcadia-Rozzaria war .
 

Raquelborn

"I slice your ass in 4."
AKA
Raq, Raquel.
I just got back from a trip to Amsterdam so...

Also yeah, Tifa's in her original outfit:

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*FANGASM*

Anyone else spotted that her AC/C outfit (at least the black over white straps on her shoulders) is visible behind the more obvious image? There's definitely a difference.

I'm also salivating over Lightning being in this, of course.

PS: Yay, Tifa's in! <3 (I know we knew that, but I was glad to see it anyway)
PPS: The eyes! Look at the eyes!! They are red! Rejoice!

The ruffous colour might simply be the red fuzz due to the poor quality. It'd be awesome if they have kept them red though. In fact, seeing this picture of her face made me go "SO WHERE'S THIS FFVII REMAKE".

I want to know why she doesn't remember Sephiroth though. What kind of storyline is she going to have if it doesn't link with Cloud's in some way?

And... forgive me for being a curious shipper but will any references to their romantic relationship be made? I imagine it'd be hard not to considering it's heavily linked into their histories with Sephiroth.
 
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Glaurung

Forgot the cutesy in my other pants. Sorry.
AKA
Mama Dragon
I just got back from a trip to Amsterdam so...



*FANGASM*

Anyone else spotted that her AC/C outfit (at least the black over white straps on her shoulders) is visible behind the more obvious image? There's definitely a difference.

I'm also salivating over Lightning being in this, of course.



The ruffous colour might simply be the red fuzz due to the poor quality. It'd be awesome if they have kept them red though. In fact, seeing this picture of her face made me go "SO WHERE'S THIS FFVII REMAKE".

I want to know why she doesn't remember Sephiroth though. What kind of storyline is she going to have if it doesn't link with Cloud's in some way?

And... forgive me for being a curious shipper but will any references to their romantic relationship be made? I imagine it'd be hard not to considering it's heavily linked into their histories with Sephiroth.


Hope you had a nice trip! :D

Now:

The scene with Tifa and Sephiroth was very brief and it's cut down from the officialy leaked video (the one that SE doesn't take down), so we could hardly see anything more than her original outfit. But it's kinda logic that they include her AC/C as a second attire.

She doesn't remember Sephiroth, and I still don't know why, since it's not every day that your dad gets stabbed by a giant katana, but whatever :P

The dialogue between them is so very brief that nothing more than Tifa not remembering Sephiroth and the latter not telling his name was known. Sorry, no mention of Cloud :(

And that's all I could tell you about that scene :)
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Pretty sure it hasn't been discussed yet, but more translations of Lightnings/Kain's skill sets.

http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/255936.html
Small note here on the term "Memory Grade" - the term in Japanese is simply &#12513;&#12514;&#12522;. This is a pun though and can either be read as the English word "Memory" or as the Japanese word for "Gradation." I decided to combine the two meanings into one term to try and carry over the double-meaning.

Next up is the Move List for all of the characters included in the demo. There are three modes available - "Intro," "Normal," and "Hard" with different move sets for all. Everyone also has an Assist Partner (the smaller protrait under them), most interesting being Sephiroth assisting Cloud and Zidane assisting Kuja. Right now, we will have to see if this always means cross-faction assists... or if this is being done to stay away from revealing new characters. And while we know the moves for the returning players, I did go through and translate the move lists for Kain and Lightning in Hard Mode, and its under the cut -

Kain Highwind

Brave Attacks

Ground: Spiral Blow
Ground Towards: Piercing Lance
Ground Away: Cyclone

Air: Thrust Lance
Air Up: Celest Shooter
Air Down: Crush Dive

HP Attacks

Ground: Jump
Ground Towards: Dragon Fang
Ground Away: None
Air: Gugnir
Air: Rising Dive
Air Up: Sky Grounder

EX-Mode Special Attack

R+&#22231; Dragon Sword
HP Damage will restore HP

Lightning

Color Guide - Commando/Ravager/Medic

Brave Attacks

Ground: Smash Up/Army of One/Cure
Ground Towards: Area Blast/Fira
Ground Away: Ruinga/Aerora/Cura
Air: Impact Break/Thunder/Cure
Air Up: Blitz Rush/Blizzara/
Air Down: Ruin/Watera/Cura

HP Attacks

Ground: Lightning Strike
Ground Towards: None
Ground Away: Stormblade
Air: Razor Gale
Air Up: None
Air Down: Crushing Blow

Combo Note

Smash Up leads into Flourish of Steel
Cure spells do not heal HP, they instead raise Brave

(BTW, having not played FFXIII in English, much less Japanese, I'm not entirely sure that I got all the attacks right. If anyone wants to correct me, please feel free to do so.)

Oh damn, Lightnings gets cure? How's that going to work?
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Oh.

I guess I like actual relevant conversation less than I like talking about how Vaan sucks. Who can blame me?
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
:awesome:

On relevant topics:

Cure is supposed to raise your Brave points in this, rather than HP. Some of the staff apparently like to hide behind things and just keep using Cure while playing as Lightning.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
That's pretty cool that they included Paradigm shift, though. The medic thing could end up being cheap, but you are awfully vulnerable with no attacks.

And I guess Tifa's slot reels are tailor-made for Dissdia, certainly better than Cloud's "mash O" Think they'll include all 7 or just have three or so?
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
I think it's odd they are putting a cure with Lightning. I mean, it is one of her major roles, but I just never pictured a medic a big part of her fighting style. Maybe it's because I never used her has one, though.

I would picture it better on Yuna since being a white mage for her is kind of important.

Think they'll include all 7 or just have three or so?
I'd wager 4 or 5 just for brevity's sake, but I think it would mostly depend on how fast they spin.
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
oh hay new interview with Mitsunori Takahashi after DDFF won the Japan Games Awards 2010's Future Award:

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/19033839.html

&#8211; Firstly, congratulations on winning the Future Award.

Mitsunori Takahashi: Thank you. I'm please that the sequel won the award as its predecessor did. It's only been a week since we announced this title, but I'm grateful for the support the fans have shown.

&#8211; What did you think when watching people playing the demo?

Takahashi: I was relieved that everyone had gotten a better hang on the new system than I'd anticipated. There were even some people who initiated a Chase sequence from a Wall Rush with the Assist system. I was worried people wouldn't get it, but it turned out well (laughs).

&#8211; I bet there was a lot of people using the two new characters, Lightning and Kain.

Takahashi: Yes. Lightning's Paradigm Change is unique, but people seemed to have no trouble switching between them in battle. Well, I guess there might be a lot of people who are used to it from playing the first game (laughs). And with Kain, there were a lot of people using Jump and Gungnir to finish the demo. I didn't see many people making use of the basic dash, by pressing the triangle button in the openings during attacks to cancel them, but you can use that to not only charge straight forward but by pushing the analogue stick and pressing triangle at the same time you can dash around the opponent, so I hope people will use that technique in the final game.

&#8211; How did you decided on the other playable characters in the demo?

Takahashi: For starters I thought Cloud, who can be used on any difficulty level, would be definite (laughs). I figured that, play-wise, there would a lot of people wanting to use him. Warrior of Light and Terra are playable on Intro Mode because they're easy to use. Kuja was selected because I wanted to have one magic-focused character. And finally Frioniel, because he's changed quite a lot from the first game. Overall we selected the characters whose new attacks were most complete.

&#8211; Frioniel could use a ground dash by holding down R and triangle.

Takahashi: Frioniel was the only one who had that ability equipped this time, and that linked up to his ground attacks. With the ground dash in the demo you can move around freely by pushing the analogue stick, so there were some people playing it who were running around and around (laughs).

&#8211; You picked between the action style and RPG style at the start. What was your reason for showcasing the RPG style?

Takahashi: We wanted to show that it's easy to play even if you're not good at the battles. There were a lot of female fans playing the demo, so I hope they enjoyed it.

&#8211; Finally, do you have any comment for the fans looking forward to the game?

Takahashi: Battles are a major part of this game, so I wanted to showcase that aspect in the demo. But this isn't all there is to DDFF. There's still so much more I want to show. Even for people who found the battles difficult, there's still the story and other parts to enjoy, so I hope people will look forward to it!


Ikeda, the programmer, was also seen on the show floor. He said, "please keep an eye out for the Emperor! We're building an aerial fortress!"
 

Max Payne

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AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Not a mention of Tifa. Interviewer am fail.
 

Kai Schulen

... ... ...▼
AKA
Trainer Red
Cause the interview was about the demo and Tifa wasn't in it. :monster:

And having Cure to restore bravery isn't as cheap as Gabranth's EX-charge in my opinion. XD But it'd completely destroy the Snooze and Lose ability and protects you from the Chaos Judgment too...

By the way, anyone knows what was the moveset of the characters in the demo and if there was any new ones?
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
By the way, anyone knows what was the moveset of the characters in the demo and if there was any new ones?
Looking at the list and comparing it with the original game, the only one I can see:

- Cloud has an aerial Meteorain (HP) and aerial Double Cut (Brave)

Not including the stuff already mentioned in this thread, anyway.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
AKA
Smooth Criminal
You know what one of the medical reasons for memory loss is?

Venereal disease.

Maybe that cunt of fucking a "koibito" sucked one too many diseased cocks in Nibelheim behind the well and turned herself into a fucking retard.

Yeah, that's real romantic proofz right there. Fits her character perfectly.
 
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