Why yes, yes there is. I assume you don't have to work hard and think and shit to walk? Before you answer: No, no you don't. You've done it so often, it's becoming second nature, and you can do it without paying too much attention to it. It's the same with drawing - if you've drawn a thousand faces, the movements, how to look, how to get shading onto the paper, becomes easier, until it's automatic or requires very little thought or mental effort.
That's a completely different issue, it's not the same. I've been drawing since I've been a toddler, and it still requires effort and work. Walking is a mental process ingrained in you during your childhood, same as writing. Both of which, are much less complicated.
It never becomes automatic. Frank Frazetta has been in the same boat since he was a kid, HE STILL had difficulty well into his twilight years depicting things how he wanted. It NEVER become automatic, NEVER. You can become better at the core skills so you know what you're doing better, but it still takes a magnitude of hardwork, planning, and research to make an image perfectly. You have to develop your own visual library in your head, which you never stop doing, and you never stop working hard at it.
Even the core skills, you have to continue to practise them every day or they'll degenerate. You have to draw different things and observe the environment,carry a sketchbook with you everywhere to catalog different items. This is a work process that never changes.
Those people you see in those videos that just start painting or drawing with seemingly no effort, they spend hours preparing for those shows readying their work for that program. That's why Gnomon's videos are much more impressive. You see their process in work.
About the only thing that you could say a person could with little effort is a simple sketch of a person or a building they're familiar with. Even then it's not "automatic" they're just working from their repertoire as best they can.
Those images however don't require that much planning or the use of perspective, proper measurement, research into character design, or architecture. All of those are things you have to learn and use and no, it's not going to become "automatic" and the older you get the harder it is to hang onto these things.
Same with writing this post. Sure, I think about what to say and all, but how to say it, which letters should be in a word, which buttons to press when, require relatively little mental effort slash thinking. Automatism by practice.
Becoming an artist takes a shitload more work, comparing that to writing and walking is silly. There's no "automatic" to it. It's horsewash. There's too much to keep in mind, too much to have to master, and too much to constantly learn. You will never learn everything there is to learn in art, and you will never completely master more than core line skills and figure building.
The artists you describe don't start out with a sketch, they start out with a mental image, or a general idea of what they want to write, and gradually build it up.
They start with sketches to develop the ideas in their heads, or to come up with an idea. I've already been over this.
If I draw a stick figure and say it's finished, it's still a stick figure, and a shit one at that. I can work on it for hours, drawing it pixel by pixel to exact specifications, but it'll still be a stick figure and be shit.
When I write software, I start out with a general idea of what I want to make, and start with the general picture, filling in the blanks as I go along. But if my initial idea or the process with which I make it is shit, it'll still be shit in the end, no matter how much effort I put into it.
Well no shit, that's because if you don't have the proper skills, and never learned them. That has nothing to do with hard work(well learning is hard work too I guess), but a general lack of knowledge on the subject. I've started pictures with stick figures and turned them into full featured images.
If you know what you're doing, you can achieve a lot with hardwork.
Not sure if you're getting my point btw or just vehemently defending yourself, but eh.
No, you're just wrong. The fact that you're simplifying a very complicated subject by passing it off as talent, irks me a bit, but I'm not pissed quite yet.
I'm pretty sure that those who worked hard at something are jealous of those with talent, too, who seem to be able to do the things they work hard on seemingly without effort.
They don't do anything seemingly without effort, believing so is ignorance. Even with talent it takes hard work.
Professional artists are jealous of other pros, many of the best artists are incredibly insecure and down on their own work,it's what keeps them diligent.
. You could say that he's worked hard to be able to do that, but once you know how to do that, it becomes automatic, talent, and you can do it without much effort.
