FF7 Remake "Multi part series"

[Flare]

I think that if you make a game which is 3/4 Midgar, 1/4 some bit of story introducing Sephiroth, the structure is going to be very awkward.

It might seem odd and 'interrupt' the structure, but on the other hand if they give you some of the actual world beyond Midgar before the game ends, it can be a big pull for new players as it shows you "Okay you just got past the beginning and here's what'll be next for you, a big open world plus the engaging story!" Assuming they do an open world of course.
I'd like to at least explore a bit of the world beyond Midgar, preferably, as it would give a good look at how the world would be handled (and give a good difference in location to keep one immersed/engrossed in the first game instead of just Midgar's dark streets).

 

[Wolf_]

I think it will end with Cloud's flashback in Kalm (That thing takes forever in the original game). Part two will be out of the inn and exploring the world maybe up to rocket town or Wutai so all characters are there. Part three will be the rest... Or at least that's my guess.

 

[ForceStealer]

I wonder if they'll be shooting for each part to have a "final boss" or endgame of sorts? That would be the only issue with ending at the Kalm flashback, although I think it sounds good from a plot perspective. Maybe the boss at the end of the bike chase would be the "final" boss?

 

[clowd]

Can we really say what Square is doing here is greedy? I mean people pay full price for annual sports games that offer nothing more then roster updates and a few gameplay tweaks. Or they buy $50 "season DLC passes" on top of full priced games. But we excuse them but are mad at Square for this?

Anyways after thinking about it some more and reading the comments here, I've changed how I'd like to see this 'multi-part' series handled

Part 1: Q4 2017: Beginning to Forgotten City
Part 2: Q4 2018: Forgotten City to Ending

I cant imagine a better place to end the first part of the series then after the events of the Forgotten City. Its also far enough into the game where it will feel like you got your money's worth.

Your looking at 25-30 hours of core gameplay in Part 1 if they expand upon the game like they've promised. Part 2 will probably only offer 15-20 hours of core gameplay, but because its the end game and it will offer you full access to the entire world along with dozens of hours worth of side quests I dont think people will mind.

I wouldnt mind Part 1 being full price, but Part 2 should definitely be reduced in price, no more then $40.

Also the 12 month gap between the two will be bearable because of the extended size of Part 1.

Over time both parts of the game should be sold together at a reduced price.

 

[Kermitu Kleric Katie]

There is a reason not a single FF game, except the online ones, have exceeded the PS1 era games in terms of content and world size,

OBJECTION! FFXII is by far the biggest in terms of content and world size, and it's from the PS2 era!

 

[Mayo Master]

I'd like to at least explore a bit of the world beyond Midgar, preferably, as it would give a good look at how the world would be handled (and give a good difference in location to keep one immersed/engrossed in the first game instead of just Midgar's dark streets).

If you wish variety, it is still possible to offer it while you're still just in Midgar. The answers to that are, IMO: 1/Implement day-night cycles and weather 2/Allow exploration on the top of the plate 3/Allow exploration in ALL sectors of Midgar 4/Give to each Sector a distinct "flavor" - after all, Jessie points out in the OG that each sector used to be a town of its own.
Still, I think that having a glimpse of what it would be like outside Midgar would be detrimental to the structure of the "Part-I" of the game.

Your looking at 25-30 hours of core gameplay in Part 1 if they expand upon the game like they've promised. Part 2 will probably only offer 15-20 hours of core gameplay, but because its the end game and it will offer you full access to the entire world along with dozens of hours worth of side quests I dont think people will mind.

As I mentioned before, IMO it doesn't make sense to make gameplay time estimates for the remake based on the corresponding time you spent on the OG. The scope is going to be really different. If Kitase and Nomura are true to their word, I really doubt that exploring Midgar will be just a couple of streets in Sectors 5, 6, and 7, for instance. Not to mention that most of the gameplay time estimates we tend to have for the OG are those from people who know the game by heart, without that sense of "discovering a world for the first time".

I tend to believe that, for a remake, we have to distance ourselves from how the OG was constructed (which was a product of its own time, IMO), and think how a new game (or, in this case, a new series of games) would be crafted.
When Peter Jackson decided to adapt LOTR as movies, he didn't hesitate to deviate from how the books were structured, for better results. IMO this was also the case of a story told as "multiple parts", and I don't see what was the harm in that.

 

[Wolf_]

I like all you said Clowd.. Apart from the 30 hours and 20 hours. If this isn't a 100+ hour game considering how they keep going on about the scope of it and splittng it up I'll be very disappointed.

 

[Channy]

Everybody keeps saying two or three parts and here's where the game would end, etc, etc... am I the only one thinking that when they say "multi-part" means more than just a duology or trilogy? I'm thinking four at the very least but 5-8 is more likely... especially if they're wanting to make it as big and grandiose as possible to allow for more explorable areas in existing towns. I think it's more likely it would go something like

Beginning -> Junon/Costa Del Sol (after Jenova fight)
Costa Del Sol -> Temple of the Ancients
Icicle Inn -> Mideel (when you first lose Cloud would make for an epic cliffhanger)
Mideel -> End

Even this I'm tempted to throw in a part between Costa del Sol -> TofA because there's a lot to be done in there with a lot of areas and towns. All expanded, could easily be two pieces.. probably... same with Mideel to end. A whole part could be when you're Cloudless and then when you get him back, that could be a separate part open for new things to do before the end. So that all ranges then between 4-6 parts..

 

[Mayo Master]

am I the only one thinking that when they say "multi-part" means more than just a duology or trilogy? I'm thinking four at the very least but 5-8 is more likely...

Frankly, until Square decides to be clearer about it, it's anybody's guess.
Once again, I think that we could arrange a round of bets with Timbits for the winner (I doubt you'll mind )
Anyone wants to organize a poll about this?

 

[aszach01]

There is a reason not a single FF game, except the online ones, have exceeded the PS1 era games in terms of content and world size,

OBJECTION! FFXII is by far the biggest in terms of content and world size, and it's from the PS2 era!

HOLD IT!!!!!Nothing in particular just felt like I wanna say that.

 

[Vito]

This is so true that it hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rc3epjCl6o

 

[Tetsujin]

omg im dying

 

[Dashell]

This is so true that it hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rc3epjCl6o

Okay typically when someone posts a video and someone else responds with "I'm dying!" i don't find it funny in the slightest (usually it's just some guy screaming at the top of his lungs)
but that was pretty funny

 

[Ryuman]

Funny video, but it's even funnier that people take it seriously.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Max does a REALLY good summary of things here.

X

 

[Vito]

The fact that we are going to pay over 100 (Maybe even 200...) dollars for a remake is a hard pill to sallow.

In any case I just have hope that one day they decide to sale all games on the same package and they play as one complete game, just like the original.

Maybe a remaster on PS5...

 

[Wolf_]

price is not an issue for me. I'll be buying EVERYTHING. New ps4 with a sticker on, two limited editions one to play and one to never open (Doubtful they will be made being split up) Standard editions, DLC. Can't wait. I hope they have some news at Jump Festa about exactly how it's going to work.

 

[Ryuman]

Jump Festa seems way too early for anything, PSX still would've been a couple weeks prior. This kind of info probably won't be communicated until some time next year.

 

[Wolf_]

I highly doubt a trailer or anything but I'd like some form of update. I can dream i suppose.. When's the next E3? lol

 

[Tennyo]

Yeah, my initial reservations have waned. I'm down with the episodic content so long as it means we get quality content and a quality adaptation of the story.

 

[Flare]

If you wish variety, it is still possible to offer it while you're still just in Midgar. The answers to that are, IMO: 1/Implement day-night cycles and weather 2/Allow exploration on the top of the plate 3/Allow exploration in ALL sectors of Midgar 4/Give to each Sector a distinct "flavor" - after all, Jessie points out in the OG that each sector used to be a town of its own.
Still, I think that having a glimpse of what it would be like outside Midgar would be detrimental to the structure of the "Part-I" of the game.

That's true, if they give Midgar day/night cycles (I totally forgot about daytime Midgar in the first trailer...) it would help break up any repetition of the usually dark city. And I'd love seeing each Sector look a bit different, or at least some old structures with different looks. I'm thinking the Remake will give SE a chance to let any lore shine through that wasn't able to make it in the og.

 

[Jason Tandro]

That's true, if they give Midgar day/night cycles (I totally forgot about daytime Midgar in the first trailer...) it would help break up any repetition of the usually dark city. And I'd love seeing each Sector look a bit different, or at least some old structures with different looks. I'm thinking the Remake will give SE a chance to let any lore shine through that wasn't able to make it in the og.

So maybe they'll have a fully explorable area or two that has a realistic day to night cycle. Sure some of the characters might seem a touch flat but there'll be a lot to do and a lot to see. Areas that you can only access during the day or the night. Pathways that only reveal themselves after you explore for a bit. And an action-oriented combat system that allows for fast-paced execution focused combat.



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[Pixel]

I missed a bit of nomura's quote when mixing the audio, but didnt notice. Just a simple video about the "Multi-Part Series" controversy. I need to get these news type videos produced and up faster

 

[Animexcel]

I'm thinking if Final Fantasy XIII was Square's first Final Fantasy trilogy, then VII should be their second.

 

[RedFFWolf]

Nomura: "If you put it in a single installment...I want to put in as much content as I possibly can."

I'm 18 pages behind a lot of stuff here, but this is all I need to see in relation to the "Multi-Part Series" aspect to say "Go for it." I'll happily wait years for it all to come to fruition. And after buying each one, I'll buy the complete package when it's all done (I can't see this not happening eventually).

And while money may seem an issue to some, in the long-run it won't be noticed much; it just seems worse when thinking about how much it will be in total. (Just like buying €20 credit a month for a mobile phone seems okay for 30 days, but at the start of the year you may as well set aside €240 - almost a grand in four years just to make those calls you won't remember,

Spoiler: while FFVIIR

will buy you love forever ❤

). There are better examples, but it's the same kind of drift. (At least, I sure hope it's no trouble for anyone)