SPOILERS FFVII Remake Open Spoiler Discussion Thread

Suzaku

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Official Soundtrack track listing reveals the general flow of the game, though this is largely already known from the demo disc leak.

Disc 1
  1. The Prelude – Reunion
  2. Midgar, City of Mako
  3. Bombing Mission
  4. Let the Battles Begin! – Ex-SOLDIER
  5. Mako Reactor 1
  6. Mako Reactor 1 – Battle Edit
  7. Scorpion Sentinel
  8. Getaway
  9. Shinra’s Theme
  10. Those Chosen by the Planet
  11. The Promised Land – Cycle of Souls
  12. Chance Meeting in Sector 8
  13. Let the Battles Begin! – Break Through
  14. A Close Call
  15. Shinra Creed
  16. Shining Beacon of Civilization
  17. Tifa’s Theme – Seventh Heaven
  18. Noises in the Night
  19. Mako Poisoning
  20. Main Theme of FFVII – Sector 7 Undercity
Disc 2
  1. Avalanche’s Theme
  2. Scrap Boulevard Cleanup Crew
  3. Johnny’s Theme
  4. Let the Battles Begin! – A Merc’s Job
  5. On Our Way
  6. The Star of Seventh Heaven
  7. Lurking in the Darkness – Suspicious Man
  8. Just Another Job
  9. Lay Down Some Rubber – Let’s Ride
  10. Midnight Spiral
  11. Speed Demon
  12. The Red Zone
  13. RUN RUN RUN
  14. Jessie’s Theme
  15. Moonlight Thievery
  16. A Tower, a Promise
  17. S7-6 Annex Diversion
  18. Ignition Flame
  19. Under Cover of Smoke
  20. Main Theme of FFVII – Nightfall in the Undercity
  21. ???
  22. A New Operation
Disc 3
  1. Target: Mako Reactor 5
  2. Hurry!
  3. Dogged Pursuit
  4. Born Survivors – Section C
  5. Born Survivors – Section E
  6. Crab Warden
  7. Undercity Suns
  8. Tightrope
  9. Maze of Scrap Metal
  10. Critical Shot
  11. Game Over
  12. The Rendezvous Point
  13. A Trap Is Sprung
  14. The Airbuster
  15. Who Are You?
  16. The Turks’ Theme
  17. The Turks: Reno
  18. Flowers Blooming in the Church
  19. Under the Rotting Pizza
  20. Anxiety
  21. Aerith’s Theme – Home Again
  22. Hollow Skies
  23. Let the Battles Begin! – The Hideout
  24. Whack-a-Box
Disc 4
  1. Midnight Rendezvous
  2. Collapsed Expressway
  3. High Five
  4. The Oppressed – Beck’s Badasses
  5. Due Recompense
  6. Wall Market – The Town That Never Sleeps
  7. Wall Market – Chocobo Sam
  8. Wall Market – Madam M
  9. The Most Muscular
  10. An Unforgettable Night
  11. The Sweetest Honey
  12. Luxury Massage
  13. Tonight’s Corneo Cup
  14. Corneo Colosseum
  15. Colosseum Death Match
  16. Just Desserts
  17. Electric Executioners
  18. Hell House
  19. Victory Fanfare
  20. A Certain Gaudiness
  21. Let the Battles Begin! -REMAKE-
  22. Stand Up
  23. Funk with Me
  24. Sync or Swim
  25. Vibe Valentino
  26. Stand Up – Reprise
  27. Don of the Slums
  28. The Audition
  29. Smash ‘Em, Rip ‘Em
Disc 5
  1. Abzu
  2. Rough Waters
  3. Darkness Ahead
  4. Any Last Words?
  5. Ascension
  6. Train Graveyard
  7. Haunted
  8. Come On, This Way
  9. Ghoul
  10. Alone
  11. Black Wind
  12. Waiting to Be Found
  13. Eligor
  14. Fight for Survival
  15. Come Back to Us
  16. Cheap Play
  17. Those in Need
  18. Slums on Fire
  19. Get to Safety!
  20. Aerith and Marlene – A Familiar Flower
  21. Limited Options
  22. The Look on Her Face
  23. Rematch atop the Pillar
Disc 6
  1. Return to the Planet
  2. A Broken World
  3. Daughter’s Farewell
  4. Infinity’s End
  5. Wild de Chocobo
  6. Leslie’s Theme
  7. The Day Midgar Stood Still
  8. Fires of Resistance
  9. A Solemn Sunset
  10. The Valkyrie
  11. The Shinra Building
  12. Operation: Save Aerith
  13. All Quiet at the Gates
  14. Hand over Hand
  15. Scarlet’s Theme
  16. Stewards of the Planet
  17. Corporate Archives
  18. Cultivating Madness
  19. Another Day at Shinra HQ
  20. The Turks’ Theme – Office
  21. Home Away from Home
  22. Infiltrating Shinra HQ
  23. The Drum
  24. Catastrophe
  25. Final Experiment
Disc 7
  1. Trail of Blood
  2. J-E-N-O-V-A – Quickening
  3. ???
  4. The Arsenal
  5. Midgar Expressway
  6. Arbiter of Fate – Advent
  7. Arbiter of Fate – Rebirth
  8. Arbiter of Fate – Singularity
  9. I’m Waiting, Cloud
  10. One-Winged Angel – Rebirth
  11. Seven Seconds till the End
  12. Hollow
  13. Credits
Disc 8
  • Bonus Track
 
Theozilla

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One interesting thing I’ve noticed so far, is that the Chapters seem to be more divided/structured based on the narrative/pacing than necessarily actual potential gameplay content of each chapter. So some chapters can/will have much more subquests and exploration available to be done than others.
 
oty

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So whats people opinion of what they have seen/heard/played so far? Honestly just seems pretty good tbh. Nothing crazy. It is definitely and 100% a new take on FFVII's story.
 
Makoeyes987

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If I had any criticism thus far, it's that they may confuse fans with the approach they're taking with Sephiroth and him filling Cloud's head with images of his intended course. There's a scene that plays with the experienced player's knowledge of the OG by combining close up images of the character, their significant item, and it falling.

Like, seeing it at first is pretty damn trippy because. Well, it'll be obvious :monster:
 
oty

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Makoeyes987 said:
If I had any criticism thus far, it's that they may confuse fans with the approach they're taking with Sephiroth and him filling Cloud's head with images of his intended course. There's a scene that plays with the experienced player's knowledge of the OG by combining close up images of the character, their significant item, and it falling.

Like, seeing it at first is pretty damn trippy because. Well, it'll be obvious :monster:
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Yea right? Already seen people complain that it's "too much foreshadowing".
 
Theozilla

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Makoeyes987 said:
If I had any criticism thus far, it's that they may confuse fans with the approach they're taking with Sephiroth and him filling Cloud's head with images of his intended course. There's a scene that plays with the experienced player's knowledge of the OG by combining close up images of the character, their significant item, and it falling.

Like, seeing it at first is pretty damn trippy because. Well, it'll be obvious :monster:
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The one that surprised me the most/didn’t flow/mesh as well as others was the flash Cloud gets of the Sector 7 plate falling, since even though it indirectly helps/follows Sephiroth’s goals as it gets Cloud to “run away” i.e. leave Midgar and get the Black Materia eventually/follow the Reunion instinct, Sephiroth isn’t directly the cause of the Plate destruction.
 
Makoeyes987

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From what I'm gathering regarding the Arbiters of Fate, Sephiroth has tapped into these entities to literally have eyes across the planet and essentially utilize the planet's knowledge and awareness for himself.

Before it goes too far in speculation, I'll just leave it at that. He also is far more aware of Aerith.
 
Theozilla

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The Sephiroth Copies also have their creepiness portrayed well too, especially when Cloud is “seeing” them as Sephiroth. Gives the right freaky uncanny valley vibe, especially in the body movements/language.

I’m guessing this will probably help make Cloud attacking Aerith in the subsequent parts more “natural”, for lack of a better term.
 
Noble0ne

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Can I disscuss the full game here?

Edit* Nvm looks like others that watched twitch video already have.

Much Later edit*
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I know these are posted in the CH18 spoiler thread already. But it covers more than just the end so reposting here.

Biggs lives... Wedge lives but gets taken by the watchmen of fate... So we Dont know if he is alive. They Dont show if Zack died but in a way maybe nothing changed there. Barrett got killed by sephiroth but is revived by the wispers. Barrett and tifa are shown dead in a flash forward but it's not real.

HENRCAST said:
There has been a lot of stuff in this thread, so I think it might be useful to recap all we know for sure so far:

- The biggest new thing in the remake are the Whispers. They are described as "arbiters of fate" (Barret), "voices of the planet (...) those born into this world. Who live and who died. Who returned. They're howling in pain" (Aerith), and as "entities from a future timeline that fight to protect that future that gave shape to them" (Bestiary);

- They intercede whenever events threaten to deviate from the OG. It doesn't matter who causes the deviation (Cloud when he almost kills Reno, Hojo when he almost tells Cloud about his past, Sephiroth when he kills Barret and so on). However, Aerith clearly states that they are howling in pain because of Sephiroth;

- Near the end of the game, a massive amount of Whispers comes together and forms the portal through which the party goes through. They arrive at an alternate version of Midgar. Things that happen there don't impact the "actual" Midgar (the whole city is destroyed in "alternate Midgar", but remains intact in the "actual one");

- Events happening within "alternate Midgar" are visible to people outside of it in multiple points in time (Zack sees what is going on from a distance, even though he is in the past). Thus, "alternate Midgar" might be a "singularity;"

- Inside "alternate Midgar", the party fights a massive monster created form an agglomeration of Whispers, as well as three smaller ones. The smaller ones fight with "a sword", a "bare hands", and "guns;"

- During the fight, they see a number of visions of events that happened in the OG but at a future point in relation to the remake (Meteorfall, Red XIII running through a deserted landscape, the moments before Aerith's death) and so on. They interpret those events negatively (saying things like “this can’t be our future,” “this would be the result of us failing today”).

- The party defeats the Whispers. However, what happens to the Whispers is unclear. We latter see Sephiroth controlling them (which he hadn’t done until then). This, in conjunction with the cutscene that plays right after the Whisper fight, have led some to interpret as Sephiroth having absorbed Whispers.

- Even after the party defeated the Whispers, Sephiroth still invites Cloud to join him in “defying fate”. Cloud refuses. In what is possibly the most cryptic scene so far, Sephiroth talks about the “edge of creation” and declares that Cloud has “7 seconds until the end”;

- After the talk with Sephiroth, the party finds themselves outside of “actual Midgar” (which remains undestroyed) and leave to pursue Sephiroth.

Now, I’m not quite sure how to interpret this, but I’ll give it a try.

It seems to me that the three Whispers at the end (who fight with a sword, bare hands and guns) might be Cloud, Tifa and Barret from a future timeline. Like the other Whispers, they have already “died and returned”. Going from the visions the party had, they come from a future where a sequence of events like that of the OG has already happened. Aerith and Red XIII might not be among the Whispers because their future selves are respectively in the Lifestream and alive.

Sephiroth is acting to stop the chain of events that the Whispers are trying to maintain. This implies that he has somehow acquired knowledge that the actions of the Whispers are against his best interests. The party, however, sees only specific glimpses of the future – all of which, lacking context, look terrible (a meteor falling, Midgar abandoned, Aerith about to die). Thus, they misinterpret this future as bad, and act against fate (as Aerith put it, “the future is always a blank page”).

I think that, in the end, Sephiroth got what he wanted from that confrontation. The party defeated the Whispers, and Sephy is later seen (possibly) absorbing and (definitively) controlling them. I don’t think he was thwarted at all, since he appeared to be in control the entire time. But I’m not sure that Sephy got all he needs. Otherwise, it wouldn’t make sense for him to ask Cloud for help in defying destiny. In other words, taming the Whispers might be a necessary, but still insufficient, condition in achieving his plans.

Now, I have no clue where the devs are going with this, and whether it implies that they won’t follow the OG anymore. We’ll probably just have to wait for an interview to shed light on that. I also have no idea what the deal with the “7 seconds” thing was.
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Wol said:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU-rOapWAAAZOaQ?format=jpg&name=large

and now the connection between FFX and FFVII is reconfirmed... madmans
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Elisa Maza said:
Oh, what's this? A theory about the ending and the whole Remake project before even the first game is released?

Well, don't mind if I do.

I'm still going to maintain the belief that Remake is actually the memories of Cloud and co., who are now dead (simply because of old age) entering the Lifestream and pouring their memories in it; Remake = Memories of the OG that the characters have. The OG has become the Planet’s memory with their passing.

That explains the small differences from the OG. Our minds embellish and forget. We never remember the things exactly as they happened. The Remake having some minor differences is the characters remembering the OG actions slightly wrongly. Take the flower, for example. In the OG, you have the option not to take it; here you take it no matter what. You had the option who to give it to; here Cloud gives it to Tifa and it suddenly means Lovers’ Reunion. The OG is the real deal; the Remake is how one character (possibly Cloud himself?) remembers it. That doesn’t harm the Lifestream flow; it’s natural we forget details of the past as we go. It’s the big events, the skeleton, the outline that remains.

This helps with the Remake and the OG co-existing, not deleting each other and allowing SE to get money from both; they’re not replacing anything, that’d be financial stupidity and harm.

The bigger differences exist because Sephiroth is messing with the Lifestream itself, since he continues to linger in it. Now that the characters’ memories have entered the Lifestream and “no one’s dead if we remember them” well, of course when entering the land of the dead, the Lifestream, Sephiroth will be powerful. He’s remembered very strongly by the characters and the Meteor he summoned is remembered by all. It burns eternal in our hearts. Not just as himself, but the memory of him is now in the Lifestream, adding to his power. Especially from Cloud’s memories. Adding the JENOVA cells that cannot be dissolved since they’re the alien element and you get Sephiroth in the Remake.

With all this power coming to him, Sephiroth is able to fulfill his words in ACC: he will never be just a memory. He’ll mess up with the memories of the OG characters. Messing up with the characters means messing up with the Lifestream and its natural flow. And messing up with the natural flow of the Lifestream… well, it kills the Planet. Sephiroth wants to enter the cycle while also keeping his personality intact and he has found his “home” in Cloud and co.’s memories of him. He messes up and touches everything while also being untouched by them, looking for the beginning of creation, the source of the Lifestream, in order to harm it. Harming it will kill the Planet and allow him and JENOVA to use it to travel into the cosmos to invade other planets.

But, Aerith exists as long Sephiroth exists. They’re Yin and Yang, Black and White. She’s a native of the Planet, so she follows the cycle and she has an… expiration date, let’s call it. She’s weakening, but still existing. She realized what Sephiroth’s plan is and sent her friends’ remnants of spirits to try and put things back as they were, fix the BIG alteration of the memories. They’re the whispers, the people from after the events of the OG, maybe even the versions of the OG characters who went on to live. They fight to remain versions of themselves that happened after the OG. If the memory of the Planet about them changes too much, they will die. Not just dissolve into the Lifestream; they’ll disappear. They’re Aerith’s allies, the ones who understand what her death and all the OG events lead up to; a living Planet, a happy ending, a life going on.

Sephiroth hates them, but he has realized that he can use them. He fools Remake!Cloud to get rid of them in order to alter their “fate”. He’s not lying; he’s telling Cloud the truth. He can alter the memories too much by getting rid of the Whispers, the ones who correct the bigger changes. He just calls it “destiny” instead of “memory”. But Remake!Cloud is a memory himself, he’s Cloud as he remembers himself in the OG and he’s completely unaware of it. All he sees is the people he cares for dying, being in danger… he’s unaware that they HAVE to die in order for the cycle to continue, for life to go on. He’s unaware of his happy ending. All he sees around him is death and suffering (the OG was NOT a happy little story, wasn’t it?) and those whispers sometimes adding to it. So, that young, unwise, trigger-happy Cloud attacks what Aerith sent to help and gets rid of them. Did he kill a version of himself? Did he kill ACC Tifa in that final battle? Probably.

And then, Sephiroth gets powerful. So powerful that he steals Aerith’s Whispers and uses them, in order for Remake!Cloud to get rid of them. And he’s successful. “The future is not yet written.” Finally, he’s free of the Whispers and he can alter the memories as much as he wants. Alter them enough for everyone to want Aerith to live. After all, nobody in the Remake world wants Aerith dead, right? That’s a bad thing that happens. They’re unaware that her death leads to the Lifestream defeating Meteor and allowing life to continue.

That’s when dream!Aerith enters. She comes to Remake!Cloud and talks to him and all her words are of the one who knows the truth: you made me happy, don’t fall in love with me; it’s fake. It’s essentially “Thanks for remembering me fondly, but I have to die. Don’t get too attached to this version of myself, because if you change my death in your memories and start truly believing that I lived, things will get distorted too much and the distortion will spread.” Remake!Aerith says that whenever the Whispers touch her, she loses a part of herself. It’s because she’s fading herself; she’s a Cetra, but she IS of the Planet and the cycle caught her, too. She cannot be ACC Aerith; knowledgeable and wise. She’s far too gone for that. And she has to play her part and not alter the memories too much herself, otherwise the same harm will come. So, we got Remake!Aerith. A mixture of ACC Aerith and OG Aerith, or at least, as Cloud and co. remember OG Aerith.

Yes, there are a LOT of faults in this theory. But I’m sticking to it, because I haaaaate time travel and paradoxes and different realities.

At least this way, there’s no sudden new element that we’ve never heard of before entering the lore; aka time travel. There’s only the Lifestream and memories; something that were already there from the OG. This way, we also have the final battle against Sephiroth. Fucker continues to mess up with the Planet for only after his death, but after everybody else’s death. By defeating him and JENOVA in death, that’s it. The story ends. We can have Nanaki and his cubs 500 years later, without any concerns, as the absolute finale of the Compilation.
Cheers.
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I took the theories floating around that match what I think for the most part... Except, I assumed the ghost are still alive (just thwarted). And I made a mash up. I know it's me searching for people who agree, but they worded it better and more fact accurate than I would have... so it helped
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Sephiroth after the events of Advent Children has found a way to time travel to the past.
He time travels to Midgar just after the first mako reactor explosion. He meets Cloud in the back alley (which doesn't happen in the original FF7) and talks to him.

After Sephiroth talks to Cloud it alters the timeline so the guardians of destiny, the Whispers, show up to try and restore order and not let the past change due to Sephiroth's intervention.

As Cloud was delayed by TT (time travel) Sephiroth in the alley he would have missed running into Aerith thus changing the timeline forever, so the Whispers show up and keep Aerith in place so they can still both meet.

Throughout the rest of the game TT Sephiroth makes appearances, and whenever these appearances alter how the characters would act the Whispers intervene to keep everything on track with destiny (the original FF7 storyline). The 'keepers of fate' show up at pivotal moments in the storyline to prevent changes from happening to the story.

The intervention after letting Cloud meet Aerith continues, She doesnt leave immediately after cloud tells her to go, and as a result, the shinra troops find cloud while aerith Is still present. Its at this point that the keepers show up and scare aeris away. Odd, right?

Next scene with the keepers is in the slums. Cloud wasn't going to go on the 2nd bombing mission. It was a way to make him go. They attack in the Sector 7 Slums to injure Jessie so she doesnt go to the Sector 5 Reactor forcing Cloud to go.

After that, the next time we see them is in the church after cloud defeats reno. Cloud is about to kill reno and the keepers show up and drag him and aeris away to the back room. In the back room, the wispers proceed to show Cload and Airith the direction they escaped in the OG. Aerith almost falls down from the upper area on there way out but, the wispers save her from falling and being captured by Reno and his guards.

In Shinra HQ the wispers show up and just take away Wedge who had survived his fall off of the column support beam tower, & then he had survived the plate drop on sector 7.

1 more example is hojo is about to reveal to cloud and company that he was never in soldier, then he is taken away by the keepers.

In the original FF7 Palmer doesn't see Sephiroth/Jenova until he kills President Shinra. In this one he sees TT Sephiroth in the hallway which alters the course causing President Shinra to not be found already dead by Cloud and co and with Palmer hiding to witness it all. This time Jenova (or TT Sephiroth) kills President Shinra AND Barret, however the Whispers intervene to keep Barrett alive, & to keep their destiny on track as per the original FF7 storyline.

Eventually they make it to the end of the Midgar expressway where they would normally leave Midgar, however TT Sephiroth shows up to have Cloud and co defeat destiny. Cloud and co fight destiny and have flashforwards of what will happen if they do not defeat destiny (the original FF7 timeline).

They eventually defeat the destiny ghost allowing them to forge a new future where TT Sephiroth is in their timeline from the future. From here on out anything can happen. Airith speaks to the group on the endless possibility's that awaits them on the other side. that "beyond the portal lies freedom, and that if they win and defeat Seph they might change even themselves” ...(I see square doing some conditioning here)

TT Sephiroth then brings Cloud to the Edge of Creation and seems to be trying to help him. He tells him that now destiny has been defeated "That which lies ahead...does not yet exist" meaning he is now unsure of how the future will unfold.

TT Sephiroth then looks towards the edge of creation saying "Our world will become a part of it...one day." followed by "nor will I have you end." insinuating that he wants to keep Cloud alive. He then asks Cloud to help him "defy destiny together". Cloud refuses and he is sent back to Midgar. Sephy mentions with the fates defeated he we have no idea what the future hides ...(I see square doing some conditioning here)

At this point, id like you to acknowledge that events are playing out differently to the original. Cloud never went to the cosmos edge before, and if the keepers were not there to stop said story events from transpiring, the story would change dramatically. The puprose of the watchers is to keep the events of ff7 in line with the original.
The ending reveals that sephiroth, and to a lesser extent Aerith, are aware of this. Sephiroth knows that he loses in the end if the keepers continue to preserve the events of this ff7 timeline, so he manipulated Cloud and company to fight them.

After Sephiroth sends cloud back to Midgar from the cosmos edge. they fight an advent children style sephiroth(???)

With the keepers dead, and the skies becoming clear, its Insinuated that because they no longer exist, the original timeline and events of ff7 are not going to happen as they did in the original. The ff7 you have been playing was either never was the one you thought it was, and only happened the way it did because the keepers tried to keep events the same, or that the OG was/is a overarching past to this alternative time line. Now they (the Wispers) are dead and going forward from here means anything can happen.

The next game may not even be FF7 remake now... It could be FF7 Rebirth

I think this was the whole point of letting old players know that anything could happen. It just was such a convoluted way to do so.

As for Zack, it's possible Sephiroth helped him defeat the soldiers without him realizing it. The Whispers then surrounded Midgar to stop Zack from going there and changing destiny.
However when Cloud defeats destiny in the not so far future it destroys the whispers stopping Zack going home and allows him to live. I don't know they are a lot of holes in this theory.

I could be completely wrong but this is how I best interpreted the events.

Pot holes I know... Why not TTsephy go and kill cloud as a kid... A million more plot holes... I chock it to the fault of off the wall writing attempt.

Pizzachu said:
I've come across some fun discussion about if Aerith is actually from the future:

"So did anyone consider that Aerith is from the future?
AC established that Aerith can do what Sephiroth can do. Sephiroth created avatars to interact with Cloud in AC (Kadaj and so on) and in Case of Lifestream, Aerith said she can do that too but chose not to.
If Sephiroth really came from the future it's possible Aerith went back too. So her consciousness is in the past Alt timeline Aerith's consciousness. But then she'd know that the Time Janitors are there to keep everything the same. So she's not really any better than Sephiroth - she also wants a second chance. Except she wants a second chance at a happy ending even if it means the planet might not survive this new timeline....
I'm saying this because of the scene Aerith picks up Marlene from the bar. Marlene seems to have some kind of vision and Aerith puts her finger to her lips to say 'don't say anything'. Like don't spill the beans. So she definitely knows what her fate will be and she's willing to risk the planet's eventual happy ending so she can have a chance to live again..." -- ShawnandAngela

"As someone who has read the script I’ve been thinking this theory for months and just waiting for someone else to bring it up. Yes, I 100% believe the Aerith we see in the remake is one who has chased/followed Sephiroth from the future and is there to stop him in every sense of the word.
There are other scenes that imply it, too. Like, when Aerith asks Cloud to be her bodyguard she says something like, “It’s not too different from being a mercenary.” Except.... he didn’t say a word about being a mercenary. She realizes she’s slipped up and goes, “uh... I guessed! From the sword!” There’s another moment where Cloud tells her to stop acting like she knows him but.... my theory is: she DOES know him!!
There’s other hints too. Lots of them.
Edit: my only thing is—I don’t think she’s there to get a happy ending. I think she’s fully prepared to die again." -- Ribunn

"I feel her looking for a second chance at happiness would be inconsistent with the part where she says Cloud can't fall in love with her. Too much uncertainty at this stage to be sure I guess, but interesting theory nonetheless.
Also LOL at Time Janitors" -- Calaroth

"I actually do believe Aerith is from the future and she’s Sephiroth’s foil. I don’t believe she is doing this for a second chance. There’s a scene, when after they fall into the sewers, Tifa says she can’t believe they would ever really drop the plate but if it will happen they need to stop them. Aerith hesitates, as if she knows they cannot stop that from happening because things need to play out as they should in order for Sephiroth to lose this battle. Tifa immediately picks up on the fact that Aerith is hiding something and says, 'Aerith... what aren’t you telling me?'" -- Ribunn
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Since I'm not sure where this takes place, here is the secret boss that someone beat on reddit, and what he drops.

That necklace is going to make people talk even more now, I'm out (still reading though, a lot of theories are great and I'm having a lot of fun reading :') thanks guys!).
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