Radigar
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About Stamp we had more clues in the FF30th Exibithion look this reply:
https://thelifestream.net/forums/th...ps4-on-march-3-2020.21776/page-13#post-824408
FFVIIR at Gamescom 2019
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About Stamp we had more clues in the FF30th Exibithion look this reply:
https://thelifestream.net/forums/th...ps4-on-march-3-2020.21776/page-13#post-824408
Clean Cut Chaos
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Thanks! I had know idea what everyone was talking about and was in just smile and nod mode.
Vyzzuvazzadth
Yazzavedth Zayann
Damn, how could I miss that? It doesn't look like an automated camera adjustment as nothing else happens. Nice find!
Though I do remember Max Dood saying the camera is locked during Tactical Mode. Maybe I'm misremembering?
Those were part of the gameplay demonstration at E3 and not the 30th anniversary exhibition (which only showed those 8 artworks if I'm not mistaken) and I also included those ads in my analysis. I just forgot about the dog's name being Stamp.
Radigar
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The link is wrong I do not know why, it seems to link other of my replies, I mean this 30th anniversary exhibition reference:
Ite
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Maybe they changed it after feedback? Looks like they’ve made a few other alterations, as you pointed out.
OdaDaimyO
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When it comes to Tactical Mode, we shouldn't forget that time still advance, and it looks like the camera is adjusting accordingly to the targets movement. Additionally trying to show a more favorably perspective for the player, so that there's nothing hindering the player's view on the target.
Vyzzuvazzadth
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Ah, now I see what you mean. It makes sense now. I haven't seen those quotes before, so thank you for posting them!
That's a strong possibility and I do hope this is the case in the final product. *Readies his Share button*Maybe they changed it after feedback? Looks like they’ve made a few other alterations, as you pointed out.
That's another possibility. However, there's no conclusive evidence for that in the leaked footage as that locked on Mono Drive doesn't seem to move a certain way which warrants a camera adjustment. Then again, the blurry nature of the footage makes it hard do discern so I'll reserve judgment for mow.
Clean Cut Chaos
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I just noticed in the demo leak that at 2:31 you see a defeated soldier turn into green sparklies. Looks like he returned to the lifestream™!
Pizzachu
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Oh, neat! I remember seeing that, but I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me and it was just the reactor being all "glowy". Now that I think about it, it does make me feel pretty bad that we're killing them (not like we weren't in the original, though) and that we can see their spirit ascend. Poor generic enemies. D:
Clean Cut Chaos
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Looks like that is going to be a bigger theme this time around. They seem to be showing more remorse for the collateral damage they are causing.
pxp
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^^ so does this mean Bugenhagen is lying when he says that the body decays whereas the spirit returns to the Lifestream? Or am I being pedantic, and these are obviously just ‘dying’ animations to get enemies off the field/de-cluttering?
I think it’s worthy of speculating on though, IF this becomes the way life forms canonically return to the planet. But the likelihood is that it’s just the dying animation, right? Surely.
I think it’s worthy of speculating on though, IF this becomes the way life forms canonically return to the planet. But the likelihood is that it’s just the dying animation, right? Surely.
Clean Cut Chaos
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The Compilation has done a lot of turning into Lifestream right after death and I've never liked it. As you say, the body is still supposed to decay, the general vibe of Cosmo Canyon is that most people don't even know what the Lifestream is, or Elmyra thinking her husband will become a star in the sky. If dead people just immediately turn into stuff that looks an awful lot like the stuff in and around Mako reactors, how would anyone not put that together?
Now, that said, I don't care if that's how enemies disappear on the battlefield. As chaos says, they've gotta disappear somehow, and that's easily written off as a stylistic choice.
Now, that said, I don't care if that's how enemies disappear on the battlefield. As chaos says, they've gotta disappear somehow, and that's easily written off as a stylistic choice.
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OdaDaimyO
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It's strange either way, because the body isn't the only thing that disappears, but the clothes the deceased was wearing too. Looks like the Lifestream is in "high maintenance" when it comes to recycling things... something we could learn from. 
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Clean Cut Chaos
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Now we have to see if mechanical enemies do the same. If living things and non living things have different animations that would be some crazy attention to detail.
LicoriceAllsorts
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I'm pretty sure it's just a way of clearing the battlefield. When the plot requires bodies to hang around, they hang around: President Shinra, all the NPCs killed by Sephiroth in the Shinra Building, all the people killed by Dyne in Gold Saucer, etc.., etc...
And imagine if you lived in a world where all bodies dissolved as soon as they died. What would anyone eat? How could murders ever be solved?
And imagine if you lived in a world where all bodies dissolved as soon as they died. What would anyone eat? How could murders ever be solved?
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X-SOLDIER
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@Clean Cut Chaos the original game has the "shattering apart" death animation, as well as the "just fade away" animation for different enemies, so having some differentiation between the enemy death animations wouldn't be unprecedented.
I'd definitely appreciate the battle system differentiating between killing things that return to the lifestream from those that don't, because it's a good reminder to the player about the world, and sometimes interesting when learning about the enemies.
When it comes to things outside of common enemies who typically both appear and disappear inside the battle, I have to agree that the body dissipation thing shouldn't happen to them immediately. Aerith's death and funeral scene is a pretty important part of that. I've always thought that seeing the lifestream dissipation is a good representation of them being past the point of being revived (i.e. them passing on), but I also think that it's definitely been overused for things that aren't initially transubstantiated in form (like the Remnants in Advent Children).
Personally, I like the idea of seeing the Lifestream leave, and having their body remain behind any time we see someone die in the course of the game – especially because places like Gongaga and Corel Prison have graveyards, so we know that physical remains are a thing. Particularly, the deaths of the AVALANCHE crew are gonna be important, and I don't want them to feel ethereal. I want them to feel painfully physical, while also giving the clear indication that they're not just missing a phoenix down.
That being said, I also don't think that it's the sort of game where having a Reactor full of the corpses of MPs you fight is important in selling the message about what you're doing, so clearing out the battlefield area of NPC-level random encounters is still fine for hyper-accelerated death processes vis-a-vis getting lifestream'd.
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I'd definitely appreciate the battle system differentiating between killing things that return to the lifestream from those that don't, because it's a good reminder to the player about the world, and sometimes interesting when learning about the enemies.
When it comes to things outside of common enemies who typically both appear and disappear inside the battle, I have to agree that the body dissipation thing shouldn't happen to them immediately. Aerith's death and funeral scene is a pretty important part of that. I've always thought that seeing the lifestream dissipation is a good representation of them being past the point of being revived (i.e. them passing on), but I also think that it's definitely been overused for things that aren't initially transubstantiated in form (like the Remnants in Advent Children).
Personally, I like the idea of seeing the Lifestream leave, and having their body remain behind any time we see someone die in the course of the game – especially because places like Gongaga and Corel Prison have graveyards, so we know that physical remains are a thing. Particularly, the deaths of the AVALANCHE crew are gonna be important, and I don't want them to feel ethereal. I want them to feel painfully physical, while also giving the clear indication that they're not just missing a phoenix down.
That being said, I also don't think that it's the sort of game where having a Reactor full of the corpses of MPs you fight is important in selling the message about what you're doing, so clearing out the battlefield area of NPC-level random encounters is still fine for hyper-accelerated death processes vis-a-vis getting lifestream'd.
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OdaDaimyO
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I wouldn't mind that Aerith's "funeral" could end up being in her own dissolvement inside the lake (now after I read this sentence out loud, it sounds awful 
). What I mean is: After Cloud carries her and let the body sink to the bottom, Aerith transforms into Lifestream energy. This embraces the lake, glowing in a full green, where a handful of particles appear over the water surface and floating towards the sky, like fireflies on their last journey...
To let this beautiful scenery left behind, is her way to comforting her grieving comrades, and her chance to say 'goodbye' to them.
). What I mean is: After Cloud carries her and let the body sink to the bottom, Aerith transforms into Lifestream energy. This embraces the lake, glowing in a full green, where a handful of particles appear over the water surface and floating towards the sky, like fireflies on their last journey...To let this beautiful scenery left behind, is her way to comforting her grieving comrades, and her chance to say 'goodbye' to them.
Ite
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Ugh no. Sorry, I hate all this FFX dissolving crap. I would rather have the bodies lie there then fade away after 10 seconds like a normal goddamn video game. What they’ve done with the Lifestream in every post-FF7 entry has been embarrassing. Ugghhhh.
At least there are enough flying sparks and particle effects at all times that I probably won’t notice enemies dissolving. At least there’s that.
At least there are enough flying sparks and particle effects at all times that I probably won’t notice enemies dissolving. At least there’s that.
LicoriceAllsorts
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I don't really care tbh from a visual point of view, as long as there aren't bodies cluttering up my battlefield and making it hard to maneuver. But I do care when they are so inconsistent and then people start trying to create worldbuilding theories and headcanons on this muddled evidence.
Vyzzuvazzadth
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Completely forgot to post this here on Saturday.
For you guys, the most interesting part would be the details and screenshots from the instructional video in the preparation room preceding the demo station area.
For you guys, the most interesting part would be the details and screenshots from the instructional video in the preparation room preceding the demo station area.
pxp
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Sorry @Vyzzuvazzadth - I actually saw the pics on gfaqs late last night and didn’t realise it was yours so quickly put it here on another thread before bed. Awesome work as usual!