Taken from a guy who seen the movie at Gamefaqs.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=920785&topic=49085984Xenoserphia said:
Final Fantasy VII Advent Children Complete SCENE CHANGES COMPILATION. *SPOILERS*
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IndianaoftheJones
Banned
Wow thanks...
Man now I'm all pumped again. I hope this tides me over.
Man now I'm all pumped again. I hope this tides me over.
I thought it had to do with the Jenova cells in him but whatever.
Suzaku
Pro Adventurer
Geostigma is explicitly stated as not being contagious. This person just maybe didn't understand the scene.
Some other stuff from some summaries I've seen:
The conversation between Rufus and Kadaj is about destruction and creation and the tendency for mankind to repeat these paterns. It happens while they ride up the under-construction building in an elevator, and as they stand on the ledge.
The Great Northern Cave scene is longer, and has the new sequence with Elena and Tseng. There's also some new scenes of Rude in the helicopter.
The FFVII flashback scene with Marlene's narration now has Cait Sith's cave moogle doll, and other alterations/improvements.
Geostigma is shown much more graphically, with a new scene of a man suffering an attack and collapsing while black puss gushes out of him. He falls to the ground and is ignored by passers-by. Black puss also drips off Denzel's forehead and onto a towel. There's a scene where the Moogle Girl's little brother dies from Geostigma, and that's who she got the doll from.
The scene where Tifa answers Cloud's phone has been reworked, and there is now a news report on in the background, which discusses things like Geostigma.
The flashback to the scene of Denzel from OtWtaS happens when Cloud is riding through the Wastelands and his phone starts to ring.
Denzel dashes out of Seventh Heaven because he thinks he hears Fenrir, but it's actually Yazoo's motorcycle. He goes with the Moogle Girl and they talk in the back of Loz's truck at sunset.
As mentioned, the sequence with Cloud at Zack's grave is extended with scenes from Crisis Core, including Zack protecting Cloud from gunfire, hiding him and patting him on the head, as well as Zack's death. The dialogue is also changed to better reflect the events of Crisis Core, and Sephiroth asks him why he's pretending to feel sorry, and says it's not neccesary because he's just a puppet.
Immediately after the new scenes with Reno and Rude in Healin, in which they talk about things and mention being worried about Tseng and Elena, Kadaj infiltrates the building by seeping in through the door in the form of a black mist. This along with the new scenes in the Northern Cave and some of Kadaj's other feats seem to be intended to help convey that the Remnants are not exactly corporeal beings.
You can see dirt and mud on the clothing as the fight between Tifa and Loz goes on in the church.
The scene with the Remnants at the Forgotten Capital, where Kadaj imbeds a materia in his arm, is extended, and Loz mentions something that I believe foreshadows what Kadaj does later on with the remains of Jenova's head. Kadaj gets irritated at Loz.
The dialogue between Reno, Rude, and the Remnants at the Meteor monument is changed, and the line where Yazoo says, "his faith in you equals zero" is removed.
The scene where Cloud goes into Healin to meet Rufus is changed up a bit.
The structure of the fight against Bahamut Shin is mostly unchanged. As mentioned before, you can see it's armor gets broken apart and chipped off during the fight, though, changing it's appearance.
There's a scene where a Tifa is almost crushed by falling debris, and Cloud has a flashback to when Sephiroth killed Aerith. It spurns Cloud to protect Tifa. They both ride Fenrir to find Denzel's location.
At the monument, Denzel sees the destruction around him and has a flashback to the Sector Seven collapse, snapping him out of his daze.
There's a scene at Seventh Heaven with Marlene where she asks him if his Geostigma hurts, and he says it's not as bad as Denzel's. Cloud mentions that he can't save himself, and Marlene says something like, "a man who can't save himself can at least save others," and says it's something her father said. This leads to the dialogue with her in the more recent trailer.
At the under construction building, Kadaj pulls the materia out of his arm and plays with it like a ball while talking to Rufus.
The scene with Rufus leaping off the building has been changed so they don't scramble after him, and he instead climbs down on his own and stands up in front of all four Turks.
During the Highway Chase sequence, when Yazoo ramps his motorcycle into Reno and Rude's helicopter, it ends up causing them to crash and get thrown out of it onto the highway, then it explodes. Tseng and Elena arrive in another helicopter and Elena tosses them a rope.
In the fight with Sephiroth, the sound effects of his sword strikes is changed so that it produces a ringing sound. The battle is much more brutal. After Sephiroth impales Cloud and holds him up, there's a lot of blood.
After the credits, there's a new scene that opens with the cliff Zack died on, with yellow flowers all over it. The Buster Sword has been relocated to the church. Denzel and Cloud visit it, and Denzel asks if it's a grave. Cloud says it's where a hero began his journey.
Some other stuff from some summaries I've seen:
The conversation between Rufus and Kadaj is about destruction and creation and the tendency for mankind to repeat these paterns. It happens while they ride up the under-construction building in an elevator, and as they stand on the ledge.
The Great Northern Cave scene is longer, and has the new sequence with Elena and Tseng. There's also some new scenes of Rude in the helicopter.
The FFVII flashback scene with Marlene's narration now has Cait Sith's cave moogle doll, and other alterations/improvements.
Geostigma is shown much more graphically, with a new scene of a man suffering an attack and collapsing while black puss gushes out of him. He falls to the ground and is ignored by passers-by. Black puss also drips off Denzel's forehead and onto a towel. There's a scene where the Moogle Girl's little brother dies from Geostigma, and that's who she got the doll from.
The scene where Tifa answers Cloud's phone has been reworked, and there is now a news report on in the background, which discusses things like Geostigma.
The flashback to the scene of Denzel from OtWtaS happens when Cloud is riding through the Wastelands and his phone starts to ring.
Denzel dashes out of Seventh Heaven because he thinks he hears Fenrir, but it's actually Yazoo's motorcycle. He goes with the Moogle Girl and they talk in the back of Loz's truck at sunset.
As mentioned, the sequence with Cloud at Zack's grave is extended with scenes from Crisis Core, including Zack protecting Cloud from gunfire, hiding him and patting him on the head, as well as Zack's death. The dialogue is also changed to better reflect the events of Crisis Core, and Sephiroth asks him why he's pretending to feel sorry, and says it's not neccesary because he's just a puppet.
Immediately after the new scenes with Reno and Rude in Healin, in which they talk about things and mention being worried about Tseng and Elena, Kadaj infiltrates the building by seeping in through the door in the form of a black mist. This along with the new scenes in the Northern Cave and some of Kadaj's other feats seem to be intended to help convey that the Remnants are not exactly corporeal beings.
You can see dirt and mud on the clothing as the fight between Tifa and Loz goes on in the church.
The scene with the Remnants at the Forgotten Capital, where Kadaj imbeds a materia in his arm, is extended, and Loz mentions something that I believe foreshadows what Kadaj does later on with the remains of Jenova's head. Kadaj gets irritated at Loz.
The dialogue between Reno, Rude, and the Remnants at the Meteor monument is changed, and the line where Yazoo says, "his faith in you equals zero" is removed.
The scene where Cloud goes into Healin to meet Rufus is changed up a bit.
The structure of the fight against Bahamut Shin is mostly unchanged. As mentioned before, you can see it's armor gets broken apart and chipped off during the fight, though, changing it's appearance.
There's a scene where a Tifa is almost crushed by falling debris, and Cloud has a flashback to when Sephiroth killed Aerith. It spurns Cloud to protect Tifa. They both ride Fenrir to find Denzel's location.
At the monument, Denzel sees the destruction around him and has a flashback to the Sector Seven collapse, snapping him out of his daze.
There's a scene at Seventh Heaven with Marlene where she asks him if his Geostigma hurts, and he says it's not as bad as Denzel's. Cloud mentions that he can't save himself, and Marlene says something like, "a man who can't save himself can at least save others," and says it's something her father said. This leads to the dialogue with her in the more recent trailer.
At the under construction building, Kadaj pulls the materia out of his arm and plays with it like a ball while talking to Rufus.
The scene with Rufus leaping off the building has been changed so they don't scramble after him, and he instead climbs down on his own and stands up in front of all four Turks.
During the Highway Chase sequence, when Yazoo ramps his motorcycle into Reno and Rude's helicopter, it ends up causing them to crash and get thrown out of it onto the highway, then it explodes. Tseng and Elena arrive in another helicopter and Elena tosses them a rope.
In the fight with Sephiroth, the sound effects of his sword strikes is changed so that it produces a ringing sound. The battle is much more brutal. After Sephiroth impales Cloud and holds him up, there's a lot of blood.
After the credits, there's a new scene that opens with the cliff Zack died on, with yellow flowers all over it. The Buster Sword has been relocated to the church. Denzel and Cloud visit it, and Denzel asks if it's a grave. Cloud says it's where a hero began his journey.
IndianaoftheJones
Banned
Well now it's just depressing... but thanks, this is good to hear.
Loxetta
Pro Adventurer
That's a great ending.
A very great ending
The Zackification of ACC is made of such win. The original AC didn't really make him seem that important..........Holy crap.
**Am I the only one that finds it odd that they decided to start it with Rufus and Kadaj? I dunno, maybe I have to see it and how it's pulled off, but it sounds really... left field.**
EDIT: ...Disregard the above starred snip. I thought they had replaced the Northern Crater scene. I really gotta learn how to read.
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IndianaoftheJones
Banned
Is anyone else obsessively refreshing the page?
Loxetta
Pro Adventurer
WHY?!?!?!
I don't know. It seemed to make a lot of sense.
Celes Chere
Banned
- AKA
- Noctis
Lmao, you caught me.
I'm really pleased with the ending, and the flowers on Zack's grave. I'm also thrilled that Zack's sword as been moved to the new location.
Kinda sucks that Yazoo's line was taken away, I liked that in the original movie.Ah, well. I also liked Tseng and Elena rescuing Rufus.
IndianaoftheJones
Banned
I noticed none of the fansubbers got Yazoo's line right though. It always said, "What? Don't you trust us?" which made no sense at all.
Celes Chere
Banned
- AKA
- Noctis
Haha, well it is kind of hard to understand what Yazoo is actually saying there, which is I believe,
"What? Aren't the peons trusted?"
"What? Aren't the peons trusted?"
Dark and Divine
Pro Adventurer
- AKA
- D&D
Wow! Lots of interesting stuff! Can't wait to see some of the scenes!
On the other hand, i'm sort of tempted to post this in the front page, will all the necessary spoiler warnings and the info after a cut, but i'll wait for other staff members' opinions.
On the other hand, i'm sort of tempted to post this in the front page, will all the necessary spoiler warnings and the info after a cut, but i'll wait for other staff members' opinions.
- The theme of the scene where Cloud found Tifa after she got attacked by Loz (and when Cloud's Geostigma effect takes place) has changed from the song "Water" to a Nibelheim theme (another rearranged).
New theme? Wonder what it sounds like.
A rearrangedment of "Holding My thoughts In My Heart"? Maybe?
Wait wait wait 
Wouldn't that be a reference to Cloud as the hero? Because that's where Zack dies and was all like "You're the living proof of my legacy" and etc. That's where he starts living he starts living Zack's legacy. Because he's a live. It's the beginning of Cloud's journey (as a hero).
It'd be weird to refer to Zack and say "beginning of journey" when he just died on that spot.
So like, if he's referring to Zack, is he referring to Zack as himself...what?
I'm confused. I'm slow. Someone explain it to me?
Wouldn't that be a reference to Cloud as the hero? Because that's where Zack dies and was all like "You're the living proof of my legacy" and etc. That's where he starts living he starts living Zack's legacy. Because he's a live. It's the beginning of Cloud's journey (as a hero).
It'd be weird to refer to Zack and say "beginning of journey" when he just died on that spot.
So like, if he's referring to Zack, is he referring to Zack as himself...what?
I'm confused. I'm slow. Someone explain it to me?