Final Fantasy VII Settei Gashuu

[Ⓐaron]

Reeve and Heidegger aren't Japanese last names. Heidegger is German and I have no idea what nationality Reeve is.

 

[Tennyo]

I always thought Tuesti sounded Italian, but I could be totally off about that.

 

[ForceStealer]

I've heard of Reeve as a first name, I always assumed it was his first name. They were obviously on a first name basis with Scarlet. I figured all the executives were going by first names. But I had always assumed Hojo was his last name, because "Professor [First name]" is weird.

Gast Faremis was the one that surprised me. I had gone years thinking Aerith's "real" last name was Gast.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Gast Faremis was the one that surprised me. I had gone years thinking Aerith's "real" last name was Gast.

her actual name sounds too much like 'air is fair mist' for me to be comfortable

or it just sounds really weird to me while i am tired

 

[Tennyo]

Wait, Gast Faremis? Where did this come from? The book in the OP or something else?

 

[ForceStealer]

Crisis Core Complete Guide, I wanna say...

 

[Lord Noctis]

So in other words, Proffesors can be called by their first name in the FFVII universe. Keep in mind, it being a different world from our the customs regarding names and titles may be slightly different in some areas.

 

[Frostwave]

Crisis Core Complete Guide, I wanna say...

Yeah, that's it. He's an entry in the Keyword Collection of the Guide.

 

[ForceStealer]

Unless, of course, the Japanese got mixed up with the naming conventions and he's actually Faremis Gast

 

[Obsidian Fire]

Hojo gives off the vibe of someone who would use their last name as opposed to their first name. Also, who would want to be on a first name basis with the guy anyway? And since Hojo married Lucrecia, he is Sephiroth's legal father so Sephiroth's last name should be Hojo. Everybody else in the game has their father's last name.

As it is, there are plenty of other people who we know only use their last names. President Shinra does, as do Heidegger and Palmer. I've also always thought that Scarlet was a nick-name. Reeve is the odd one out, but then again, he's the odd one out of the whole group of Shin-Ra executives.

Unless, of course, the Japanese got mixed up with the naming conventions and he's actually Faremis Gast

Well, in the Japanese version of CC, they use Western name order (Given, Family) instead of Japanese name order (Family, Given). So for all we know, someone missed the memo...

 

[Eerie]

I'm not saying it hsan't been done, or isn't done. Its wierd because it makes no sense in my mind that the child would adopt the fathers surname if the father is not married to the mother. Its nothing to do with custom or tradition, it just seems wierd to me.

Thanks, I'll tell that to my daughter. Geez, this is a bit ridiculous.

I never once thought that Hojo was his first name - never, ever, because when you say "professor" it's usually followed by the last name - or full name.

I actually always thought that Gast was his last name ._.

This is confusing ._.

 

[Lord Noctis]

Thanks, I'll tell that to my daughter. Geez, this is a bit ridiculous.

I never once thought that Hojo was his first name - never, ever, because when you say "professor" it's usually followed by the last name - or full name.

I actually always thought that Gast was his last name ._.

This is confusing ._.

Yes it sure is ridiculous I just happen to find something wierd. How dare I. I mean, I should just have the exact same concept of what is or is not wierd as everyone else.

Also, whats this about your daughter? Why should she care if I find something wierd? Why would you want to tell her I find something wierd?

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Wait, Gast Faremis? Where did this come from? The book in the OP or something else?

One of the ultimanias.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

I still think that the discrepancy between Prof. Gast & Prof. Hojo in the use of first/last names is rather odd. I haven't heard of the book being mentioned, but It might be worth investigating further.


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[LicoriceAllsorts]

Turks are men (and women) of mystery.
They don't give out their real names.
Sometimes all they go by is the name of their weapon. Cool or what?

They don't have last names. Or maybe you could say they don't have first names. They just have a name, like your dog has a name. Because they are the lapdogs of the Shinra, and Rufus needs to use an identifier when he calls them to heel.

 

[ForceStealer]

Also the fact the Lucrecia calls him Hojo would suggest it is his first name, but it should still be his last name, imo.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Also the fact the Lucrecia calls him Hojo would suggest it is his first name, but it should still be his last name, imo.

or his first name could be so hideously embarrassing that he insists everyone call him by his last name. Everyone.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

For what it's worth, pg. 198 of VII's Ultimania Omega refers to Lucrecia as Hojo's wife, so no matter what naming conventions you follow, if Sephiroth were to have a last name, it would be his father's. Now, that doesn't really settle the matter of whether "Hojo" is his first name or his last, but given that it is an actual Japanese surname and is written with the corresponding Kanji (宝&#26465 for such in-game and in other official materials, I'm going to say it's his last name.

As for this "Settei Gashuu," I've never heard of it and can't find anything concrete about it. I don't believe it exists.

 

[Ryushikaze]

her actual name sounds too much like 'air is fair mist' for me to be comfortable

or it just sounds really weird to me while i am tired

I've always (Since we learned about it) read Faremis as having three syllables. Fa-ree-mis (though fa-re-mis is also likely)


As for the question, a google search for the book brings up mostly Vandred collections, THIS THREAD, and the edit on the FF Wiki itself.

I call bullshit.

For what it's worth, pg. 198 of VII's Ultimania Omega refers to Lucrecia as Hojo's wife, so no matter what naming conventions you follow, if Sephiroth were to have a last name, it would be his father's. Now, that doesn't really settle the matter of whether "Hojo" is his first name or his last, but given that it is an actual Japanese surname and is written with the corresponding Kanji (宝&#26465 for such in-game and in other official materials, I'm going to say it's his last name.

Assuming Lucrecia took Hojo's last name, anyways. Naming conventions don't always follow exactly. My brothers and I are a hyphen shy of dual surnames like my mother has. As it is, we all share a middle name instead.

Even if she did take his surname, Hojo might not give his last name to Sephiroth.

 

[Tifabelle]

I've always (Since we learned about it) read Faremis as having three syllables. Fa-ree-mis (though fa-re-mis is also likely)

Oh I've been saying it like fair-eh-mis. But then no one likes the way I pronounce names so

Even if she did take his surname, Hojo might not give his last name to Sephiroth.

Considering Sephiroth doesn't know that Hojo's his papa, I'm gonna assume that he doesn't have Hojo's last name (whether it be Hojo or something else). He would more likely have Crescent, something made up, or he don't need no stinkin' last name.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Considering Sephiroth doesn't know that Hojo's his papa, I'm gonna assume that he doesn't have Hojo's last name (whether it be Hojo or something else). He would more likely have Crescent, something made up, or he don't need no stinkin' last name.

Did he not know? I remember when someone asked him who his father was he just laughed about it and said that it basically didn't matter, only his 'mother' Jenova did.

So I assumed he knew it was Hojo, he just hated him, so it'd be unlikely he'd take the name 'Sephiroth Hojo'.

 

[ForceStealer]

I didn't think he knew...Hojo doesn't seem to think he knows either. I thought it was possible he learned in his trip through the Lifestream, but I dunno why they'd tell him that if they lied about his mother.

Oh I've been saying it like fair-eh-mis. But then no one likes the way I pronounce names so

That's pretty much how I've been saying it.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Oh I've been saying it like fair-eh-mis. But then no one likes the way I pronounce names so

Honestly, depending on the region, Faremis could come out pronounced a lot of ways.

Considering Sephiroth doesn't know that Hojo's his papa, I'm gonna assume that he doesn't have Hojo's last name (whether it be Hojo or something else). He would more likely have Crescent, something made up, or he don't need no stinkin' last name.

I'm angling on having none, actually. I wonder if that's common for the ShinRa orphans (who are not given backstories) such as Cissnei and whatever her real name is.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

In conclusion: Hojo and Lucrecia were married, Seph has no legal last name but if he did it would either be Hojo or Crescent-Hojo, "Faremis" is a stupid name, and -- as predicted by Stuff White People Like -- it's going to be really entertaining when hyphenates grow up and start getting married to one another.

 

[ForceStealer]

Faremis wouldn't bother me if it were his first name, as we're never going to hear it. Of course, SE is also trying its damndest to pretend Gast didn't exist, so I guess it won't matter anyway.

and -- as predicted by Stuff White People Like -- it's going to be really entertaining when hyphenates grow up and start getting married to one another.

I hate this trend. Pet peeve, I dunno. Makes me chauvinist I guess.