Final Fantasy XIII-2

[Ffxiii1ll]

Yeah I'm not a fan of Square-Enix politics neither. I love their games but I really feel like a milch cow sometimes ( don't know if milch cow is english, I used translator lol )

 

[Lex]

The problem with their DLC is that it doesn't add much at all to the game. If you compare it to a game like Mass Effect it just looks ridiculously stupid in comparison.

XIII-2: £4.99 For Lightning repeats the same battle 10 times DLC, lets you do 2 fights and add them to the game. Maybe 45 minutes of extra if you stretch it out, and there's barely anything extra in it.

Mass Effect 3: £6.99 for Leviathan DLC, adds about 4 hours of extra stuff to the game (this is on a normal playthrough), including recorded VA for every one of your characters (even though you only get to take two with you), several missions (that aren't carbon copies of each other) and a brand new side story. Leviathan is also the shortest DLC released for ME3.

Then you've got the microtransaction shit like the costumes in XIII-2, and I suppose an equivalent could be the ME3 Multiplayer DLC, except THAT'S FREE.

Seriously, while I bought it all and enjoyed the DLC in XIII-2, the content it actually added (aside from maybe the Lightning DLC) I gave no shits about.

 

[Ffxiii1ll]

Yep that's a good summary...

 

[Arianna]

There is a fatal flaw in this view.

This is an English site.

English speaking fans don't get no novels.

Seriously. We should.

I really wonder what it would take to have SE release (be it through licensing or via actually doing it themselves) their novels and other extra stuff to the rest of the world?

 

[Splintered]

The problem with their DLC is that it doesn't add much at all to the game. If you compare it to a game like Mass Effect it just looks ridiculously stupid in comparison.

XIII-2: £4.99 For Lightning repeats the same battle 10 times DLC, lets you do 2 fights and add them to the game. Maybe 45 minutes of extra if you stretch it out, and there's barely anything extra in it.

Mass Effect 3: £6.99 for Leviathan DLC, adds about 4 hours of extra stuff to the game (this is on a normal playthrough), including recorded VA for every one of your characters (even though you only get to take two with you), several missions (that aren't carbon copies of each other) and a brand new side story. Leviathan is also the shortest DLC released for ME3.

Then you've got the microtransaction shit like the costumes in XIII-2, and I suppose an equivalent could be the ME3 Multiplayer DLC, except THAT'S FREE.

Seriously, while I bought it all and enjoyed the DLC in XIII-2, the content it actually added (aside from maybe the Lightning DLC) I gave no shits about.

Squeenix definitely hasn't gotten use to the dlc thing. I actually have no problems with weapons and costumes dlc, it's useless fanservice that doesn't add to the experience, so its completely up to the user to buy or not. I have no problem with them making money off of that

The problem is the story dlc, which is not story dlc really. You need the Lightning dlc to understand the ending of the game, but the actual campaign is threadbare. Combat is okay but it's definitely not worth the price, and I bought most of the dlc.

There were story dlc ideas that seemed like they were trying, Hope was suppose to get a dlc a live trigger adventure episode, and Snow was suppose to get a story and a minigame, but they were both scrapped. It was like they were planning a Mass Effect quality dlc and then just didn't know what to do with it.

Then they scrap dlc for LR altogether, to me it sounds like they just aren't comfortable with it yet.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Seriously. We should.

I really wonder what it would take to have SE release (be it through licensing or via actually doing it themselves) their novels and other extra stuff to the rest of the world?

My guess is a) offering to do all the translation work and b) offering to pay SE for the license to publish, either outright or through a share of the profits (maybe both).

 

[Arianna]

My guess is a) offering to do all the translation work and b) offering to pay SE for the license to publish, either outright or through a share of the profits (maybe both).

Definitely the pay up part. (Still, we could ask?!)

 

[Arianna]

New stuff! So, I got bored and decided to try and translate the Cocoon script from a screenshot of Proto fal'Cie Adam's viewpoint of Serah's now vanished brand.

And this is what I got:

Kurita
Kawai
Lagae

Kawai is cute, but... isn't it supposed to have two "i"s at the end?

I do not know about the other two. I tried www.jisho.org, and Lagae didn't turn anything up, but Kurita did come up with Kururi which means beautiful, round eyes...

http://jisho.org/words?jap=%E3%81%8F%E3%82%8B&origin=kurita&eng=&dict=edict

Yes, I know, stay away from online translators and such... I was told Denshi Jisho is good though.

 

[Strangelove]

'Kawai' and 'Kurita' sound like Japanese surnames. Perhaps they are just the names of staff members?

I remember trying to decode what was written on the floors in the last stage, and it was mostly nonsense. They don't seem to have tried at all there.

 

[Kuja9001]

Questions

Does the Ultimania go detail about the following?

Caius surviving his ordeal

The Fal'Cie/Fal'Cie Gods

Anything Yeul related

Anything Caius related

The Power of Chaos

 

[Strangelove]

I'm thinking about getting the Ultimania Omega, which I was avoiding because I hadn't got/beaten Light's DLC then didn't have the money for, but I can afford it (and the second novel).

I should take another look at the first Ultimania too.

 

[Kuja9001]

I'm thinking about getting the Ultimania Omega, which I was avoiding because I hadn't got/beaten Light's DLC then didn't have the money for, but I can afford it (and the second novel).

I should take another look at the first Ultimania too.

 

[Strangelove]

After looking at IMDB's staff list for XIII-2:

Masaki Kawai .... lead visual effects artist: cutscenes
Naoki Kurita .... lead visual effects artist

Without seeing the screenshot, I would guess the third text is another name of a visual effects staff member who snuck their names into the game.

 

[Arianna]

After looking at IMDB's staff list for XIII-2:

Masaki Kawai .... lead visual effects artist: cutscenes
Naoki Kurita .... lead visual effects artist

Without seeing the screenshot, I would guess the third text is another name of a visual effects staff member who snuck their names into the game.

I lost my original picture, but here's one...

There was a whole scrolling list in this part.

 

[Storm XIII]

I'm thinking about getting the Ultimania Omega, which I was avoiding because I hadn't got/beaten Light's DLC then didn't have the money for, but I can afford it (and the second novel).

I should take another look at the first Ultimania too.

Thanks so much, lol.

 

[Strangelove]

I downloaded the video and tried to screencap some myself, and found two other names:

Fujii
Susumu Fujii .... VFX artist: VFX & composites

Torikai
Tatsuro Torikai .... VFX artist: VFX & composites

Based on these, I'm going to suggest that 'Lagae' (which is what I read as well) should be 'Sagae':

Shota Sagae .... VFX artist: VFX & composites

I also found what looks like 'takalhin'? Which, if we assume that 'l' and 's' are mixed up again, would be 'takashin' (there are several staff members named 'Takashi').

The red text is harder to read, but I think the first part is 'alba'?

idk why i enjoyed this as much as i did

 

[Arianna]

I downloaded the video and tried to screencap some myself, and found two other names:

Fujii
Susumu Fujii .... VFX artist: VFX & composites

Torikai
Tatsuro Torikai .... VFX artist: VFX & composites

Based on these, I'm going to suggest that 'Lagae' (which is what I read as well) should be 'Sagae':

Shota Sagae .... VFX artist: VFX & composites

I also found what looks like 'takalhin'? Which, if we assume that 'l' and 's' are mixed up again, would be 'takashin' (there are several staff members named 'Takashi').

The red text is harder to read, but I think the first part is 'alba'?

idk why i enjoyed this as much as i did

Cool! Yeah, I know, it's fun, but it's so totally not deserving of the time it gets. No one will die or live because these things have been translated or not. It is a neat hobby though; an interesting bit of detail they put in!

 

[Strangelove]

If people can extract the character models from the game, can they also extract the textures and visual effects? By which I mean anything with text on it like signs or billboards or monitors?

because that would be nifty

 

[Kuja9001]

I'm making a general information type of package that will contain questions regarding the plots from XIII & XIII-2.

I need YOU(the posters) to submit plot related questions to me that you think that a newbie would ask.

Examples as well the format I'll be using.

Final Fantasy XIII

Q: How did the party revert back into humans during the finale?

A: The party mixed their powers/willpower with the Goddess Etro's powers and brought fought a miracle.

Q: Who is the "Maker?"

A: When its used by someone of Cocoon origins, it refers to Lindzei, the being that created Cocoon and Humans. When used by someone of Gran Pulse origins, it refers to Hollowed Pulse or Pulse, the being that created the Pulse fal'Cie and the guy that branded the party.

Final Fantasy XIII-2

Q: Why didn't Noel inherit the "Heart Of Chaos" after he defeated Caius?

A: The heart is only transferable if the new guardian lacks conviction or a strong will.

If you return to the Dying World before facing Caius and examine the oracle drive, the cutscene that follows explains it.

Q: Why does Snow have a Pulse l'Cie Brand again?

A: He went on a journey to find Lightning and met up with a Cactuar that turned out to be a Pulse fal'Cie, during his adventures with the Cactuar, Snow fell into a time loop where he witnessed Serah die so he asked the fal'Cie to re-brand him with the Focus of fighting with Serah during her battle with Caius.

 

[ForceStealer]

So if Lindzei or the Pulse-maker is the "Maker," who's Etro? How does she fit in.

I liked the whole fal'cie demigods pantheon thing the first 13 dealt with that had a bunch of godlike entities that just fulfilled very specific functions, but the actual gods and goddesses and stuff lost me.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Q: Why didn't Noel inherit the "Heart Of Chaos" after he defeated Caius?

A: The heart is only transferable if the new guardian lacks conviction or a strong will.

If you return to the Dying World before facing Caius and examine the oracle drive, the cutscene that follows explains it.

This bit has never made sense to me no matter how it got explained.

Noel can't kill Caius if he lacks the conviction because killing Caius requires destroying the Heart. Otherwise, Caius just keeps on living. But being able to kill Caius means being able to destroy the Heart. And destroying the Heart means there is no Heart to pass on.

So, how does Noel receive it in that one Paradox Ending?

Also, Noel ultimately didn't have the conviction to kill Caius in the real ending. He stopped at the last second. Caius then grabbed Noel's blade and skewered himself. Not only did Noel lack the will to deliver the killing blow, in the end, Caius just killed himself with Noel an unwilling participant.

How is it that the Heart is destroyed and why didn't Caius just do this shit himself at the start? Noel's will was clearly irrelevant.

The most important part of the plot makes no sense. Good luck with the FAQ, though. I hope you have fun doing it. I enjoy writing them.

 

[Kuja9001]

This bit has never made sense to me no matter how it got explained.

Noel can't kill Caius if he lacks the conviction because killing Caius requires destroying the Heart. Otherwise, Caius just keeps on living. But being able to kill Caius means being able to destroy the Heart. And destroying the Heart means there is no Heart to pass on.

So, how does Noel receive it in that one Paradox Ending?

Also, Noel ultimately didn't have the conviction to kill Caius in the real ending. He stopped at the last second. Caius then grabbed Noel's blade and skewered himself. Not only did Noel lack the will to deliver the killing blow, in the end, Caius just killed himself with Noel an unwilling participant.

How is it that the Heart is destroyed and why didn't Caius just do this shit himself at the start? Noel's will was clearly irrelevant.

The most important part of the plot makes no sense. Good luck with the FAQ, though. I hope you have fun doing it. I enjoy writing them.

1. Notice the differences in the way Noel acts in Dying World(He doesn't want to follow the rules), in Oerba(Still don't wanna follow dem rules and have a deathmatch), and during the finale(He's gotten tough over the journey and he's ready to face Caius)

2. He can't self terminate for some reason.

So if Lindzei or the Pulse-maker is the "Maker," who's Etro? How does she fit in.

I liked the whole fal'cie demigods pantheon thing the first 13 dealt with that had a bunch of godlike entities that just fulfilled very specific functions, but the actual gods and goddesses and stuff lost me.

I don't know.

 

[Arianna]

So if Lindzei or the Pulse-maker is the "Maker," who's Etro? How does she fit in.

I liked the whole fal'cie demigods pantheon thing the first 13 dealt with that had a bunch of godlike entities that just fulfilled very specific functions, but the actual gods and goddesses and stuff lost me.

Etro could make nothing, so - I hate to say it this way, but in regards to this subject, she is nothing. She does not fit in. She is not the maker of anything... But then, we're told recently that the Eidolins (at least the bodies they had in XIII and XIII-2) were created by Etro, so... Retcon! But anyhow:

Pulse = Pulse fal'Cie and the physical worlds
Lindzei = Cocoon/Sanctum fal'Cie and humans
Etro = Eidolins

1. Notice the differences in the way Noel acts in Dying World(He doesn't want to follow the rules), in Oerba(Still don't wanna follow dem rules and have a deathmatch), and during the finale(He's gotten tough over the journey and he's ready to face Caius)

Noel can't kill Caius if he lacks the conviction because killing Caius requires destroying the Heart. Otherwise, Caius just keeps on living. But being able to kill Caius means being able to destroy the Heart. And destroying the Heart means there is no Heart to pass on. ... So, how does Noel receive it in that one Paradox Ending? ... How is it that the Heart is destroyed and why didn't Caius just do this shit himself at the start? Noel's will was clearly irrelevant.

In that paradox ending, Noel got the heart because he didn't move fast enough to get away from it. It was not destroyed. That was not the point of the fight in that time line. It was explained in the datalog, or the Ultimania, I forget, but I remember someone saying that this is how it was transferred to him. My guess is instead of what happens in the main timeline, he spent time lamenting and/or caring for Caius' body after death - in other words, touched him or something and the heart transferred.

 

[Strangelove]

Etro gave people hearts (Chaos).

 

[Kuja9001]

My Q & A setup