Was he just a driver or did he do a lot of coding an shit for it too? I mean, even with him leaving and what happened, if he really worked on it and put effort into the Discourse one, I feel like it might be a slap in the face to say "no it's shit, let's do Xen"
I agree that Flintlock (and other members) have spent too much time on Discourse for us to just throw it away
From the two posts in slight favor of Discourse the sentiment already comes back around to sunk cost fallacy. The big reason yall are saying we should try it is because it would feel bad to throw away that work, not that the software was genuinely worth using.
That's why I said in my first super negative post I want to skip Discourse all together because when were already there the discussion can easily go from "is this actually good" to "Yeah but people put in effort".
Like no offense to anyone , but i personally believe the amount of time working on something isn't relevant in the discussion on whether or not that something is worth using.
I mean Flints an adult and stuff, additionally the goal of this discussion isn't to make sure people don't feel bad. It's to find and use the better, easier to use, implement and work with software for our community. In all of those categories Xen beats Discourse.
It's just way to many cons than pros it looks like.
Cons.
It doesn't look good, it doesn't feel good, it's apparently a pain to work with in many departments behind the scenes in addition to bunk in front of the scenes, it's already racked up a decent bill just sitting there for months on end, and it's completely different from contemporary forum structures that the rest of the still using forums part of the internet uses. And it doesn't even really have unique features that Xen doesn't have either apparently
Pros.
It's free, and Flint and crew put a lot of hard work into it.
And again I'm not discounting the work that was put in or trying to say the work itself is bad. I'm saying the software is bad, and the reason the site looks and feels like that on Discourse is not for a lack of skill on any of the contributors part. It's just clear that they had to wrestle with the software the whole way through.
And furthermore, Idk what happened with Flint and stuff but if he was the main driver of the software and was putting in all the work and left. And that's what were stuck with? And we gotta find someone else to make it work? That's an even bigger con.
Idk if theres another version of the Discourse site or something that's more up to date, but if it's the one that was linked earlier there's no way we can go live with that. o.O
Reset was made in the wake of really big , articles are getting published about it, Neogaf drama IIRC. With that in mind and the huge userbase of Neogaf they didn't want it to be an easy place for trolls to slip in easily so non-throwaway ,unique , emails are required to register there. It's not a Xenforo thing, just something thats specific to Reset to help filter trolls since it's a massive community.
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I really want to just reiterate im not trying to be an ass on purpose guys. I just suck massively European dicks at expressing myself. I hope you can look past the rough edges of my points and see the merit of what im trying to say.
I just feel like we can do waaaay better than software whose only real pro is that it's free. If we were just another version of ACF again that's just another form of FB for us like FFoF , of FCF or what ever were then I wouldn't care.
But clearly TLS aspires to be more than that with the high quality work we continually put out and strive to create. And with potentially the biggest news this community has ever had, and has been waiting years upon years for now is definitely not the time to just settle.
