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"General" Sephiroth?

waw

Pro Adventurer
Assigning chess-master levels of intelligence or our personal level of caring for details and minutia about SOLDIER to President Shinra is outright bizarre. We knew from the Original Game that President Shinra... tends not to care so much about details and instead values results. Between his dismissive interaction with Cloud in the Original Game's version of his confrontation with Avalanche before Airbuster, to his meetings with Reeve where he outright ignores the expert telling him that dropping the Sector 7 Plate is a terrible idea both ethically AND in terms of engineering/ infrastructure. When he wants something done or has a particular aim... he's going to ignore what others tell him. So, why would he care about the differences between two different genetic types of SOLDIER? That's Hojo's job, not his.

I think we may be at an impasse over the President, but your reasonings here is why I think he'd have a deeper knowledge of SOLDIER than you're assigning to him. Sure, he may not be able to identify all members, or S from G type. But after the failures of SOLDIER, problems in the organization, it's frankly ridiculous that he wouldn't have more oversight or awareness of it.

Similar to Heidegger crying about reports.... folks don't really get into their positions by being cartoonishly incompetent.
 
@ Cae Lumis

Between his dismissive interaction with Cloud in the Original Game's version of his confrontation with Avalanche before Airbuster, to his meetings with Reeve where he outright ignores the expert telling him that dropping the Sector 7 Plate is a terrible idea both ethically AND in terms of engineering/ infrastructure. When he wants something done or has a particular aim... he's going to ignore what others tell him. So, why would he care about the differences between two different genetic types of SOLDIER? That's Hojo's job, not his.

Because they are completely different things? He doesn't consider moral ethics to be relevant (or real, even) and he plans to move ahead with NeoMidgar, so it doesn't matter if Midgar is damaged by the platedrop. He has his strategy in place. He is, however, interested in what Reeve has to say, even if he ultimately decides to ignore it. He makes his decisions from a place of information, not ignorance. His dismissive attitude towards Cloud is clearly a piece of theatrics.

In real life, we've seen plenty of rich and powerful men run corporate empires while having the brains of an incompetent and unable to plan further ahead than a quick buck.

Have we? Can you give some named examples of men or women who have built up hugely successful and powerful empires, corporate or otherwise, and died while still at the height of their power, while being completely incompetent and unable to plan ahead?

There's nothing bizarre about assuning that highly successful men and women are intelligent and good at strategising.
 

Roger

He/him
AKA
Minato
In real life, we've seen plenty of rich and powerful men run corporate empires while having the brains of an incompetent and unable to plan further ahead than a quick buck. I can easily imagine the most powerful man in the world, who's Company is a literal empire and de facto rules the world to have a major case of Power Desensitizing his ability to care about the SOLDIERs in his employ. Some SOLDIERs from a certain Progenitor-Type deteriorate due to some issue from said Progenitor that causes them to either die or be sent to be made "useful" down in the bowls of DeepGround and can be easily replaced by the dozen or so hopefuls who willingly want to become a SOLDIER themselves as far as he's concerned, and how is he supposed to know at just a far-away glance what kind of SOLDIER-Type Cloud is? Outwardly, G and S type SOLDIERs probably look the same to him and in all likelihood AREN'T outwardly different from each other (and that's not even taking the dehumanizing helmets that further obscure their appearance into account).

In all likelihood, he brought up G-Type degradation in an attempt of a power move against Cloud by doing a "I know something you're hiding, your time on this Earth isn't that long and your resistance to Shinra is pointless, so why continue?" and having a 50/50 chance of being correct in his guess. If he's wrong and Cloud's actually a stable S-Type instead? Ah well, the giant mecha he's about to unleash will burn his body anyway.

We aren't talking about caring about individual soldiers. He saying they are by and large all dying and very short lifespans. If the means by which I win wars was set disappear in short time, that's cause for worry. Or at least cause enough to reread the report and see that in fact, this information is complete bogus. The grand number of active SOLDIERs on duty that had ever suffered from degradation while in service to Shinra is 1. And that guy is still alive 7 years later.

Assigning chess-master levels of intelligence or our personal level of caring for details and minutia about SOLDIER to President Shinra is outright bizarre. We knew from the Original Game that President Shinra... tends not to care so much about details and instead values results. Between his dismissive interaction with Cloud in the Original Game's version of his confrontation with Avalanche before Airbuster, to his meetings with Reeve where he outright ignores the expert telling him that dropping the Sector 7 Plate is a terrible idea both ethically AND in terms of engineering/ infrastructure. When he wants something done or has a particular aim... he's going to ignore what others tell him. So, why would he care about the differences between two different genetic types of SOLDIER? That's Hojo's job, not his.

The massively reduced lifespan, the leading cause of death among SOLDIERs and the expendency that the whole SOLDIER corps in gonna be gone soon is a result, not a detail. Going "Hey Hojo, is this true? Should we do something about this?" doesn't require chessmaster level of intelligence.
 
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