Hidden Script Guide

[Shademp]

This thread is devoted to listing all the sections of FFVII's script that is unavailable in a normal playthrough.
They may be seen either by using cheats or going as far to search the game's files. I use links and videos when I consider it appropriate.
My examples are taken from the NTSC version, but I assume that any differences in the PC version are not that major.
Expect updates to this thread. The game script is copied exactly so any weird spelling is intentional.

Most is really trivial stuff, other parts are quite interesting. Enjoy.

1) Script through cheats
a) Field script
b) Location names in menu
2) Debug Room and searching game files
3) Miscellaneous
4) Resources

1) Script through cheats

a) Field script

---Leaving 7th Heaven---

Explanation: When Tifa and Cloud are about to reminisce their promise, leaving 7th Heaven will cause an event. In the english version most of it just consists of empty dialogue boxes, except at the very end. The japanese version has text, and has been translated in the video below.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y1k5Y6C_Pg&feature=PlayList&p=05177041D0BEB9EA&index=4

---Entering Honey Bee Inn without permission---

Explanation: Whether you own a Member Card or not, passing by the guard without permission and entering Honey Bee Inn will result in a weird scene.

Scene:
Cloud is standing still at the entrance. The background turns red in tone. The ringing sound effect and then the "Cloud's ghost" sound effect is played, like those in the "The &$#% Room".
Cloud looks around confused, turns 180 degrees, looks around, then stand stills. One of the Bee-dressed females approach him.
(Bee)
"Sir......"
"Choose the BEST 'flavor' from the
4 rooms."
"But you can only choose
from an unoccupied room."
The bee walks back to the centre.

This scene only happens once and can be triggered from any door. If you stand in the upper part of the area, you will see the ghost of Cloud running from the position outside of the dressing room, with Buster sword in hand. The ghost then stops above the centre of the room, lifts his arms to his head, shakes and then disappears.

Aside from all this, the script and events from here on are the same as always.

---Yuffie in awe---

Explanation: When seeing the impaled giant snake on your way to Mythril Mine your party members can express their feelings about this sight. Yuffie does not have any lines earlier in the story, nor in the Mythril Mine, yet she has a line here!

Yuffie
"Geeeeez, Louise!"

---Second Shinra grunt at the Nibelheim bridge---

Explanation: When Tifa is leading the party to the Nibel Reactor, at one point both Shinra grunts are visible on the screen but only one can be spoken with because the other is in your way.

---Zangan---

Explanation: By entering the building to the left that is on fire, Zangan will comment your presence. Even if Zangan hasn't run into the building yet, this line can be triggered. Usually the camera man, man in white, is in the way for this to happen.

---Cargo ship, dead commander---

Explanation: Approaching this commander below the deck will usually trigger the event that leads to the Jenova battle. If this event is not triggered you can talk to the commander. The dead sure are talkative.

---Ride the Shinra yacht? No.---

Explanation: In the Costa del Sol harbor, a sailor can be seen tending a small yacht. The game has made him unreachable, but that's nothing a few cheats can't solve! (He seems to be there throughout the whole game)

Script:
(Sailor)
"Ride the Shinra ship?
1> Yeah, I could go for that
2> Don't think I could steer it

1>
(Sailor)
"Oh......is that so?"
"Yep!
Actually, we do have an old junker
we're gonna get rid of,
And I was thinking about
going into the tourist business."
"But it's probably tougher than it looks
I better think this through a little more......"

2>
(Sailor)
"Yeah.
It's too much for an amateur!"

---Aeris likes the jealous Cloud---

Explanation: This is one of those cases where Affection Points have an effect on the game. Just like it affects whom Cloud dates on disc 1 or how it affects the dialogue between Cloud and Tifa at the end of disc 2.
This scenario requires you to have more than 120 Affection Points for Aeris when you enter Gongaga, however this is IMPOSSIBLE to get without using cheats.
When you visit Zack's parents and Aeris walks out you can talk to Aeris and get two dialogue options.
Choosing "(...jealous...envious...)" with more than 120 AP (255 is the maximum) leads to this:
Aeris
"Are you...jealous?
Hmm? Hmmm?
Are you, Cloud?"
*Cloud turns away*
Aeris
"I'm kidding. I'm sorry."
*Aeris nods*
Aeris
"I was hoping maybe you were..."

The underlined part is the addition, I just wanted to show it in relation to the normal answer.

---Cid in Nibelheim---

Explanation: When the party first enters Nibelheim they question Cloud's story about the village having been burnt down. At this point neither Vincent nor Cid can be in your party naturally; the game has assigned dialogue to Cid, but interestingly none to Vincent.

Scenario 1: Without Tifa in party, Cid speaks first.
Cid
"Didn't you say that your hometown
burned down?"

Scenario 2: Without Tifa in party, Cid does not speak first.
Cid
"Yo, Cloud.
It's not nice to lie."

Scenario 3: With Tifa in party.
Cid
"Hey, that's different from
the one I heard!"

---Aeris is sick of this---

Explanation: Reviving Aeris through cheats (the ONLY way to do so) will give her dialogue in the Great Glacier. See video and article.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzxR0mzacfE&feature=PlayList&p=05177041D0BEB9EA&index=90
http://www.ff7citadel.com/secrets/sa_seen1.shtml

---Tifa in North Corel Huge Materia mission---

Explanation: Tifa has two dialogue boxes for this mission; which she does not belong to according to the story. The underlined text is the hidden part.

Scenario 1: Not catching up to the train.

*Cid walks into North Corel*
Cid
"Sorry...
I never shoulda gave that Huge Materia
to the Shinra so easily..."

Tifa
"I wonder what Shinra wants to do
with all that Huge Materia?"

Scenario 2: Train crashes into North Corel.

*The party observes the devastation*
Cid
"^$#@%$ !
We couldn't stop the train..."

Tifa
"We have to do something about Shinra!
I sick of hearin'
about sad things like this!"

Things get MUCH worse/better with the Fort Condor mission...

---Cloud, Tifa and Aeris in the Fort Condor Huge Materia mission---

Explanation: Contrary to the story, the aforementioned characters have lines during this mission. See livejournal link for this part of the script. (I highly recommend reading the last scenario.)

Link: http://dennisffvii.livejournal.com/1251.html

---What is a clone?---

Explanation: It explains the true meaning of being a 'Sephiroth clone'. Too bad it is never naturally triggered.
BrutalAl triggered it by using a code that automatically sends you to any field in the game; this field of the Highwind deck is obviously different from the normal one you visit.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzx10A2eynA&feature=PlayList&p=05177041D0BEB9EA&index=5

---How do we save the planet?---

Explanation: When Cid has held his convincing monologue that indeed they can save the planet, but stating he does not know how, usually the next scene is triggered by Nanaki without you doing anything.
Avoiding this scene allows you to see hidden character lines. This suggests that at an earlier stage in development the next scene was to be voluntarily triggered. Yuffie does not have any lines and Vincent was not given a new one.
-
Barret
"Damn, it kinda makes me sad..."
-
Tifa
"Cloud......what should I do...
I've got to think."
-
Red XIII
"Yes.
We have to think about what to do."
-
Cait Sith
"...that ain't ta say I don't reckon what
the President's thinkin'."
"But, I can't shake th' feelin' he's
rushin' things a bit......"
-
Cid
"I TOLD you I was thinkin' about it!"

b) Location names in menu

Explanation: When you enter the menu on any field you usually see a given name for that location. However sometimes the game doesn't allow you to enter the menu; here I list those elusive 'location names'.
In some areas of the game the location bar is blank; I do not list these.

List:
* Aeris"How cute!!" *
Location: Screen with the two baby birds on the way to/from North Corel.

* Inside the Ferris Wheel *
Location: Inside of the Gondola ride in Gold Saucer.

* Waiting Room *
Location: Where the Chocobo Jockeys wait for the next race (location of Ramuh).

* Cet Wall *
Location: Where the paralyzed remains of Nanaki's father resides. "Cet" could be a messed up attempt at romanizing "Seto", which would make this "Seto's wall" basically.

* Inn *
Location: During the scene with Zack's parents. After the scene it changes to * Zack's Home *.

* akao! , # Ƌ28Bdw! C *
Location: Screen where Tifa and Cloud are shown to be submerged in the lifestream.

* "A promise under a star *
Location: On and off when Tifa helps explore Cloud's consciousness in the lifestream.

---

2) Debug Room and searching game files

---Unused text---
In the following site, http://berriblue.blogspot.com/2009/01/final-fantasy-vii-7.html , you can find translations of text that was left in the game's files but never used. Parts of it can be triggered in debug rooms, and there are some other interesting videos in there as well.
The highly recommended read is the part with scrapped Honey Bee Inn/Manor dialogue.

Standing ovations to the translator; GlitterBerri.

---The scrapped sidequest---

Many have heard of the Key Items "Letter to a Wife" and "Letter to a Daughter". Involved in this was supposed to be a traveling salesman in Gongaga, parts of whose dialogue exists in the game's files although no such event can be triggered in the game itself. (scroll down to see his script in the linked article)

Link: http://www.ff7citadel.com/secrets/sp_keyitems.shtml


3) Miscellaneous

---Fort Condor Japanese script---

A strange glitch can occur when you are given the option to initiate or postpone a Fort Condor battle. Sometimes instead of English text, the game shows a short snippet of katakana characters. The symbol apparently means "dami" and is really nothing but nonsense.
I am yet to see this glitch on any other version than the PAL one.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toa4UP389Uk&feature=channel_page

---Yuffie giving MP Absorb materia...or not---

This line isn't so much impossible as it is VERY difficult to get. If your materia list is full when Yuffie is about to give you the MP Absorb materia, she changes her mind and the materia from then exists on her bed to get later on. The only way to get this naturally is to grind any materia that Yuffie didn't steal from you, until your materia list is maxed out.
Link: http://dennisffvii.livejournal.com/1486.html

Interesting to note is that if you can't take on new materia, neither in your equipment or inventory, then the stolen materia Yuffie gives back to you will simply be discarded and lost forever.

4) Resources
Programs 7mimic and Meteor. (May provide links to these later on)

Cheat codes provided by BrutalAl. Many discoveries would not have been made without these cheats.

FF7Citadel.
http://www.ff7citadel.com/

Terence Ferguson's Date Mechanics guide.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/197341/2385

 

[S and G]

That's pretty interesting. Thanks for the post

 

[Landarma]

The highly recommended read is the part with scrapped Honey Bee Inn/Manor dialogue.

I laughed when I was reading that. I never knew Cloud was such kind of person...

**Although I can open FF7 International data with 7Mimic, I don't know how to make dumped scripts readable.

 

[Shademp]

In fact I used 7Mimic for the first time yesterday; it was great fun to find the animations that were never used in the game.

Darn it! My picture gallery server is down... Hopefully this resolves itself and I won't have to re-upload everything. >_< Edit: Phew, they are up again.

 

[Selphie Tilmitt]

Wow. Thanks again Shade. Muchly

I didn't know the dialogue for the date could change. What happens?

Well I knew it could depending on which party member you end up with obviously but does a higher affection value change the specifics of an individual date too? Or was that not what you were saying

 

[Shademp]

Wow. Thanks again Shade. Muchly

I didn't know the dialogue for the date could change. What happens?

You're welcome, I really like that everyone is showing their appreciation.


Sorry, bad phrasing on my part. What is changed is whom Cloud dates, not the date dialogue in one and the same date. As far as I know there aren't alternate versions of each character date, aside from the choices you make in the date itself.

Edit: Yes, that's what I am trying to say. The individual dates are not changed by affection points, as far as I know. I'll try to rephrase the post yet again.

 

[Shademp]

Minor update:
Added some hidden character lines, taking place after Shinra's failed attempt to destroy Meteor, and the new section 'Location names in menu'.

 

[Smaddy]

---Unused text---
In the following site, http://berriblue.blogspot.com/2009/0...asy-vii-7.html , you can find translations of text that was apparently hidden in the game but never used. Parts of it can be triggered in debug rooms, and there are some other interesting videos in there as well.
I am uncertain as to whether all of this text exists in the files of the International version, maybe someone could help clarify this for me. I heard that all this unused text was also published in an Ultimania Omega years ago.
The highly recommended read is the part with scrapped Honey Bee Inn/Manor dialogue.

The Honey Bee stuff was pretty interesting and funny.

The incomplete book text in the Shinra Mansion's basement fascinated me. I can only imagine what was planned to be inside those...

 

[GlitterBerri]

Cet's Wall sounds like someone messed up in romanizing Seto, but I'm not sure what the wall part could be.

I retranslated the unused text and updated the pages a few days ago, so it should be more accurate and easier on the eyes now. Still a work in progess with a few parts to iron out. Glad you guys are interested!

 

[Strangelove]

* Cet Wall *
Location: Where the paralyzed remains of Nanaki's father resides. ...What's a Cet Wall?

Cet = Set = Seto?

 

[Shademp]

I made a note of Cet being a "failed" romanization of Seto. Thanks.

I also gave you more proper credit there GlitterBerri. You have our deepest gratitude.

Edit: 7mimic just helped me find a major part of the hidden script, I will post it sometime later.
Does anybody know if there is a way to permanently lose at Fort Condor, other than that last battle? I don't think so, which means I have a great deal to post soon.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Wow...that's a lot of unused text and stuff. Very interesting, thanks so much for sharing this!

I wonder now if this much unused text and stuff exists in other FF's...?

 

[Vendel]

* "A promise under a star *
Location: On and off when Tifa helps explore Cloud's consciousness in the lifestream.

Well......isn't that romantic sweet interesting.

 

[Makoeyes987]

It should be "A Promise Forced Under a Star"

 

[S and G]

While on topic, does anyone remember the interview that was published on ACF a while back where one of the creators was talking about that scene and how it changed? In the finished game, Tifa falls asleep on Cloud's shoulder on the rocks and they wake at dawn in the same position. In the original draft, the scene the morning after was supposed to show the hull of the Highwind outside the chocobo stable where Cloud walks out and heads for the bridge, followed a minute later by Tifa who emerges from the stable, looks around and brushes herself down. It was supposed to be a comic insinuation that the two had slept together. This scene was later removed.

I can't remember which article this was from, or which creator said it, but I can remember thinking WTF at the time.

 

[Smaddy]

I wonder now if this much unused text and stuff exists in other FF's...?

I wonder that too. I think most games do have some sort of 'deleted' and 'unused' materials. I can name several RPGs that have entire sidequests locked out for one reason or another.

The older FFs (4-6) translated by Woolsley have a lot of stuff missing and changed. Anyone who's a fan has probably seen the controversy and how some people really hate him for 'botching' the translation.

It's not FF, but I just recently found out that Secret of Mana, because it was rushed to be translated and because of technical issues, that much of the script was left out for the English translation. So I often wonder what was lost in that.

 

[Shademp]

@S and G

I have not found such a scene hidden in the game (even when experimenting with that portion of the game), and from what I remember it was an early draft of the game that wasn't even completed, I could be wrong though.

If such a scene exists, it would probably be found in the same manner as the 'Sephiroth clone' scene, or it could be hidden in one of the game's files. Considering there probably wasn't any dialogue in the preposed scene, the latter scenario is unlikely.

 

[S and G]

@S and G

I have not found such a scene hidden in the game (even when experimenting with that portion of the game), and from what I remember it was an early draft of the game that wasn't even completed, I could be wrong though.

If such a scene exists, it would probably be found in the same manner as the 'Sephiroth clone' scene, or it could be hidden in one of the game's files. Considering there probably wasn't any dialogue in the preposed scene, the latter scenario is unlikely.

As far as I remember, it was never really put in the game, but something that was simply drawn up on the storyboards of the writers. It's highly unlikely you'll find any reference to it in the game code.

 

[Shademp]

Update:

Posted a link to the Fort Condor hidden scenarios (good stuff; posted it in a livejournal entry to save space in my first post), Tifa's lines in the North Corel mission, Cid's comments in Nibelheim, and Yuffie's reaction at the impaled Midgar Zolom. Also, another new so-called 'location name' was added.

I really found a great deal of new stuff now that I started using the USO cheat (having any set of party members, whenever and wherever).

 

[GlitterBerri]

Thank you for the kind words, Shademp.

I've been wondering - I've seen bit and pieces of unused FFVII content around the internet, but is it all compiled in one place? I know The FFVII Citadel has a section on unused stuff, but presumably not your newer discoveries or the videos of the unused text in the game. I know they linked to my translated text once, but I'm not sure that they actually put it on their webpage for posterity. It would be great to collect the information in one location.

To that end, would you mind if I put these discoveries on my webpage (with proper credit to everyone) as part of the FFVII unused/debug text series for awhile, at least until we found a major FFVII site to host it? It seems more permanent than forums and YouTube accounts.

 

[Shademp]

Thank you for the kind words, Shademp.

I've been wondering - I've seen bit and pieces of unused FFVII content around the internet, but is it all compiled in one place? I know The FFVII Citadel has a section on unused stuff, but presumably not your newer discoveries or the videos of the unused text in the game. I know they linked to my translated text once, but I'm not sure that they actually put it on their webpage for posterity. It would be great to collect the information in one location.

To that end, would you mind if I put these discoveries on my webpage (with proper credit to everyone) as part of the FFVII unused/debug text series for awhile, at least until we found a major FFVII site to host it? It seems more permanent than forums and YouTube accounts.

Sounds like a good idea; I was thinking of making a notepad document and posting it somewhere, but because I have nowhere to do so your site could work. You have my permission.

I think you should make a note on your site that most of this is not so much "unusued" text as "restricted/hidden" due to limitations of movements or the available party members. Though things like the 7th Heaven scene or the Sephiroth Clone scene most certainly belongs to the "unused text" section. Then some parts are more of a grey area, like the Fort Condor scenarios...
Anyway, I'm rambling. Organize it however you like.

 

[Tifaeria]

Very interesting how a lot of that got missed. I wonder if they ever remake the game, they'll add those parts back?

Thank you for sharing this!

 

[GlitterBerri]

Thank you, Shademp! I'll work on editing those pages when I return to Canada at the beginning of August. Your suggestion rings true, I'll add more of an explanation. ^^ Don't worry, of course you can give me advice, they're your discoveries and you're kindly letting me post them.

 

[Shademp]

Starting today I won't be able to add more updates in a good while.

My attention has shifted to the field files of the game, rather than using cheats, and while Glittberri's + Robert Seddon's articles are highly extensive, they don't include every last bit of unused text that can be read in the field files.

I wish to make such a complete list; by reading through all the files I can pick these things out. This won't be too difficult considering how familiar I am with the game's script, and for sake of perfection I want to have both the PSX and PC text available.

Like I said I don't know when this will happen. I partly know how I wish to organize it all; any 'script through cheats' section will be reduced to giving advice on how to unlock the text that CAN be triggered. The actual listed unused text will be indifferent to whether it can be triggered or not.

So that's the present situation. There is LOTS of stuff left to add.

 

[GlitterBerri]

Good to hear, we'll be looking forward to it. I uploaded the text and videos (though the larger pictures will have to wait, they're too big to fit in the panel and I can't fix them right now) and they can be accessed here. Let me know if there are any mistakes or other corrections you'd like to make!