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IGN: IS FF7 OVERRATED?
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FFVII is, and will likely always be, my favorite game ever. The reasoning is simple: 'twas the first RPG I ever played, and it's what got me into them to begin with.
Is it the BEST game ever? Hell no. But it's still my favorite.
Overrated? That's totally subjective and impossible to answer definitively, since it's based entirely on the opinion of the viewer.
Side note: Valkyrie Profile developed a semi-cult following because people saw how rare it became. Which, to me, is stupid. It wasn't based on the substantial merits of the game. I bought it when it was still new and a "nobody's heard of this" game at Best Buy for $39.99 and never regretted it for a moment. And it was all on a "I have an issue of Tips and Tricks with a walkthrough for it, and it sounds really interesting, so why the hell not" whim.
Perception determines reality.
PS: Valkyrie Profile is fan-fucking-tastic.
PPS: V - so Suikoden II *is* good, then? I'm going to be annoyed if more than 2 or 3 of the numbered Suikos suck, as I have the first five and have only played I (amazing) and III (meh).
PPPS: Fuck IGN.
Is it the BEST game ever? Hell no. But it's still my favorite.
Overrated? That's totally subjective and impossible to answer definitively, since it's based entirely on the opinion of the viewer.
Side note: Valkyrie Profile developed a semi-cult following because people saw how rare it became. Which, to me, is stupid. It wasn't based on the substantial merits of the game. I bought it when it was still new and a "nobody's heard of this" game at Best Buy for $39.99 and never regretted it for a moment. And it was all on a "I have an issue of Tips and Tricks with a walkthrough for it, and it sounds really interesting, so why the hell not" whim.
Perception determines reality.
PS: Valkyrie Profile is fan-fucking-tastic.
PPS: V - so Suikoden II *is* good, then? I'm going to be annoyed if more than 2 or 3 of the numbered Suikos suck, as I have the first five and have only played I (amazing) and III (meh).
PPPS: Fuck IGN.
Buster Sword
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It's all opinion so it's neither.
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[quote author=Dacon link=topic=631.msg31227#msg31227 date=1237272368]
http://retro.ign.com/articles/963/963068p1.html
lolololololololol
[/quote]eh, to be honest, I don't think that was as bad as the original article.
http://retro.ign.com/articles/963/963068p1.html
lolololololololol
[/quote]eh, to be honest, I don't think that was as bad as the original article.
Makoeyes987
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I guess IGN is bored these days.
Pixel
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In podcast form. Quite interesting
http://retro.ign.com/articles/963/963530p1.html
http://retro.ign.com/articles/963/963530p1.html
Makoeyes987
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You know, IGN sure is milking that topic as much as they claim Square's milking the FFVII tit. Kinda ironic.
Shademp
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I can't be bothered to read this. "Been there, done that" with all the 'FF7 is overrated' talk. The game, and the compilation, has its good and bad parts just like any other franchise. I don't think that many people anymore say 'wow, FF7 is the best game eva'. Only the noobs of noobs say that.
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Nah..i don't think so. People call it incredible and sold incredible well, of course it has to be a good game. Why do so many people love it, if it is really a piece of junk XD
megas_sephiroth
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^My thoughts exactly.
How is it that something so "bad" sold so many copies and has a huge amount of fans even after more than 10 years?
Not to mention that the release of ACC actually increased the sales of the PS3.
How is it that something so "bad" sold so many copies and has a huge amount of fans even after more than 10 years?
Not to mention that the release of ACC actually increased the sales of the PS3.
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Twilight.
Well, it hasn't been ten years yet, but it moar than fulfils the first part of the criteria.
(relax, I'm not comparing FFVII to Twilight)
megas_sephiroth
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I kinda like Twilight. (Please don't throw stones 
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Edit: I re-read the previous post and realized I misunderstood it. I don't think Twilight is gonna last ten years...
)Edit: I re-read the previous post and realized I misunderstood it. I don't think Twilight is gonna last ten years...
DrakeClawfang
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Well that was a waste of time. Two pages of listening to fanboys bitch about how much the game rocks or how much it sucks. What was the point of that, it's not like the article draws any conclusions.
Is FF7 overrated? It is in that it gets more praise and attention than it deserves. But that's not to say it isn't a great game, it is, it's one of my favorites. But FF7 is given undue attention. It's just one game in a vast, vast series, and many of those other games aren't half-bad either. FF7 has two prequels, a sequel, and one and a half movies centering on its universe. FF4 has the DS remake (a new game in and of itself) and the horribly written sequel. FF6 and FF9 have nothing at all.
Now, FF7's appeal wasn't all about flashy graphics, anime-style character and a broken combat system, and for proof of that look no further than the game right after it. FF8's plot was also horribly convoluted, with a broken combat system and good graphics, and it blew chunks. But yeah, at the time FF7 was hailed as groundbreaking for its graphics and it did set the bar higher for games to come. But then, in its own way every FF game has raised the bar. FF3 and FF5 expanded and refined the Job System, FF2 and FF4 gave us an involved plot with deep characters, FF6 combined character customization with character plotlines, etc.
I do love FF7, but I never hailed it as the Holy Grail of gaming. I ultimately find there's little it did that previous FF games didn't do before it - VII just did it in a new way that got a lot of attention. But it gets too much attention. In a series of 12 games, where yes, many of them have enhanced 3D remakes or a sequel of some kind, for one game to get a movie, two prequels and a sequel, it's a bit undue. One of the best RPGs ever? I dunno about that, maybe. One of the best video games ever? I doubt it, there's been some rockers.
Is FF7 overrated? Yes. It is a great game, absolutely, but it's still getting more attention than it deserves, especially when other games in the series get so little.
Is FF7 overrated? It is in that it gets more praise and attention than it deserves. But that's not to say it isn't a great game, it is, it's one of my favorites. But FF7 is given undue attention. It's just one game in a vast, vast series, and many of those other games aren't half-bad either. FF7 has two prequels, a sequel, and one and a half movies centering on its universe. FF4 has the DS remake (a new game in and of itself) and the horribly written sequel. FF6 and FF9 have nothing at all.
Now, FF7's appeal wasn't all about flashy graphics, anime-style character and a broken combat system, and for proof of that look no further than the game right after it. FF8's plot was also horribly convoluted, with a broken combat system and good graphics, and it blew chunks. But yeah, at the time FF7 was hailed as groundbreaking for its graphics and it did set the bar higher for games to come. But then, in its own way every FF game has raised the bar. FF3 and FF5 expanded and refined the Job System, FF2 and FF4 gave us an involved plot with deep characters, FF6 combined character customization with character plotlines, etc.
I do love FF7, but I never hailed it as the Holy Grail of gaming. I ultimately find there's little it did that previous FF games didn't do before it - VII just did it in a new way that got a lot of attention. But it gets too much attention. In a series of 12 games, where yes, many of them have enhanced 3D remakes or a sequel of some kind, for one game to get a movie, two prequels and a sequel, it's a bit undue. One of the best RPGs ever? I dunno about that, maybe. One of the best video games ever? I doubt it, there's been some rockers.
Is FF7 overrated? Yes. It is a great game, absolutely, but it's still getting more attention than it deserves, especially when other games in the series get so little.
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Makoeyes987
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Twilight is a fad, and fads burn strong and die fast. The appeal will certainly not last long. People who read it and see will eventually see other things that are better than it and move on to the next best thing.
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Everyone and their mother bought pogs back in the day, and we all know how that went.
Raquelborn
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Considering FFVII is the only game I've played once before and know I definitely want to play again I can't say it's that overrated.
Playing it 10 years after it came out and therefore having the entire plot completely spoiled for me (eg. Aerith's death would of had way more impact had I of had no idea about it) lead to it being less absorbing than it could of been. Nonetheless I loved it, and I think it's even overtaken X as my favorite.
But I think that's why people call it overrated now, people have heard so much about it that it doesn't make as much of an impact on re-plays and on new players. I bet if you were to get someone who had never heard anything about the game before and got them to play it they wouldn't think it was overrated at all.
Afterall Final Fantasy RPGs are the best, and VII and X are known as the best FFs within the series. Ergo, of course they're amazing!
Playing it 10 years after it came out and therefore having the entire plot completely spoiled for me (eg. Aerith's death would of had way more impact had I of had no idea about it) lead to it being less absorbing than it could of been. Nonetheless I loved it, and I think it's even overtaken X as my favorite.
But I think that's why people call it overrated now, people have heard so much about it that it doesn't make as much of an impact on re-plays and on new players. I bet if you were to get someone who had never heard anything about the game before and got them to play it they wouldn't think it was overrated at all.
Afterall Final Fantasy RPGs are the best, and VII and X are known as the best FFs within the series. Ergo, of course they're amazing!