Kingdom Hearts III

[Tashasaurous]

Testuin just wouldn't let me go without forcing myself to accept Polygon's interview. Besides, Nomura says a lot of things that are practically random and then people wonder why he said things that aren't that all true anyway. So it's going to stop here and we're going to be talking about both Xehanort's Keyblade and Braig.

Because you are rambling incoherently about it. You don't seem to realize what "exclusive" means. No one is "forcing" you to do anything, but when you keep refusing to utilize an iota of common sense, don't be surprised that people aren't taking you seriously.

And "Tetsujin just wouldn't let me go." Please. You're not being held hostage. You actively engaged in a "debate" without having a clue what you were talking about, and, from every indication so far, as pointed out numerous times in the last few pages, this topic seems to render you unstable for some reason. Quit playing the victim. It's not worth it.

Everyone's making it sound like they want me to just give up and believe this 'exclusive' interview that doesn't for the last time say anything about the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII at all when I checked. It would've been placed all over the internet since two years ago by now, like Wikipedia for example. But they haven't.

And I'm not unstable. If I was unstable, I wouldn't be able to say "let's stop now and move onto talking about something else" and just walk away, now would I?

So let's stop right here and just talk about Braig and Xehanort's Keyblade, please. That's all I'm asking. I don't want to talk about this anymore.

 

[JechtShotMK9]

I mean, I would like to be able to enjoy this and a few other threads without one member constantly coming in and derailing everything with her uninformed tantrums, so forgive me for not being so considerate. This is not an isolated incident. Come on, enough is enough.

 

[Dashell]

Which reminds me. I think Port Royal will have an important role for KH3 because in KH2, even if brief, Sora and Jack Sparrow had held the former's Keyblade together by a few seconds and Jack was able to hold it for a bit longer than anyone else in the series. If Port Royal does return, then Captain Jack Sparrow will be the new Keyblade wielder and the third Disney Character being able to use the Keyblade.

Honestly that would be messed up af

As for Isa being reformed, that's a given. I figure at some point Lea's life will be in danger and Isa will snap out of it to save him.


Also one more thing about Braig, when Sora says to him in DDD "My friends are my power!" Braig seems... almost saddened by this He just pouts and says, "Fine, see where your power gets you here." and I always wondered why he sounded so sad. Does he... just want friends or is he really that upset that his plans to mess with Sora' s head didn't work?

 

[Tashasaurous]

Which reminds me. I think Port Royal will have an important role for KH3 because in KH2, even if brief, Sora and Jack Sparrow had held the former's Keyblade together by a few seconds and Jack was able to hold it for a bit longer than anyone else in the series. If Port Royal does return, then Captain Jack Sparrow will be the new Keyblade wielder and the third Disney Character being able to use the Keyblade.

Honestly that would be messed up.

When you see the ending of 0.2 in two weeks, you'll be very surprised on how Kingdom Hearts 3's beginning is gonna turn out, as well as Olympus Coliseum.

As for Isa being reformed, that's a given. I figure at some point Lea's life will be in danger and Isa will snap out of it to save him.

Something like that along with Lea trying to snap Isa out of it himself when the two will be forced to fight each other.

Also one more thing about Braig, when Sora says to him in DDD "My friends are my power!" Braig seems... almost saddened by this He just pouts and says, "Fine, see where your power gets you here." and I always wondered why he sounded so sad. Does he... just want friends or is he really that upset that his plans to mess with Sora' s head didn't work?

I'm gonna go with the latter since I didn't like him that much.

 

[Tetsujin]

Everyone's making it sound like they want me to just give up and believe this 'exclusive' interview that doesn't for the last time say anything about the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII at all when I checked.

???????

 

[Dashell]

When you see the ending of 0.2 in two weeks, you'll be very surprised on how Kingdom Hearts 3's beginning is gonna turn out, as well as Olympus Coliseum.

Whoa hey... hey hey... don't spoil it... that's getting very close to spoilerage.

Something like that along with Lea trying to snap Isa out of it himself when the two will be forced to fight each other.

OH yeah that could be it too. Maybe right before Isa lands the final blow he realizes he can't do it or something. I always thought the last part of the game would have several different bosses that you play as different keyblade wielders. So Lea would fight Isa, if Ventus is there he would fight Vanitas, and maybe Aqua would fight Terranort if he's there?.... and ofc Sora fights Xehanort

 

[Tashasaurous]

Everyone's making it sound like they want me to just give up and believe this 'exclusive' interview that doesn't for the last time say anything about the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII at all when I checked.

???????

Okay, so they said something like that, but well...can we just drop it and accept that I'm still going to not believe any of this, please?

When you see the ending of 0.2 in two weeks, you'll be very surprised on how Kingdom Hearts 3's beginning is gonna turn out, as well as Olympus Coliseum.

Whoa hey... hey hey... don't spoil it... that's getting very close to spoilerage.

Sorry. My bad.

Something like that along with Lea trying to snap Isa out of it himself when the two will be forced to fight each other.

OH yeah that could be it too. Maybe right before Isa lands the final blow he realizes he can't do it or something. I always thought the last part of the game would have several different bosses that you play as different keyblade wielders. So Lea would fight Isa, if Ventus is there he would fight Vanitas, and maybe Aqua would fight Terranort if he's there?.... and ofc Sora fights Xehanort

Well, guess we'll wait and see, shall we?

I don't think Vanitas will return save for a ghostly form or memories, maybe. But who knows? It'll be a huge surprise if they decide to ressurrect Ven's darkness.

 

[Dashell]

my other theories are thus:


Sora becomes a heartless... like maybe he gives his body to Xehanort to save his friends (idk how that situation will come about but...) and then its Sora's heartless that wins the final battle vs his body (this is how darkness will prevail)



OR


on the topic of everyone fighting someone, maybe they all just take turns fighting Xehanort. or something idk

 

[Tashasaurous]

I think the latter will be most likely.

Because Terra has a score to settle with him and...I hate to say this, but maybe Terra ends up sacrificing himself and dies in the end.

As he said in his ending of BBS, "Aqua...Ven...One day....I will put an end to this."

 

[Dashell]

I don't in all honesty think anyone is going to die... if they didn't kill off Organization XIII, I doubt Terra will die... although if Darkness must prevail... maybe it is Terra who will land the final blow and he'll use darkness to do it.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Well, some of them would have to die and disappear, right? Some of Organization XIII at least since Isa's too good to die(I prefer him in BBS than his Saix incarnation) I mean, KH3 is Xehanort's last appearence since it's clear that he won't be appearing in the next saga and I doubt he'll just redeem himself.

 

[Dashell]

Okay let me rephrase, anyone BESIDES Xehanort will die

Isa's too good to die

I thought the same about Demyx But at least he's back to normal as... idk Emyd or something.


Honestly beyond KH III, I hope we get another game with Terra, Ventus and Aqua. In fact I wouldn't mind it if at the end of KH III, Sora gets a message from Mickey or something happens and he realizes he's needed again, but as he's about to go, VEntus, Terra and Aqua are shown heading off first. Then Sora sits back down and goes, "I'll sit this one out."

or something. I'd be really happy about that

 

[JechtShotMK9]

So now that Aqua's 10 or so years older, can we get her pre-censorship design back?

Baby got Back.

 

[Dashell]

oh wow I didn't know about that... maybe she'll wear her outfit backwards

 

[Tashasaurous]

Okay let me rephrase, anyone BESIDES Xehanort will die.

Isa's too good to die

I thought the same about Demyx But at least he's back to normal as... idk Emyd or something.

Most people are calling Demyx's somebody Myde.

Honestly beyond KH III, I hope we get another game with Terra, Ventus and Aqua. In fact I wouldn't mind it if at the end of KH III, Sora gets a message from Mickey or something happens and he realizes he's needed again, but as he's about to go, VEntus, Terra and Aqua are shown heading off first. Then Sora sits back down and goes, "I'll sit this one out." or something. I'd be really happy about that

I'm hoping that the next KH saga will have Sora, Riku, Kairi, Lea, Roxas, Xion, Isa, Namine, King Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Terra, Ven and Aqua return along with my favorite Final Fantasy characters since they're bond to return for KH3 too. Especially Leon, Yuffie, Aerith, Cid, and I'm hoping Cloud and Tifa too.

As for the ending as you said, sorry but that'll be too much like the epilogue of KH2. I'm thinking more like a celebration party or...*grins a little* Sora and Kairi kissing.

 

[Dashell]

Most people are calling Demyx's somebody Myde.

I like Emyd, it's the name of a freshwater turtle. So you get two of Demyx's traits there, water and laziness.

I'm hoping that the next KH saga will have Sora, Riku, Kairi, Lea,

okay good good

Roxas, Xion

No

Isa, Namine, King Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Terra, Ven and Aqua return along with my favorite Final Fantasy characters since they're bond to return for KH3 too. Especially Leon, Yuffie, Aerith, Cid, and I'm hoping Cloud and Tifa too.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Lea got his own spin off game

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

It's not a matter of opinion, you can't change facts just because they don't suit you.

This is where it starts to become frustrating because everyone is forcing me like I'm not an actual person but a robot or a computer. Why can't I be skeptical about Polygon?

Can we just PLEASE for the final time not mention about Polygon anymore? Until I find other people on other websites talking about this being true, I'm not going to believe it. End of story.

Why would other sites be reporting on an uncontroversial feature put together for a 20-year-old game conducted by another website? You're asking for something that never fucking happens. We're not talking about a hot news scoop related to an upcoming game, or a press conference held at a gaming expo.

You clearly have no idea what the article even is or of the difference between a news piece and a feature.

This is a news piece:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/final-fantasy-7-remake-kingdom-hearts-3-long-way-ot/

This is a feature:
http://kotaku.com/5952339/the-artist-behind-final-fantasy-just-wants-to-draw-cute-girls

You will not see the latter reproduced on every game site because it is a feature. It is an exclusive production. If you do see it mentioned anywhere else, they're going to be crediting it to the original site that put it together and just repeating what was said there.

Now you can drop the topic if you don't want to live in reality. Me? I'm happy to go back and forth with you on this until the Internet's last server burns out, because as much as you choose to harp on the same things over and over, I think I can have this one thing myself.

Yes, you are my Nomura as of this moment, if you so choose to be. You've got your thing that you harp on already. Now you want another one: for it to be considered acceptable for you to just dismiss the work of others without a shred of evidence or any credibility behind you to do so.

TheLifestream.net also being a game site where people put their own time and hard work into features once in a while -- why might some of us here not be okay with that kind of garbage behavior?

No one can force you to cut the crap (so stop saying you're being forced to do anything), but even so, I'm not going to just "drop it." If you want to accuse people of just making shit up, you can provide evidence for your claims.

To be completely honest, your behavior has now gone beyond occasionally disruptive to obstinately, unapologetically offensive. Justify this or look forward to me being a naggy sonofabitch who questions the validity of literally any link you ever post here again, and disrupts any discussions you ever try to have about those links. Forever and ever.

 

[Tashasaurous]

It's not a matter of opinion, you can't change facts just because they don't suit you.

This is where it starts to become frustrating because everyone is forcing me like I'm not an actual person but a robot or a computer. Why can't I be skeptical about Polygon?

Can we just PLEASE for the final time not mention about Polygon anymore? Until I find other people on other websites talking about this being true, I'm not going to believe it. End of story.

Why would other sites be reporting on an uncontroversial feature put together for a 20-year-old game conducted by another website? You're asking for something that never fucking happens. We're not talking about a hot news scoop related to an upcoming game, or a press conference held at a gaming expo.

You clearly have no idea what the article even is or of the difference between a news piece and a feature.

This is a news piece:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/final-fantasy-7-remake-kingdom-hearts-3-long-way-ot/

This is a feature:
http://kotaku.com/5952339/the-artist-behind-final-fantasy-just-wants-to-draw-cute-girls

You will not see the latter reproduced on every game site because it is a feature. It is an exclusive production. If you do see it mentioned anywhere else, they're going to be crediting it to the original site that put it together and just repeating what was said there.

Now you can drop the topic if you don't want to live in reality. Me? I'm happy to go back and forth with you on this until the Internet's last server burns out, because as much as you choose to harp on the same things over and over, I think I can have this one thing myself.

Yes, you are my Nomura as of this moment, if you so choose to be. You've got your thing that you harp on already. Now you want another one: for it to be considered acceptable for you to just dismiss the work of others without a shred of evidence or any credibility behind you to do so.

TheLifestream.net also being a game site where people put their own time and hard work into features once in a while -- why might some of us here not be okay with that kind of garbage behavior?

No one can force you to cut the crap (so stop saying you're being forced to do anything), but even so, I'm not going to just "drop it." If you want to accuse people of just making shit up, you can provide evidence for your claims.

To be completely honest, your behavior has now gone beyond occasionally disruptive to obstinately, unapologetically offensive. Justify this or look forward to me being a naggy sonofabitch who questions the validity of literally any link you ever post here again, and disrupts any discussions you ever try to have about those links. Forever and ever.

.....At least I wasn't using swear words most of the time. So you're saying that I have no choice but to accept this? You think this is NOT forcing me to do something, then you're sadly mistaken if you're telling me to accept this when I don't want to. If you don't want to hear me, then just ignore my posts whenever I post something instead of just nagging at me.

Simple as that and please now leave this be.

Most people are calling Demyx's somebody Myde.

I like Emyd, it's the name of a freshwater turtle. So you get two of Demyx's traits there, water and laziness.

I guess that's true, but I like Myde myself.

I'm hoping that the next KH saga will have Sora, Riku, Kairi, Lea,

okay good good

Roxas, Xion

No

I like Xion.

Isa, Namine, King Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Terra, Ven and Aqua return along with my favorite Final Fantasy characters since they're bond to return for KH3 too. Especially Leon, Yuffie, Aerith, Cid, and I'm hoping Cloud and Tifa too.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Lea got his own spin off game

He really should get his own spin-off game since we had more Aqua spin-offs than anything else. Riku too.

 

[Dashell]

Honestly I want Roxas to stay inside of Sora and not become his own character or anything. Same with Xion. They went into detail about why she and Sora can't co-exist... let's keep it that way.

If they want to pop out once in a while and say "Hey guys!" that's fine... but no to them becoming actual characters. I mean Roxas is a part of Sora, how would that even work out?

 

[Tashasaurous]

Fine, I accept the fact that Polygon is a realistic site. Can I at least still have a little bit of hope since nothing in the Compilation part really states that they're not going to continue the FFVII franchise's sequels and just leave this as it is and talk about what Dashell and I are talking about in regards to Kingdom Hearts 3 please?

I'm really sorry for all of this.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Honestly I want Roxas to stay inside of Sora and not become his own character or anything. Same with Xion. They went into detail about why she and Sora can't co-exist... let's keep it that way.

If they want to pop out once in a while and say "Hey guys!" that's fine... but no to them becoming actual characters. I mean Roxas is a part of Sora, how would that even work out?

So you'd rather have Lea stuck on his own? I do remember him having Axel's memories and say, "Promises to Keep. I'll always be there to get my friends back."

Besides, I'd like Roxas, Xion and Namine to be their own people with hearts of their own.

 

[Dashell]

So you'd rather have Lea stuck on his own?

He has Isa, and maybe Ienzo can join in for wacky fun

Besides, I'd like Roxas, Xion and Namine to be their own people with hearts of their own.

They have to provide a reason on why they can exist on their own then... cause so far what they've told us is that they cannot co exist with Sora

 

[Tashasaurous]

So you'd rather have Lea stuck on his own?

He has Isa, and maybe Ienzo can join in for wacky fun

Besides, I'd like Roxas, Xion and Namine to be their own people with hearts of their own.

They have to provide a reason on why they can exist on their own then... cause so far what they've told us is that they cannot co exist with Sora

Ansem the Wise did say to Riku that Sora could have the power to save those lost and those who ceased to be. So with miracle or sheer luck, Sora might find that kind of power to not only revive Ven, save Aqua, and save Terra, but also manage to make Roxas, Xion and Namine their own people.

Plus, as Sora said to Roxas, the latter is him and not Sora, and should be his own person.

 

[Ryuman]

Just to sort of round out my post regarding the various bits of KH discussion for the last few pages...

I think Braig has ulterior motives beyond just gaining power at Xehanort's side. He always had an odd air about him in BBS, and was very interested when observing the conflict. I don't think he has anyone he seeks revenge upon. If we look at the 'Destiny' scene included with the Re:Coded feature on 2.5

Spoiler: (Spoilers for the scene and for Dream Drop Distance)

We see Young Xehanort and Braig in Ansem's computer lab just before the events of DDD. Before I continue, there is a large discussion from what I recall concerning the nature of the Braig we see. I don't really want to go into it right now, but there is disagreement.

Now, we see ?Braig? and Young Xehanort discuss Master Xehanort's plans, and Braig seems to almost taunt YX and his situation. Feels like he's brewing conflict to me. The topic of MX's keyblade also seems to grab his attention. Perhaps that is his true goal? It is here that he directly mentions having his "own plans". I personally feel like Braig follows power, creates tension and swoops in to reap rewards.

Also one more thing about Braig, when Sora says to him in DDD "My friends are my power!" Braig seems... almost saddened by this He just pouts and says, "Fine, see where your power gets you here." and I always wondered why he sounded so sad. Does he... just want friends or is he really that upset that his plans to mess with Sora' s head didn't work?

Ahh, I kinda hate that exchange, haha. I didn't get the impression he was sad. I would say your latter interpretation is more correct. He's just shocked at Sora's resolve.

I don't in all honesty think anyone is going to die... if they didn't kill off Organization XIII, I doubt Terra will die... although if Darkness must prevail... maybe it is Terra who will land the final blow and he'll use darkness to do it.

Mhm. KH just ain't that kinda series. It's very much implied that everyone is going to be saved, including Roxas and Xion. I think they'll be given their own existence by the end of it all- alonside others like Naminé. Xehanort is likely not so lucky, of course.

Besides, I'd like Roxas, Xion and Namine to be their own people with hearts of their own.

They have to provide a reason on why they can exist on their own then... cause so far what they've told us is that they cannot co exist with Sora

Really, the only problem I see is that Roxas hijacked Sora's body and Xion drew from his memories. Get them some legit bodies somehow and they're set. As the series has beaten into our heads; Anything can grow a heart.

I think it would be wise if anything pertaining to the titles included in 2.8 are kept in spoiler tags. DDD may have released some time ago, but I think its inclusion to the collection should re-qualify it as there are likely many who have not yet played it.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Just to sort of round out my post regarding the various bits of KH discussion for the last few pages...

I think Braig has ulterior motives beyond just gaining power at Xehanort's side. He always had an odd air about him in BBS, and was very interested when observing the conflict. I don't think he has anyone he seeks revenge upon. If we look at the 'Destiny' scene included with the Re:Coded feature on 2.5

Spoiler: (Spoilers for the scene and for Dream Drop Distance)

We see Young Xehanort and Braig in Ansem's computer lab just before the events of DDD. Before I continue, there is a large discussion from what I recall concerning the nature of the Braig we see. I don't really want to go into it right now, but there is disagreement.

Now, we see ?Braig? and Young Xehanort discuss Master Xehanort's plans, and Braig seems to almost taunt YX and his situation. Feels like he's brewing conflict to me. The topic of MX's keyblade also seems to grab his attention. Perhaps that is his true goal? It is here that he directly mentions having his "own plans". I personally feel like Braig follows power, creates tension and swoops in to reap rewards.

Also one more thing about Braig, when Sora says to him in DDD "My friends are my power!" Braig seems... almost saddened by this He just pouts and says, "Fine, see where your power gets you here." and I always wondered why he sounded so sad. Does he... just want friends or is he really that upset that his plans to mess with Sora' s head didn't work?

Ahh, I kinda hate that exchange, haha. I didn't get the impression he was sad. I would say your latter interpretation is more correct. He's just shocked at Sora's resolve.

I don't in all honesty think anyone is going to die... if they didn't kill off Organization XIII, I doubt Terra will die... although if Darkness must prevail... maybe it is Terra who will land the final blow and he'll use darkness to do it.

Mhm. KH just ain't that kinda series. It's very much implied that everyone is going to be saved, including Roxas and Xion. I think they'll be given their own existence by the end of it all- alonside others like Naminé. Xehanort is likely not so lucky, of course.

Besides, I'd like Roxas, Xion and Namine to be their own people with hearts of their own.

They have to provide a reason on why they can exist on their own then... cause so far what they've told us is that they cannot co exist with Sora

Really, the only problem I see is that Roxas hijacked Sora's body and Xion drew from his memories. Get them some legit bodies somehow and they're set. As the series has beaten into our heads; Anything can grow a heart.

I think it would be wise if anything pertaining to the titles included in 2.8 are kept in spoiler tags. DDD may have released some time ago, but I think its inclusion to the collection should re-qualify it as there are likely many who have not yet played it.

Good point here. Plus, maybe Braig wants to steal Xehanort's Keyblade once the latter is gone for all we know.

And as you said, anything can grow a heart.

Spoiler

Roxas, Namine and Axel and even Xion were the good examples for that.