Kingdom Hearts III

[Tashasaurous]

Or it could just be difficult bidding farewell to the gang after so many years? Not to rain on your gloom parade or anything ...

I'd much rather have that than Riku, Kairi, Lea, Isa, Roxas, Xion, Namine, Terra, Ven and Aqua end up dead and Sora, Mickey, Donald and Goofy being the only ones surviving.


Plus, Nomura also said a few years back that Sora will always be the main protagonist, that certain characters' stories will continue after the Xehanort Saga which will begin in KH4 where the new saga will also start.

 

[ForceStealer]

Or it could just be difficult bidding farewell to the gang after so many years? Not to rain on your gloom parade or anything ...

Or would you "shine" on a gloom parade...?

 

[Tashasaurous]

Thinking back to when Nomura said that Sora will always be the main protagonist....


Now I can't stop but think that he'll go back onto his word on that comment and that KH3 will end up with Sora killed and the next saga will move on to someone else just like having a new antagonist.


Either way, I'm expecting KH3 to end terribly or making me and others upset.

 

[Random Nobody]

Now I can't stop but think that he'll go back onto his word on that comment and that KH3 will end up with Sora killed

Doesn't seem likely.

 

[ChipNoir]

Thinking back to when Nomura said that Sora will always be the main protagonist....


Now I can't stop but think that he'll go back onto his word on that comment and that KH3 will end up with Sora killed and the next saga will move on to someone else just like having a new antagonist.


Either way, I'm expecting KH3 to end terribly or making me and others upset.

More likely it'll be shedding the rest of the cast. Although I think he might be overestimating who would actually miss donald and goofy.

Sora is a young, evolving character (Though his growth is painfully slow), while Donald/Goofy are static icons. I can imagine any game developer would feel frustrated having to pack them along for the ride.

We'll also probably be saying goodbye to all the Nobodies and other characters that I suspect are returning on borrowed time, and that's a lot of characters that a lot of people are attached to. But if Xehanort and the quest for the Chi blade ends, so too do their relavance.

As still growing characters that are capable of exploring new ideas with, only Sora, Rikku, Kairi, and possibly Axel have any real safety to continue on to the next chapters.

 

[Arala]

Thinking back to when Nomura said that Sora will always be the main protagonist....


Now I can't stop but think that he'll go back onto his word on that comment and that KH3 will end up with Sora killed and the next saga will move on to someone else just like having a new antagonist.


Either way, I'm expecting KH3 to end terribly or making me and others upset.

More likely it'll be shedding the rest of the cast. Although I think he might be overestimating who would actually miss donald and goofy.

But I would miss Donald and Goofy! Well, not so much Donald, but I'd definitely miss Goofy.

 

[Tashasaurous]

More likely it'll be shedding the rest of the cast. Although I think he might be overestimating who would actually miss donald and goofy.

I'm not worried that the Disney Trio[Mickey, Donald and Goofy] will die because they won't because they're icons, especially Mickey.


I am certain that Ansem the Wise and Eraqus are those among that will definitely go bye-byes. I mean, if I remember correctly, Mark Hamil's making another appearence in KH3, so adult Eraqus has to have a role in this somewhere. Maybe sacrificing himself to help Sora free and save Terra?


Plus, what's the point of Sora being chosen to save those who need to be saved and have the power to bring those back who were lost or ceased to exist(Aka: Aqua, Ven, Terra, Axel/Lea-who was already revived-Roxas, Xion and Namine) if they're still going to die forever?

We'll also probably be saying goodbye to all the Nobodies and other characters that I suspect are returning on borrowed time, and that's a lot of characters that a lot of people are attached to. But if Xehanort and the quest for the Chi blade ends, so too do their relavance.

I think Marluxia will still have a role and maybe Braig too even after Xehanort is killed.


Plus I'm really hoping for Isa to revive as a normal human and go all Kain from FFIV and go on a self-journey for redemption.

As still growing characters that are capable of exploring new ideas with, only Sora, Rikku, Kairi, and possibly Axel have any real safety to continue on to the next chapters.

What about Ven? His past probably won't be fully revealed in KH3 and he has a connection with Marluxia since both of them were in Union X. That has to lead somewhere.


And I have sudden doubts and strong worries for Kairi since she isn't seen much and I REALLY don't want her to end up being cut off or die permamently. I love her so much!

 

[ChipNoir]

More likely it'll be shedding the rest of the cast. Although I think he might be overestimating who would actually miss donald and goofy.

I'm not worried that the Disney Trio[Mickey, Donald and Goofy] will die because they won't because they're icons, especially Mickey.


I am certain that Ansem the Wise and Eraqus are those among that will definitely go bye-byes. I mean, if I remember correctly, Mark Hamil's making another appearence in KH3, so adult Eraqus has to have a role in this somewhere. Maybe sacrificing himself to help Sora free and save Terra?


Plus, what's the point of Sora being chosen to save those who need to be saved and have the power to bring those back who were lost or ceased to exist(Aka: Aqua, Ven, Terra, Axel/Lea-who was already revived-Roxas, Xion and Namine) if they're still going to die forever?

We'll also probably be saying goodbye to all the Nobodies and other characters that I suspect are returning on borrowed time, and that's a lot of characters that a lot of people are attached to. But if Xehanort and the quest for the Chi blade ends, so too do their relavance.

I think Marluxia will still have a role and maybe Braig too even after Xehanort is killed.


Plus I'm really hoping for Isa to revive as a normal human and go all Kain from FFIV and go on a self-journey for redemption.

As still growing characters that are capable of exploring new ideas with, only Sora, Rikku, Kairi, and possibly Axel have any real safety to continue on to the next chapters.

What about Ven? His past probably won't be fully revealed in KH3 and he has a connection with Marluxia since both of them were in Union X. That has to lead somewhere.


And I have sudden doubts and strong worries for Kairi since she isn't seen much and I REALLY don't want her to end up being cut off or die permamently. I love her so much!

I don't have BBS sleep from what I remember, but Ven is the one I expect to be on borrowed time, as is Terra. So I expect those two to "Fade", as will Roxas and Namine if they're needed, since they're parts that Sora/Kairi need to be whole.

Donald and Goofy I don't expect to die, but I expect them to go back to their lives as parts of Mickey's court.

Aqua I expect to take on the duties of teaching a new generation of keyblade masters.

Axel is a wildcad, as are the nobodies and that whole vague notion that they're growing their own hearts over time.

But Sora, Riku, and Kairi are going to be mainstays across the entire series. If they really want, they can build an entire sidegame for Kairi and sell it on mobile.

 

[Tashasaurous]

I don't have BBS sleep from what I remember, but Ven is the one I expect to be on borrowed time, as is Terra. So I expect those two to "Fade", as will Roxas and Namine if they're needed, since they're parts that Sora/Kairi need to be whole.

Even though Ven and Terra both are who Sora needs to rescue along with everyone else. Plus Sora wants to figure out a way to bring Roxas back and make him and very possibly Namine to become human.


I really had believed that Sora would save the BBS trio and the Sea Salt Trio and Namine who deserve a better life and needed to be saved from their hurting, not end up having their existances end completely, up until Nomura said that the game will be darker and the ending will be "Hard to Swallow" and that just screams "There's no such thing as a happy ending in the Xehanort Saga unless it's Disney Movie worlds"...


Well, except for the Toy Story world since that event will lead to Toy Story 3.

Donald and Goofy I don't expect to die, but I expect them to go back to their lives as parts of Mickey's court.

Even though they could return for the next Saga as well since Disney owns all of the original Kingdom Hearts characters despite said characters being half Disney and half Final Fantasy characters since Nomura created them.

Aqua I expect to take on the duties of teaching a new generation of keyblade masters.

Axel is a wildcad, as are the nobodies and that whole vague notion that they're growing their own hearts over time.

But Sora, Riku, and Kairi are going to be mainstays across the entire series. If they really want, they can build an entire sidegame for Kairi and sell it on mobile.

I was hoping for Aqua to reunite with Ven and Terra, but that's most likely not happening.


Axel returned as a human(Aka: Lea) as did some of the other Nobodies(Even, Dilan, Aeleus and Ienzo) since once both a Heartless half and Nobody half are destroyed, they fuse together to restore their original. Plus, Lea/Axel is most people's favorite character and most of us want to see more of him.


Or else why even borther bringing Xehanort back for the final battle?


That's the thing. Sora will return as the main protagonist(unless Nomura changed his mind on that, like he always does with everything he works on), and we're not 100% certain if Riku and Kairi will return as well even though we want to.


All this craziness on KH3 being darker than the other titles and the "Hard to Swallow" ending makes the future for all of the protagonists and main support characters very likely to uncertainty.

 

[Ryuman]

So, what's going on in here... Oh. Ahhhhh...

I guess it's my turn to "shine on your gloom parade". This "hard to swallow" stuff is based on a mistranslation. Here's a summary of Nomura's words. There was a transcript but SE asked KHInsider to remove it.
https://www.khinsider.com/news/KINGDOM-HEARTS-3-Premiere-Part-1-The-Developer-Panel-12037

 

[Arala]

Personally, I have a feeling that Riku is going to die saving Sora or something. That would be hard to swallow for fans, I think. None of the disney characters will die, because they're, well, Disney, and Disney would not allow it. And characters dying in Kingdom Hearts and not being revived would be 'hard to swallow'. The only other thing that could be hard to swallow would be Sora and Kairi getting married in the end and having a child... yeah, that wouldn't happen.

Edit: Ah, okay. A mistranslation. There goes my Riku is going to die theory.

 

[ChipNoir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Scp7Q5oHTk Kairi's outfit for KHIII apparently showed up.

 

[Arala]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Scp7Q5oHTk Kairi's outfit for KHIII apparently showed up.

That dress looks ridiculous. It looks like something you would put on a doll. Surely that can't be Kairi's new dress? And if she had those cat ears along with it... I just don't know what to say. It looks awful IMO.

 

[Tashasaurous]

So, what's going on in here... Oh. Ahhhhh...

I guess it's my turn to "shine on your gloom parade". This "hard to swallow" stuff is based on a mistranslation. Here's a summary of Nomura's words. There was a transcript but SE asked KHInsider to remove it.
https://www.khinsider.com/news/KINGDOM-HEARTS-3-Premiere-Part-1-The-Developer-Panel-12037

The KH13 Forum has that too, and I hope that it won't be as bad as everyone's thinking.


So this at least still has some of my hope for a happy ending in place. Thanks.

Personally, I have a feeling that Riku is going to die saving Sora or something. That would be hard to swallow for fans, I think. None of the disney characters will die, because they're, well, Disney, and Disney would not allow it. And characters dying in Kingdom Hearts and not being revived would be 'hard to swallow'. The only other thing that could be hard to swallow would be Sora and Kairi getting married in the end and having a child... yeah, that wouldn't happen.

Edit: Ah, okay. A mistranslation. There goes my Riku is going to die theory.

Nah. Sora and Kairi won't be getting married anytime soon.


And before they lost their rights to it, in Tarzan, Kerchek died and wasn't revived. That's still a disney film, though. And let's not forget Mufasa in the Lion King, and Konchum who was shot dead in Pocahontas.


Plus, your theory on Riku going to die could still be plausible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Scp7Q5oHTk Kairi's outfit for KHIII apparently showed up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Scp7Q5oHTk Kairi's outfit for KHIII apparently showed up.

That dress looks ridiculous. It looks like something you would put on a doll. Surely that can't be Kairi's new dress? And if she had those cat ears along with it... I just don't know what to say. It looks awful IMO.

If you look back on that KHX Card with KH3 Sora, KH3 Riku and KH3 Kairi with Ephemer, Skuld and Ven, you can still see the cat ears on the hood of Kairi's new outfit.


In truth, I'm not overly fond of Sora's new KH3 outfit either. His KH2 outfit is still the best. I'm just wondering what Lea's outfit would look like(just hope it's not a near replica of his BBS outfit when he was a teenager).

 

[Ryuman]

Well I think it's cute. I want to see how the proportions work out though.

 

[Tashasaurous]

I had been expecting them to reveal Kairi's outfit in another KH3 trailer. Maybe they're saving it for when the game is fully released and decided to give us a sneak peak in Union X?


I kinda like it too. Still prefer the main characters' KH2 outfits, though.


Edit: Just found out that KH3 demo could be available in this year's E3 event next month!

 

[Arala]

I just cannot bring myself to like Kairi's new outfit. I'm not keen on Sora's, either. Riku's is okay, but I don't like Riku's hair. I like the KH2 outfits the best.

I hope Axel/Lea will look good. He was my fave character in KH2. And I hope his hair hasn't been cut or restyled or anything.

As for a demo being at E3, I hope there'll be a demo on the psn store as well. I can't get to E3.

 

[Tashasaurous]

I just cannot bring myself to like Kairi's new outfit. I'm not keen on Sora's, either. Riku's is okay, but I don't like Riku's hair. I like the KH2 outfits the best.

Yeah, Riku looks a bit like Noctis right now, doesn't he?

I hope Axel/Lea will look good. He was my fave character in KH2. And I hope his hair hasn't been cut or restyled or anything.

Me too! Let him keep his current hairstyle and just give him a new outfit.

As for a demo being at E3, I hope there'll be a demo on the psn store as well. I can't get to E3.

Could be.

But back to the theory, most people still believe that KH3 will end up similiar to Infinity War which is making my hope for a happy ending for the game pretty much worthless.

So I'm just gonna go straight ahead and accept that those that Sora was supposed to save will just end up dead and accept that the ending will be a tragic and sad one, especially since Kairi(one of my favorites) will die and she won't return for the next saga. The only game that will ever have a happy ending will always be KH2.

A happy ending is never meant to be for the KH characters.

Edit: Or maybe Sora ends up in the Realm of Darkness after saving the worlds and in the secret ending he retuns only to find that a century or two has passed and he is all alone with all of his friends gone and we move on the next saga where he struggles to find his place in the new future.

Either way, the ending is going to end up bad.

Edit 2: Or maybe it's in reverse(because everything Nomura says I find is always in reverse) and that it's Sora who will end up dead in KH3 and Xehanort will always be the main Antagonist for the entire series.

 

[Alex Strife]

Tash. Chill.

 

[JechtShotMK9]

Tash. Chill.

This, for the love of God.

 

[ChipNoir]

At this point, nobody in the KH franchise as 'died'. It's as bad as comic books. There's ALWAYS a way to bring them back. They literally played Goofy dying as a joke they turned around on within 3 minutes.

It's really more likely that certain characters will just 'retire' from the franchise as it moves on to the next arc. I really do hope Donald and Goofy GTFO.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Tash. Chill.

At this point, nobody in the KH franchise as 'died'. It's as bad as comic books. There's ALWAYS a way to bring them back. They literally played Goofy dying as a joke they turned around on within 3 minutes.

It's really more likely that certain characters will just 'retire' from the franchise as it moves on to the next arc. I really do hope Donald and Goofy GTFO.

Sorry. I just can't help but think of the worst. It's just there is a chance that there will be permemant deaths this time.

Not only that,

Spoiler: (KHX Spoiler)

Strelitzia ended up dead just two weeks after she was introduced.

And let's not forget how many died in the first Keyblade War and left behind the Graveyard.

I'm hoping for Mickey, Donald and Goofy to return for the next saga, unless the next saga focuses on more on Final Fantasy characters and have Sora pair up with some Final Fantasy sidekicks-like not brief team up in certain battles like with Cloud, Leon, and Auron.

It's hard to say.

 

[Lulcielid]

Today, Square Enix released their earnings briefing session on May 11th. In it, Yosuke Matsuda said that they will not be releasing any major HD titles until Shadow of the Tomb Raider in Sept. 14th.

http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/18q4outline.pdf

Kingdom Hearts III confirmed to release sometime in Q4.

 

[Lex]

I saw the news that it's confirmed for Q4, that's good. I predict a November release.

This indirectly confirms that remake won't be releasing this year, which is no shock.

 

[Tashasaurous]

I saw the news that it's confirmed for Q4, that's good. I predict a November release.

I predicted a November release for the last couple of months before this news came into light, and my sister agrees. So yeah, November is the most likely month. Only way to confirm it for real is for Nomura to say it next week.

This indirectly confirms that remake won't be releasing this year, which is no shock.

It was pretty much obvious that FFVII Remake wasn't going to be out this year because one, Nomura is focused more on KH3 and two, Square pulled out from CC2 and they're starting that game from scratch.