Locked Heart // Tifa Lockhart

[Raquelborn]

Shame Tifa looks nothing like that now.

Rip off that gilet thing, take off the apron and take off that half-skirt/cape and you've got a eye-watering Tifa back I reckon.

Does anyone actually prefer her Crisis Core cowgirl outfit to the original game outfit?



P.s. I can't find the Intertwining Hearts track on the Reunion Tracks webpage. Is the track name in Japanese?

 

[Max Payne]

Rip off that gilet thing, take off the apron and take off that half-skirt/cape and you've got a eye-watering Tifa back I reckon.

Except she still doesn't have the striking red eyes or the thick brown long dolphin tailed hair.

Her hair is a much darker color almost black with tints of brown sometimes and half the time her eyes look brown/orange/whatever now.

 

[Frostwave]

It woulda been awesome if Tifa had been rendered with the coloring she's supposed to have. She looks fine, but I don't see why they had to darken her hair, and turn her eyes brown.

 

[Max Payne]

I could deal with the hair color change if her hair was as lustrous as it used to be, instead of generic japanese hair cut syndrome. Instead all we get is bawwing about hair animation yet Sefiros has MASSIVE HAIR.

 

[Cthulhu]

Actually, they kinda haxxed with the hair - instead of rendering each hair separately (see Spirits Within), they've clumped the hair together in bits, making it much easier to animate and render. Hax, imho.

 

[Raquelborn]

Except she still doesn't have the striking red eyes or the thick brown long dolphin tailed hair.

Her hair is a much darker color almost black with tints of brown sometimes and half the time her eyes look brown/orange/whatever now.

It woulda been awesome if Tifa had been rendered with the coloring she's supposed to have. She's looks fine, but I don't see why they had to darken her hair, and turn her eyes brown.

They changed her eye colour apparently to make sure the light reflected realistically off her eyes. Although that doesn't explain why they darkened her hair (in ACC they made it browner again though).

I just wish they'd kept her hair long. Again it was to do with her hair being difficult to animate but they did okay with Sephiroth's. Maybe animating her tied in a bob is a major pain in the backside? I imagine so.

 

[Max Payne]

Actually, they kinda haxxed with the hair - instead of rendering each hair separately (see Spirits Within), they've clumped the hair together in bits, making it much easier to animate and render. Hax, imho.

Yeah I can see that, but they clearly had shitloads of strands of Sefiro's hair all over the goddamn place during his scenes.

No reason for them to chop Tifa's hair off other than laziness. Hair in a bob would be much easier to animate than what they wound up doing tbh. All you'd have to do is move all of the strands the same way, since they're all tied together, they'd only have to worry about the bangs. Haxxor animation like Yopy said.

Also, the light reflection is a poor excuse to. If you know what you're doing in 3d animation you can make any eye color mesh with lighting. Sounds like bullshit.

Also, where was this said?

 

[Max Payne]

also, using realism as an excuse for anything in AC is a fucking joke.

 

[Raquelborn]

No reason for them to chop Tifa's hair off other than laziness. Hair in a bob would be much easier to animate than what they wound up doing tbh. All you'd have to do is move all of the strands the same way, since they're all tied together, they'd only have to worry about the bangs. Haxxor animation like Yopy said.

Well hopefully if we get a remake..

Also, the light reflection is a poor excuse to. If you know what you're doing in 3d animation you can make any eye color mesh with lighting. Sounds like bullshit.

Also, where was this said?

I either saw it being quoted by someone else or it was explained in the DVD extras. I just recall seeing a creator's face and him explaining it, so I'm pretty sure it was the latter.

also, using realism as an excuse for anything in AC is a fucking joke.

My thoughts as I was writing it, but that wasn't the exact wording used anyway. It's too late at night for me to recall it properly.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Well, the odd thing is, the eyes in her FF7 era render are redder than the AC/C era render. I think it's the Mako, 'in universe'. Out of universe, eh.

 

[Max Payne]

I'm not sure I understood what you were trying to say there.

 

[Frostwave]

Me neither. Come again?

 

[looneymoon]

I think he was referring to this pic, but I can't tell too much as her eyes aren't too visable.

 

[Frostwave]

Oh yeah. I forgot about that render they did of her in her VII outfit.

Nah, I can't see the eyes well, either.

 

[Max Payne]

Her eyes don't look red to me at all in her FF7 render. Just very dark.

 

[Cthulhu]

'very dark' could be anywhere between black to red, 's all due to shading an' shit. It's also quite likely her hair looks lighter in ACC because of different lighting techniques, but I might be wrong on that. Anyone got a comparison picture?

 

[Raquelborn]

'very dark' could be anywhere between black to red, 's all due to shading an' shit. It's also quite likely her hair looks lighter in ACC because of different lighting techniques, but I might be wrong on that. Anyone got a comparison picture?

I just kind of threw this together (so it's a bit untidy) but here:

Spoiler

Her hair is lighter in that ACC screenshot but the part of her hair receiving the most light in the OG outfit picture is the same colour and during a lot of ACC her hair looked as black as in the rest of the OG render. They haven't changed anything there.

As far as her eyes go, it was such a zoom you can see the OG render has got all murky but they are still very dark brown as far as I can tell.

When did they first show the OG renders? Was it before or after the release of Advent Children?

 

[Cthulhu]

I'm assuming after or during its production, at least I can't remember anything like that being shown when I went to AC.net first, before the release of the movie. It might've been practice / demo material for the movie though, to see what they could do with their technology.

 

[Ryushikaze]

It was the 10th Anniversary, IIRC. And I recall the pic as a whole looking brighter and her eyes slightly red tinted in the shots from the event the pics first appeared in, but that could have been existing lighting

 

[Max Payne]

'very dark' could be anywhere between black to red, 's all due to shading an' shit. It's also quite likely her hair looks lighter in ACC because of different lighting techniques, but I might be wrong on that. Anyone got a comparison picture?

Actually no. Once you get past a certain point in color graduation an image loses most of it's color if not all of it. So her eyes are pretty much VERY DARK in the image. There's no way of telling if her eyes are red or brown in that picture.

Going with how the renders turned out in AC and ACC, brown is probably what it is.

 

[Raquelborn]

It was the 10th Anniversary, IIRC. And I recall the pic as a whole looking brighter and her eyes slightly red tinted in the shots from the event the pics first appeared in, but that could have been existing lighting

The 10th Anniversary was 2007, right? Which is one year after the release of AC (2006) so it's unlikely they would of changed her eye colour from brown to reddish just for the OG render anyway.

 

[Tennyo]

Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe they changed Tifa's eyes from red to brown because they didn't want her to have the same eye color as Vincent?

I think he was referring to this pic, but I can't tell too much as her eyes aren't too visable.

That is the shittiest wallpaper job ever.

Also he didn't change it enough to warrant putting his name on it for credit.

 

[looneymoon]

Shitty wallpaper is def. shitty, I just took what I found quickly on google image lulz

 

[Max Payne]

Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe they changed Tifa's eyes from red to brown because they didn't want her to have the same eye color as Vincent?

no, because that's a stupid reason.

 

[Hinata Hyuga]

I doubt they care if people have eye color in common. There are a lot of blue-eyed people.

I think they just wanted to make Tifa look like a typical, pretty Japanese(y) woman.