Love Triangle Spoiler Thread

[spirit3d]

Sera's icon is win.

Apparently Cloud is never worried about Tifa being in danger and it takes a random "thought of Aerith" to save her - well, after he saves Denzel because Denzel is more important than her, too. Everything is!

I cannot for the life of me understand how they manage to f*ck up the interpretation of that scene.

Denzel facing off shadowcreepers, too many for him to handle even if he fights:
Zack facing off Shinra, too many for him to handle despite fighting, eventually dies.

Tifa in a vulnerable position, focus is on Denzel, unaware of impending danger from above
Aerith in vulnerable position, focus is on Cloud, unaware of impending danger from above, eventually dies.

How the hell can they miss the obvious parallels that SE is trying to make? The fact that history could repeat itself in almost the exact same way spurs Cloud on. Why the heck have they turned it into "sequence of appearance means ROMANTIC LUFF".
God. *headdesks*

The order is Aerith, Aerith, Tifa, Marlene, Denzel and Zack.
Two Aerith scenes, actually. And Zack's kinda lingered.

That's pretty understandable, I guess. Zack's flashback was last because it eased transition into the Cloud/Zack back to back scene.

I'm more interested in how Safe and Sound is going to be a love song between Cloud and Aerith. I'm waiting for their answers.

I first thought that it's impossible for them to interpret Safe and Sound as a Clerith song, but those pinkers are hella imaginative...so I'm not going to underestimate their abilities and wait for the funnies to come in.

 

[namakemono]

Agrees.

AND HOLY CARP. THAT ICON PAWNS. *dies*


Haha. I don't think ACC did much to change things with regards to the LTD. Except that it brought more Clack proofz

 

[Tennyo]

Holy flip, ACC was so Clack centered. It's almost enough to make me into a hardcore shipper.

 

[A]

Also according to Clerii, Cloud only bothered to save Tifa cause the situation reminded him of Aerith. He didn't REALLY care to bother with that!

Clerri's have to make Tifa look like a piece of trash in order for their pairing to work. Naturally it works the same way now.

Seriously though, at this point, there's no use into even arguing the LTD. I mean, the past weeks all we've been getting were Cloti and Zerith related quotes/scenes/etc., (ex. Tifa a catalyst to Cloud? This must break their hearts), and it's just denial that's now getting in the way.

What more confirmation do they need? Cloud stays with Tifa out of no other obligation than he WANTS to be with her. He says as much for crying out loud. He loved her at age 8 and he loved her at age 14 and he loved her at age 21 and he'll love her (long time) in the lifestream.

Wherever Tifa is, is where Cloud belongs. So sayeth the creator.

Oh right, and how Tifa 'gently' welcomes him back home when he comes back.

I wonder if the Clerii will enjoy spazzing about symbolism now.

Symbolism for what is shown there:

Sword + Flowers = Zerith? Plausible.

.... Compared to.

Oh, and I would love to hear what they think about the fact that because Zack will always stay by Aerith's side, it'll clearly get in the way of Cloud and Aerith's special time together, am I right? So does this mean that Aerith will gtfo? Seems a little OOC for her to do.

On a slight random note, I don't think Aerith's name is mentioned at all in ACC is it? It's quite a shame. Watching the CLACK clip, I think it would've been a nice opportunity for Tifa to mention Aerith's name, whilst thanking her at the same time. It'd only be fair.

This. One of things I wanted to see in ACC. Awr.

The order is Aerith, Aerith, Tifa, Marlene, Denzel and Zack.
Two Aerith scenes, actually. And Zack's kinda lingered.

Makes me laugh at how they still use this as proof when we have a whole shitload of quotes and scenes added for support of the Cloud and Tifa pairing.

I'm more interested in how Safe and Sound is going to be a love song between Cloud and Aerith. I'm waiting for their answers.

Lol, because they needed a better love song?

Holy flip, ACC was so Clack centered. It's almost enough to make me into a hardcore shipper.

CLACK IS CANON PEOPLE.

 

[OneWingedDemon]

Clerri's have to make Tifa look like a piece of trash in order for their pairing to work

No, everyone has to be a pathetic asshole for their pairing to work.

Zack is a shameless womanizer who cheats on Aeris with other women. He wasn't serious about her and didn't want to meet her mother. He totally copied Cloud. He keeps flirting with Aeris despite her shooting him down several times. Hell, he keeps wanting to steal his best friend's girlfriend in the Lifestream after she'd made it obvious she onry roves Kuraudo and he onry roves Erisu. What a fucktard, eh?

Tifa is, of course, a clingy bitch ho who doesn't get it. She keeps gushing over Cloud and he's never interested. She doesn't understand him and she keeps lecturing him instead of encouraging him to wallow in self pity. She can't take a hint.

And it is, of course, perfectly acceptable for Cloud to ditch his kids and partner to sulk because he's doing it for Aeris. He decides to live with the girl who he knows has feelings for him and raise kids with her...but in a totally platonic way, dude!
It's also fine if he never answers his phone or his friends if he's doing it for Aeris. It's ok if he's letting down the kids, because he's doing it for Aeris.

Everyone's character must be bastardized because in their self-insertion fantasies, the guy can be a total asshole to everyone around but NEVAH to the one he wuvs. In fact, this kind of behavior makes the silly Clerii fatasses this woman feel all the more special if he's an asshole to everyone except his one twu wuv.

Deep down they all want to be a Mary Sue in some bad Twilight fanfiction

 

[kelly20]

No, everyone has to be a pathetic asshole for their pairing to work.

Zack is a shameless womanizer who cheats on Aeris with other women. He wasn't serious about her and didn't want to meet her mother. He totally copied Cloud. He keeps flirting with Aeris despite her shooting him down several times. Hell, he keeps wanting to steal his best friend's girlfriend in the Lifestream after she'd made it obvious she onry roves Kuraudo and he onry roves Erisu. What a fucktard, eh?

Tifa is, of course, a clingy bitch ho who doesn't get it. She keeps gushing over Cloud and he's never interested. She doesn't understand him and she keeps lecturing him instead of encouraging him to wallow in self pity. She can't take a hint.

And it is, of course, perfectly acceptable for Cloud to ditch his kids and partner to sulk because he's doing it for Aeris. He decides to live with the girl who he knows has feelings for him and raise kids with her...but in a totally platonic way, dude!
It's also fine if he never answers his phone or his friends if he's doing it for Aeris. It's ok if he's letting down the kids, because he's doing it for Aeris.

Everyone's character must be bastardized because in their self-insertion fantasies, the guy can be a total asshole to everyone around but NEVAH to the one he wuvs. In fact, this kind of behavior makes the silly Clerii fatasses this woman feel all the more special if he's an asshole to everyone except his one twu wuv.

Deep down they all want to be a Mary Sue in some bad Twilight fanfiction

LOL... whoa.. you put it quite well.. I hope The revised Ultimanias put even more undeniable truth.. but somehow I think it still wont matter...

to a certain group...

 

[Isabella]

It's so true. Every time I think of the argument that Cloud's living with Tifa because she cooks for him and does his laundry, it pisses me off as a Cloud fan.

 

[Shadowfox]

OWD, you just listed out most of the things that tick me off with the rabid Cleriths arguing for their pairing -- their insatiable need to denigrate every character, including Aerith.

 

[A]

Wow, that's all just true. And like Shadowfox said, Aerith herself has to look like a horrible character, and put off disregard that everything that Zack and Tifa do is considered 'tragic.'

Why would SE make Tifa such a sad character now?

 

[Ⓐaron]

No, everyone has to be a pathetic asshole for their pairing to work.

Zack is a shameless womanizer who cheats on Aeris with other women. He wasn't serious about her and didn't want to meet her mother. He totally copied Cloud. He keeps flirting with Aeris despite her shooting him down several times. Hell, he keeps wanting to steal his best friend's girlfriend in the Lifestream after she'd made it obvious she onry roves Kuraudo and he onry roves Erisu. What a fucktard, eh?

Tifa is, of course, a clingy bitch ho who doesn't get it. She keeps gushing over Cloud and he's never interested. She doesn't understand him and she keeps lecturing him instead of encouraging him to wallow in self pity. She can't take a hint.

And it is, of course, perfectly acceptable for Cloud to ditch his kids and partner to sulk because he's doing it for Aeris. He decides to live with the girl who he knows has feelings for him and raise kids with her...but in a totally platonic way, dude!
It's also fine if he never answers his phone or his friends if he's doing it for Aeris. It's ok if he's letting down the kids, because he's doing it for Aeris.

Everyone's character must be bastardized because in their self-insertion fantasies, the guy can be a total asshole to everyone around but NEVAH to the one he wuvs. In fact, this kind of behavior makes the silly Clerii fatasses this woman feel all the more special if he's an asshole to everyone except his one twu wuv.

Deep down they all want to be a Mary Sue in some bad Twilight fanfiction

That post was just epic. GJ.

 

[A]

It's also pretty amusing that they some only enjoy the games/movies for the sake of Aerith - if there's anyone else added into the movie/games, then it must automatically suck.

 

[ShuShu]

Ugh. Why can't they just accept it? Cloud and Aerith are *NOT* in love. Or..WHY? Would they change the ending to better fit Zack and Aerith walking away together close, why is he always by her side, why AERITHS FLOWERS on the place he died, and WHY put the buster sword in the location they met? And why are they adopting children? Hmm? Why? Why? Why?

Aaaand why add in a scene of the promise for Cloud and Tifa? Which a new track called 'Nibelhiem' We're their promise was created and tested is also put into an already very calming and romantic scene? and Clouds guilt and geostigma so strong it renders him unconsious? Whyyyyyyy?

I mean, its not like they arent cramming the canon pairing down our throats or anything! NOT AT ALL!


That and watching this over and over I've realized things I hadnt before, but Tifa's smile to Cloud, and Clouds smile to Tifa, closeups, Damn cute and all, but Tifa's new little smile when her knight saved her...Fucking beautiful <3 She should smile so much more often..Oh my god. And Clouds smile at Zack and Aerith didnt seem as upturned.. O o Screenshots anyone? Maybe I just havent watched AC original in awhile but I remembered it alot more heartfelt than what it was...

To bad Aerith and Zack were already gone and disappeared before he smiled. Bringing up a good point my friend made.

"He looks more like he's smiling in general, not at anyone, since no one is even there anymore..."

Thoughts? Or are we deluded and twisting plotlines again.

 

[A]

Whoa, lol ShuShu, calm now...

And are you asking us why they can't accept that Cloud and Aerith are not in love, thus writing "thoughts?" into your last line?

 

[Rinoa]

@Cloud not caring
Did everyone forget that Cloud stayed in a bedroom watching over a sleeping Tifa until night? (both versions of the movie)

Hmm? Why? Why? Why?

They're deleting/revising their claims as you type this. I find it sad that they don't realize how in the wrong they are, despite changing their claims every second.

 

[keishajl]

Ugh. Why can't they just accept it? Cloud and Aerith are *NOT* in love. Or..WHY? Would they change the ending to better fit Zack and Aerith walking away together close, why is he always by her side, why AERITHS FLOWERS on the place he died, and WHY put the buster sword in the location they met? And why are they adopting children? Hmm? Why? Why? Why?

Aaaand why add in a scene of the promise for Cloud and Tifa? Which a new track called 'Nibelhiem' We're their promise was created and tested is also put into an already very calming and romantic scene? and Clouds guilt and geostigma so strong it renders him unconsious? Whyyyyyyy?

I mean, its not like they arent cramming the canon pairing down our throats or anything! NOT AT ALL!


That and watching this over and over I've realized things I hadnt before, but Tifa's smile to Cloud, and Clouds smile to Tifa, closeups, Damn cute and all, but Tifa's new little smile when her knight saved her...Fucking beautiful <3 She should smile so much more often..Oh my god. And Clouds smile at Zack and Aerith didnt seem as upturned.. O o Screenshots anyone? Maybe I just havent watched AC original in awhile but I remembered it alot more heartfelt than what it was...

To bad Aerith and Zack were already gone and disappeared before he smiled. Bringing up a good point my friend made.

"He looks more like he's smiling in general, not at anyone, since no one is even there anymore..."

Thoughts? Or are we deluded and twisting plotlines again.

you said EVERTHING!!

 

[A]

Did everyone forget that Cloud stayed in a bedroom watching over a sleeping Tifa until night? (both versions of the movie)

I just realized that.

They're deleting/revising their claims as you type this. I find it sad that they don't realize how in the wrong they are, despite changing their claims every second.

Like how they first said that back-to-back scene with Cloud and Aerith wasn't important at first because they didn't consider it romantic after hearing rumors about it being deleted...?

 

[Fairheartstrife]

I just realized that.


Like how they first said that back-to-back scene with Cloud and Aerith wasn't important at first because they didn't consider it romantic after hearing rumors about it being deleted...?

Nothing says romance like having your back to someone. That just screams "twu wuv."

**coughclackcough**

 

[Celes Chere]

Like how they first said that back-to-back scene with Cloud and Aerith wasn't important at first because they didn't consider it romantic after hearing rumors about it being deleted...?

O rly? It's not romantic, and it never has been romantic, especially when the Ultimania refers to Aerith as a Mother TWICE to when that screen shot is used. First to Cloud, then to the planet.

 

[I Am Not Me]

Spoiler: THE MOST EPIC POST

No, everyone has to be a pathetic asshole for their pairing to work.

Zack is a shameless womanizer who cheats on Aeris with other women. He wasn't serious about her and didn't want to meet her mother. He totally copied Cloud. He keeps flirting with Aeris despite her shooting him down several times. Hell, he keeps wanting to steal his best friend's girlfriend in the Lifestream after she'd made it obvious she onry roves Kuraudo and he onry roves Erisu. What a fucktard, eh?

Tifa is, of course, a clingy bitch ho who doesn't get it. She keeps gushing over Cloud and he's never interested. She doesn't understand him and she keeps lecturing him instead of encouraging him to wallow in self pity. She can't take a hint.

And it is, of course, perfectly acceptable for Cloud to ditch his kids and partner to sulk because he's doing it for Aeris. He decides to live with the girl who he knows has feelings for him and raise kids with her...but in a totally platonic way, dude!
It's also fine if he never answers his phone or his friends if he's doing it for Aeris. It's ok if he's letting down the kids, because he's doing it for Aeris.

Everyone's character must be bastardized because in their self-insertion fantasies, the guy can be a total asshole to everyone around but NEVAH to the one he wuvs. In fact, this kind of behavior makes the silly Clerii fatasses this woman feel all the more special if he's an asshole to everyone except his one twu wuv.

Deep down they all want to be a Mary Sue in some bad Twilight fanfiction

I bet they all like Twilight too.

Although that's me being too mean. I don't really want to insult them by saying something like that about them.

And your post = EPIC

Ugh. Why can't they just accept it? Cloud and Aerith are *NOT* in love. Or..WHY? Would they change the ending to better fit Zack and Aerith walking away together close, why is he always by her side, why AERITHS FLOWERS on the place he died, and WHY put the buster sword in the location they met? And why are they adopting children? Hmm? Why? Why? Why?

Aaaand why add in a scene of the promise for Cloud and Tifa? Which a new track called 'Nibelhiem' We're their promise was created and tested is also put into an already very calming and romantic scene? and Clouds guilt and geostigma so strong it renders him unconsious? Whyyyyyyy?

I mean, its not like they arent cramming the canon pairing down our throats or anything! NOT AT ALL!


That and watching this over and over I've realized things I hadnt before, but Tifa's smile to Cloud, and Clouds smile to Tifa, closeups, Damn cute and all, but Tifa's new little smile when her knight saved her...Fucking beautiful <3 She should smile so much more often..Oh my god. And Clouds smile at Zack and Aerith didnt seem as upturned.. O o Screenshots anyone? Maybe I just havent watched AC original in awhile but I remembered it alot more heartfelt than what it was...

To bad Aerith and Zack were already gone and disappeared before he smiled. Bringing up a good point my friend made.

"He looks more like he's smiling in general, not at anyone, since no one is even there anymore..."

Thoughts? Or are we deluded and twisting plotlines again.

OBVIOUSLY WE ARE TWISTING PLOTLINES! LIKE ALWAYS

They're deleting/revising their claims as you type this. I find it sad that they don't realize how in the wrong they are, despite changing their claims every second.

How do people even know their claims anywho?

 

[A]

Nothing says romance like having your back to someone. That just screams "twu wuv."

Well, it screams twu luv a lot more than saving the girl you've promised to save for over ten years.

And FHS, your sig is win, hahahhaa.

O rly? It's not romantic, and it never has been romantic, especially when the Ultimania refers to Aerith as a Mother TWICE to when that screen shot is used. First to Cloud, then to the planet.

Oh right, how could I forget...

Though, it is a very sweet scene. I'm glad they didn't delete that part, and glad that they didn't delete any other Aerith scenes (besides Calling). And more Zerith is epic, always.

Although that's me being too mean. I don't really want to insult them by saying something like that about them.

I Am Not Me, I don't think anyone likes Twilight.

How do people even know their claims anywho?

Resources.

 

[I Am Not Me]

I Am Not Me, I don't think anyone likes Twilight.

INORITE I'm not so lowly as to insult them that way. They don't deserve to be labeled as Twilighters. NOBODY DOES.

Resources.

Curiouser and curiouser...

 

[Ⓐaron]

I Am Not Me, I don't think anyone likes Twilight.

If anyone likes Twilight, it's got to be Cleriths

 

[Channy]

Umm.. where have you lot been. There are tons of Twitard sites proclaiming that ITSS THA BEST BUK EVAAAAAAAAAAAR" and how so many girls argue over Edward being their bf and how guys should be like that irl.

Then again, the Twitard merchandise such as shirts that I saw today "I <3 guys who sparkle" indicates that there are, in fact, sad little girls out there in the world that will latch on to anything.

Edit: AARON YOU BASTARD TAKE THAT BACK. ;_; I hate Twilight.

 

[Celes Chere]

Though, it is a very sweet scene. I'm glad they didn't delete that part, and glad that they didn't delete any other Aerith scenes (besides Calling). And more Zerith is epic, always.

I agree Ali, it's a very lovely scene. I am also glad that they did not rid of it. It's never been romantic though, and it never will be. I'm very pleased with the Zerith hints in the movie. Well, they weren't really hints at all. ACC has set things pretty much in stone, imo.

I've already seen "this is where a hero began his journey" be twisted in the most unimaginable way possible... I really am wondering how anything else can be twisted.

Edit: The fact that you can buy Edward body glitter saddens me.

 

[Ⓐaron]

I work at a book store, of course I see how many stupid people like Twilight What's really depressing is that teenage girls aren't even the main demographic purchasing the books anymore

Edit: AARON YOU BASTARD TAKE THAT BACK. ;_; I hate Twilight.

I'm referring to the fundie cleriths, not people who just like the pairing in fanon