I love how whenever I say something the majority disagrees with it's trolling.
Honestly you'd have to ask Zee and Winter I was just going off on what they said
Good.
If you honestly think 89 letters isn't an obsession, then good I'm glad. I've heard people say she was obsessed and I figured that was one of the reasons. To me it seems like a bit much... I mean she can be devastated and what not, that's fine, I just think that after the umteenth time he didn't write her back, she'd have stopped.
No loving someone doesn't make you obsessed, but certain actions you take when you DO love someone can come off that way.
Also can we please stop accusing me of saying things I never said. I never said she didn't have a right to miss Zack or that loving Zack was what made her obsessive.
Hey Ryu said these kind of comments have long since worn out their welcome. Cease them or face his wrath.
I'm confused as to how Zack is the "love of her life". She was sixteen.
She wasn't "not over the guy", she was just still mildly hurt and curious about the matter. At 16 I was so in love I couldn't see straight.
I'm only 18 now and I've long since moved on, even if the person in question has completely fallen out of my life. At twenty fucking two years old Aerith was not pining over her ex-boyfriend. You've misread her actions as a character, because none of this lines up AT ALL with the self sufficient and somewhat lonely life she's had.
Nobody here is arguing that Cloud was her "soul mate" (unless you're somehow reading that from Quex's posts?), idg where that is coming from.
What makes CC so heinously out of character and retcontastic isn't so much specific quotes or actions (which there are within it, I could supply examples if I weren't so fucklazy), it's how stupidly it altered the original story. That twisting of the story had a hand in the kind of character Aerith became and I think CC fucked it all up. Doesn't line up with other representations of her.
I mean no, it's not completely inaccurate, and neither Maiden. But it's really far from being SPOT ON. Given that it's probably the best (and hell, probably the only GOOD) game in the compilation it gets a lot of attention and people tend to just overlook the glaring, retarded plotholes in it.
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to be fair, being head over heels crazy in love is kinda brainless.
I love how once again I'm being accused of saying something I never said. Granted I should have just let Winter and Zee stand up for themselves there.
Also gotta love this
Most Cleriths (and me basically)
CC - Aerith = Obsessive and OOC
FFVII - Aerith = in character and in love
Everyone else says:
CC - Aerith = in character and in love
FFVII - Aerith = Obsessive and OOC
am I the only one noticing double standards?
Winter, stop trolling already, geeze
I recall her wearing a ribbon in her CC concept.
Honestly I understand that she really liked him and made a lot of promises to him but... those things really are null and void after a while.
It's entirely possible that Aerith just outgrew this and outgrew her love for him. It happens. It's just not within logic to decide she was that stuck on him for that long, especially since men seemed to be so drawn to her.
I can think of a million promises I made to exes that don't mean anything to me now. Just because Aerith didn't explicitly say I LIKE PINK AND RIBBONS I AM NOT WAITING FOR ZACK doesn't mean it isn't true.
jesus it's been YEARRSSS.
Also I know, I love KH Aerith with every fiber of my being, she's so cute in the manga too. She really was exactly as I imagined her to be in OGC. IT'S GOOD STUFF.
I'm confused as to how Zack is the "love of her life". She was sixteen.
She wasn't "not over the guy", she was just still mildly hurt and curious about the matter. At 16 I was so in love I couldn't see straight.
I'm only 18 now and I've long since moved on, even if the person in question has completely fallen out of my life. At twenty fucking two years old Aerith was not pining over her ex-boyfriend. You've misread her actions as a character, because none of this lines up AT ALL with the self sufficient and somewhat lonely life she's had.
Me said:The problem is that you can't justify these character's motivations based on reality. Yeah, if Aeris were real I'd probably think it's natural for her to go for similar types of guys. But it doesn't work like that in the context of the story, where there are unexplained mysteries, unresolved tensions and hanging plot threads. THE WRITERS INCLUDED THE ZACK/AERIS RELATIONSHIP FOR A REASON. If they truly wanted to portray Aeris being fully in love with Cloud, they would not have even bothered to include her connection with Zack in the first place. It would literally be a pointless addition. I'm sure all of you know that when analyzing a story we must assume everything has a reason to it. Honestly, I would REALLY like to what that reason is from the opposing stance. Seriously. Because Zack/Aeris was definitlely not vital to any aspect of the story in that sense. If they truly wanted to show Aeris clearly loving Cloud for who he was, they would not ave included Zack as a mitigating factor. If Aeris was truly "over" him/never really took the relationship seriously, then there is NO justification for including it in the story in the first place!
The fact of the matter is, Zack was a ggiantic catalyst to Aeris' character. Maiden sort of shat over this fact with Aeris' callous attitude towards him. Not to say that this was really a huge deal breaker for the story, but it IS contradictory to OG Aeris. I would agree that CC did not really keep in line with OG Aeris, but I will say that her relationship with Zack is consistent with the writing of the OG.
Well maybe not OOC, but FHS has said that she's obsessed, we were discussing that in... actually I think it was this thread.WHOA HOLY FUCK! Stop RIGHT there. WHO THE FUCK is saying FF7 Aerith is OOC and OBSESSIVE?
yes that's why I posted the "Most Cleriths (and me basically)"...She said, while perpetuating some.
Then let me try to clarify. I'm saying that I understand that Aerith and Zack were in love. I don't think their relationship was bad for them, or OOC, or stupid or anything. Zack truly Loved Aerith and Aerith truly loved Zack. I will never argue with this.Quex, you're barely saying anything. It's no wonder your point is being absolutely misunderstood.
Believe me, I understand this completely. I brought it on myself, I get that, but I did feel the need to at least say that I wasn't trolling in this case. And Duley-noted (is that how you spell that) on the being watched.YOU HAVE AN ADMITTED HISTORY OF TROLLING.
YOU DO NOT GET TO PLAY THE 'CALL IT TROLLING, LOL' DEFENSE.
fap fap fapI want to give you such a fucking spanking right now. With a belt.
So you were trolling in this thread? Is that what you're saying?
I want to give you such a fucking spanking right now. With a belt. You're like the kid that draws on the walls with crayons just for attention, and the satisfaction of being yelled at angrily by everyone in the house.
Jesus, what the hell is wrong with you? Do you need a time out? A nap? Your favorite toy?
I swear I was only trolling in the Geostigma topic and I only did it for a few posts.
Well maybe not OOC, but FHS has said that she's obsessed, we were discussing that in... actually I think it was this thread.
yes that's why I posted the "Most Cleriths (and me basically)"
Although I guess it wasn't fair to say "everyone else" but I've heard it before from some people so, but okay not "everyone else" but "others say"
Then let me try to clarify. I'm saying that I understand that Aerith and Zack were in love. I don't think their relationship was bad for them, or OOC, or stupid or anything. Zack truly Loved Aerith and Aerith truly loved Zack. I will never argue with this.
But I think she loves Cloud too. I mean CoLW is what really seals this for me. It was all about Cloud, not a mention of Zack.
The part we disagree on is which one she loves more... and honestly I think CC did go overboard with the letters. Yeah it's only one every two weeks or so but... it just seems like a lot for over 4 years.
Believe me, I understand this completely. I brought it on myself, I get that, but I did feel the need to at least say that I wasn't trolling in this case. And Duley-noted (is that how you spell that) on the being watched.
HOWEVER, as amusing as a simple troll can be from time to time, I didn't realize I was causing so much trouble. I apologize. I swear I was only trolling in the Geostigma topic and I only did it for a few posts. I can see that I've caused a stir so from one admin to another, I will be on my best behavior You have my word on that.
No I said I was NOT trolling in here, I was debating with FHS and then Winter and Zee came in.
Really? I guess I didn't notice it was just her. Hasn't Vendel said this as well?FHS has constantly expressed derision at Aerith being 'Obsessed,' Quex.
Well.. FHS XDWAS IT ANYONE IN THIS THREAD?
If no, it is then irrelevant.
I understand the point here, but calling him her beloved should at LEAST prove she does love him and loves both him and Zack.Aerith was all about Cloud because Sephiroth was all about Cloud. Literally. She fixates on Cloud again because Sephytacular was doing it too.
I bet she wanted to tap Zack's ass because Sephy was aiming for it too.
That's the one thing that always sticks out in my mind, yes.Really? You just don't like the number of letters she sent?
Well then I WAS trolling in this topicWell, then I still want to spank you. Except with just a wooden paddle now.