Mobius Final Fantasy (formerly "Mevius Final Fantasy")

[Strangelove]

I've done this too but the max atm is 800 for each of the storage boxes and I'm very close to filling them both

i guess this is another difference because the card box (the ones you can use in battle) has an upgradable max of 800, but the storage box (where you can't equip them) is 1600 max.

why are you making these choices, squr.

I think they have to be either pulled at or augmented to rank 4 before you can find them in the ability shop though.

what!

who is deciding these things!

I don't know why but I can probably hazard a guess that it brings in more money for them one way or another. I think I would have preferred the Japanese version of doing it or at least have them keep the bloody job summon banner. It used to give a job card you didn't already own at the steep price of 6 summon tickets/3000 magicite for one job card (no ability cards) but the Legendary Jobs were not included. Hm, now that I think about it that's no good either.

i can see the appeal of having a draw with only new job cards, because it gets kind of dull to get multiple draws where you get nothing new at all. but at the same time... 6 tickets for one card. stop this foolishness. perhaps some of the difference is due to legal stuff, since japan has laws regarding these gacha systems that i guess other countries don't.

although i will say, i have found one part where the english version is better than the japanese one. the mobius gift box. the cost is the same, but in the japanese version you don't get a spirit ticket, extranger or mog amulet. you get 2 elixirs (not 5), 2 phoenix downs (not 5), 3 crystals (not 5), and the regular delivery only includes 1 metal cactuar (not 2).

and also if they have mobius days on every day with an 8. the japanese one will only do one (which will sometimes last a period of several days, but it is only on or around the 8th of each month).


more general stuff

light/dark were elements added later in the japanese game so some of the earlier jobs couldn't use them at all. (they updated the starter jobs to be able to use them though.)

i would recommend trying to clear the story regions as soon as possible, at least up to chapter 5, since that will increase the level cap for ability cards. the chapters after 5 didn't increase the cap iirc (but they recently did increase it further to coincide with the new major update in the japanese version). this way your max level can increase too, which makes life easier with the more difficult stuff.

also do the battle tower events as soon as you can and don't be a dumbass like me and put them off until you miss them because you can get some nice items from them

also set a good rental card because it's nice when people have useful cards for other players to use and not like... some basic wind-element ability. ilu people who put the aerith supreme card as their rental

get a new spirit each month. during certain periods you can get an unlock extra skills bonus by selecting specific spirits (such as spring-themed ones during spring).

for levelling up: if the english version still has the daily missions, then at some point you can collect a lot of the mystic tablets which let you go to the cactuar area. save up a lot of gil and get one of the egg cards which give you an exp bonus (the rank 4 card does 20% and the rank 5 does 40%). pick one job you don't mind using mainly for levelling and fill the custom skill panels with exp up cards (save up draw coins to do the red 3 star/rank draws but failing that, sometimes you can get 3 star cards from the blue 2 star draw) to increase the exp bonus. some weapons have an exp bonus auto-ability, so if you get one of those then keep upgrading that because you will have a random chance of upgrading the exp bonus too.

Spoiler: slight character spoilers for my favourite grinding job card?

the best one for exp grinding is i think meia's santa lucia job. it has a base exp bonus of i think 20% and its weapon, stella di prima, can get a max exp bonus of up to 30% through upgrading. my current set up for it has a total exp bonus of 123%.

it was a christmas themed job though, and i'm not sure if it's in the general rotation.

 

[Teioh]

i guess this is another difference because the card box (the ones you can use in battle) has an upgradable max of 800, but the storage box (where you can't equip them) is 1600 max.

I'm pretty sure the storage box is limited to 800 too but I'll check again. Since I've been put on the Korean server all the news is in Korean so I don't know when something has changed until I stumble across it

Edit: And it has been increased to 1600 lol I'll buy the expansions asap.

I'm not 100% certain about the ability shop. I don't want to sell cards I can't buy back. There's conflicting info about how it works, some say that as long as you have owned the card at one point then you can find them there regardless of rank or whether you have sold them. Others say it has to be augmented/drawn at 4+. Looking into it a bit more I think the latter may be confused as having a card at rank 4 only unlocks the ability to buy the card at both a lower rank and its max rank. I hope that's the case anyway. The problem is I don't know what cards were originally in the ability shop to begin with so I can't go and experiment by selling one to see if it remains available.

So overall, not Square's fault for these at least. Just my fault for misunderstanding and not checking before I posted

although i will say, i have found one part where the english version is better than the japanese one. the mobius gift box. the cost is the same, but in the japanese version you don't get a spirit ticket, extranger or mog amulet. you get 2 elixirs (not 5), 2 phoenix downs (not 5), 3 crystals (not 5), and the regular delivery only includes 1 metal cactuar (not 2).

You said that there's a chance for spirit tickets to drop when you summon cards right? I don't think I've ever gotten a spirit ticket from a summon draw, only from chests and the gift box (I think you can buy them from the item shop too). I always use the one I get from the gift box to buy that month's Echo. Don't know if you can or cannot get one from summon draws, just that I have never gotten one.

and also if they have mobius days on every day with an 8.

Or every day with a 7 for those Europeans playing on the Korean server

ilu people who put the aerith supreme card as their rental

This is me ❤️ ah I wish I could share my rental card with people not on my server. But yes, start following people with really nice rental cards and hope that they don't change it to something else. Renting one of Cloud's cards with the stun ability is what got me through most of the FFVII event when I first played the game. Then they all changed to something else

Actually got a question for you, Strangelove. I've noticed that some people have started to get a badge with a number next to their name, do you know what they mean? Until now it's only been the trophy and medal badges for where they've ranked that week but this is the first time seeing the little number plaques. They've probably been around for ages, I'm just really unobservant

Also I'm super envious about that spoiler. Edit: to say that looking at the current summon draw atm gives a 0.18162% chance of pulling that job so yeah. Super envious.

 

[Strangelove]

You said that there's a chance for spirit tickets to drop when you summon cards right?

for the japanese draws (at least the limited time ones, i don't even bother with the regular ones at this point), i think it's a 25% chance of getting one based on the ones i checked (by which i mean 2, because i can't open the browser on my phone now without it closing mobius so i only checked 2). so if you've done a fair number of draws you should have gotten one if they're available?

your choices, square. your awful choices.

I've noticed that some people have started to get a badge with a number next to their name, do you know what they mean?

this number? (in the red box)

it's how many times you've completed the 'endless war' region (where you can only use each job for a single battle and then you have to pick another one).

(which i was levelling cards up in order to complete and then in the process of levelling up completely forgot why i was doing it. i just remember it now.)

to say that looking at the current summon draw atm gives a 0.18162% chance of pulling that job so yeah.

looking at the odds for the one of the current special/limited time draws (dragon quest event rerun), it's got a 1.18181% chance. in the basic draw that's always there, it's 2.27272%.

idk why they would make the odds of getting it harsher than that. on top of not getting a guaranteed job card for each 6 ticket draw.


also, another random tip. don't bother buying items like elixirs or phoenix downs from the item shop. you'll get enough from treasure chests and login bonuses and the like. i have like, 400 phoenix downs and more than 700 elixirs.

 

[Teioh]

this number? (in the red box)

Yup, that's the one. There are people with numbers over 300, so it must have been going on for a while now and I just haven't being paying attention unless there are really good rewards for doing so, I'm gonna leave it alone for now.

 

[Strangelove]

it's endgame content (and you obviously need a certain amount of good jobs to get through it, there are 12 areas and they have bonuses for specific job types), like the battles at the end of the tower events there's no rental cards or continues. but there's some good treasure (including magicite and summon tickets) and the chests return when you complete the region (i think from the second time onward the rewards are different but still include some magicite/tickets).

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Noob as hell question: How the hell does upgrading cards work?

I keep getting items like Cactuar and whatnot, but only the auto-enhance menu seems to use them? I want to select specific cards to make awesome, rather than let RNGeezus dictate my deck… but I haven't the faintest damn clue on how to do so.

Also, finished through Chapter 3 now.





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[Strangelove]

you can use cactuar cards manually in the fusion menu

for increasing the rank of the cards (raising the card level, ability level, number of skill seeds) you need specific material cards. rank 3 to 4 requires 2 growstars. no enemies drop these, you get them by completing the login bonuses or through special login bonuses run on certain occasions, from the mobius gift box, maybe from chests sometimes, or buy with magicite from the item shop. or you can hope you draw a rank 4 card from the card summon and don't have to bother.

rank 4 to 5 need a number of material cards dropped by boss-type enemies. there are bonus regions where these are dropped more often. you also need the cactuar bulb cards (dropped by the jumbo cactuar enemies sometimes), and godray cards. the godray cards are the worst to get. no regular enemies drop them, so you have to get them from chests or a specific bonus region which changes each day so you can only farm specific types on certain days and even on the most difficult battles, which take 60 stamina, you aren't guaranteed to get one. there's just as good a chance if not more that you'll get a fractal card which are useful and all but not what i want. or you can hope you draw a rank 5 card from the card summon and don't have to bother.

('godray' is 'pneuma' in english and the bonus region is call the pleiades lagoon, i should look this up first)

there used to be further requirements before you could augment them (iirc you had to have completed the skill seed unlocks and be over a certain level) but they changed it now so you can just upgrade at any time if you have the items.

and gil. it takes like 1.2 million gil each time. this is a lot early on but i found it to be less trouble later on.

('augment' is 'class change' in the japanese version and that's a ff reference, why did you change that. is that what they call class change in other english games now)

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Thanks much! After much hunting in the Fusion screen, I found that there's an option to switch to the Bank where all of said cards I couldn't find before are visible.

Assuming that my deck is made of all 4* Maxed cards, it looks like Extension Material is what I should be focusing on next to get them some special ability and maybe rank them to 5*? I think that I'll have to wander on to the next whatnot in the story for a bit before that though.

I don't understand a damn thing about Skillseeds and whatnot at the moment, just that it seems like I have a ton of things, because the game wants me to be able to do more since I'm here late. xD

Also, are the 6x Summoning Tickets the best way to use them, or're there better times / places to use them?

(Unrelated, did you get the PM I sentcha)





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[Strangelove]

Assuming that my deck is made of all 4* Maxed cards, it looks like Extension Material is what I should be focusing on next to get them some special ability and maybe rank them to 5*? I think that I'll have to wander on to the next whatnot in the story for a bit before that though.

i would just advance in the story and pick them up as you go. you can try with the enemies in the main story regions but it's not a certain drop, plus you usually have to do more battles to respawn enemies. by going through the story you'll unlock new regions, including ones where material drops are guaranteed, plus you'll probably get some just from the battles you play through. also you will get pneumas as well.

I don't understand a damn thing about Skillseeds and whatnot at the moment, just that it seems like I have a ton of things, because the game wants me to be able to do more since I'm here late. xD

you need those for adding custom skill panels to jobs and for upgrading/enhancing weapons, although any you have over the limit (9,999,999?) just go to waste so i'd use them as soon as you can if you're reaching the limit.

Also, are the 6x Summoning Tickets the best way to use them, or're there better times / places to use them?

i would save them for 6x draws, and for the limited time ones (assuming that they will still give you a job card idek what's going on there)

(Unrelated, did you get the PM I sentcha)

i did, i just spent too long trying to make up an image

 

[Teioh]

Also, are the 6x Summoning Tickets the best way to use them, or're there better times / places to use them?

There are times when a banner comes along that gives an (ever so slightly) increased chance at getting a legendary job. They're pretty rare though and usually occur around holidays/special events. You could save up for them but I'd look at what jobs/cards are available on current summons and see if there is something you may want to add to your deck. The info button takes you to a website with all the odds plus extra info on what news cards are available. And save up at least enough to do 8 draws just to get that guaranteed job card.

But if the current Boosted Greater Summon banner is the same one available to me atm, and it's the job cards you're after, I'd say wait for something better to come along. The banner at the moment is focused on a

Spoiler: Chapter VI Spoiler

job for a different character so if it's Wol jobs you want then

the odds are lower at getting a job card. The banner should update some time this week and I think it may be FFXIV related? You'll have to tell me looks like there's going to be a new FFXIV job as well as a new Ultimate Hero available and ah, actually kinda curious at what the news says right at the bottom since there seems to be something about a list of FFVII cards?

Personally I may do a draw on each of the FFXIV summon batches and then leave it. Unless there's something I really want I usually pass and wait for another big event to come along.

 

[Shademp]

Moderately curious what this tweet from the official JP Mobius twitter says. Google translate doesn't clarify enough.

浜口Lです。生放送でお伝えしましたが、今後はメビウスFFの意思決定は白神君が貢献していきます。私自身は今後もメビウスFFの為に開発に参加していきますが、FFⅦ REMAKE主軸に開発をしていきますので、新情報を発表していく際には皆様に姿を見せていければと思います。今後もよろしくお願いします。

It is Hamaguchi L. We reported on live broadcasting, but in the future Mr. Shirakami will contribute Mobius FF's decision. I will continue to participate in the development for Mobius FF in the future, but I will develop it to FF Ⅶ REMAKE main spindle, so I have to show you everyone when new information is released think. I hope to work with you in the future.

Who is doing what with the FFVII Remake here?

 

[Strangelove]

shirakami/shiragami (i'm not sure who this is and which reading they use for their name) will be contributing to the decision making for mobius from here on. hamaguchi will still take part in mobius' development but seems to be moving to focus primarily on the remake's development.

 

[Teioh]

白神 剛志（バトルプランナー）
Takeshi Shirakami (Battle planner) or so google tells me. Their name is in the info for the youtube live broadcast which occurred two days before that tweet.

Video of that live broadcast btw:

 

[Strangelove]

http://maximum.minimum.me/m/index.php?人物/TAKASHI SHIRAGA

this site gives his name is takashi shiraga (shiraga, the one reading i didn't think i needed to put!). according to this he was a visual works engineer on the 3rd birthday and the original ffxiv, a character technical director on ff type-0 and ffxiii-2, and a production engineer for lightning returns ffxiii. among others i cba to look further into.

 

[Strangelove]

here's a tip if you're playing this

if the english version has the 'hard mode' regions (basically letting you replay the story for each chapter from the beginning again on a higher difficulty) and the bonus exploration regions and you're bothered about completing them, then do them as soon as you can. because with the update for part 2, the japanese version got rid of those regions (replaced with a new bonus region for material cards and story digest regions).

don't make the same mistake i did (not touching the hard mode ones at all and missing some potentially good items there)

 

[X-SOLDIER]

How Important is job swapping in the long run? Because I went through all of the elemental trials, and now I'm just going through the Light & Dark section of the story, and I have yet to encounter a situation where I've felt it necessary to use — likely because it's easier to start out being OP now. I just want to make sure I'm not shooting myself in the foot by ignoring it so far.





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[Strangelove]

unless it's required by the story or there's a bonus specifically for it, you'll get by alright with the same job most of the time. tbh i only really change if i'm levelling up cards, or get a new fancy job and want to try it out

 

[Teioh]

That's good to hear as I too wanted to know if it was necessary. I have only ever been forced to switch jobs as a prerequisite to unlock areas. Other than that I have stuck to the one job and I'm pretty happy to keep it that way.

Currently working my way through the hard mode chapters as you suggested I had already completed up to Chapter 2 but then a limited time event came along and I wandered off to do that instead. I don't know when Part 2 will be released for us, Final Chapter Part 1 Closing the Loop has literally just been released so my guess is that it's not too far off?

 

[Strangelove]

I think there were a couple of months between the final chapter and part 2’s release, but I guess it’s possible that they might accelerate the time table for the English version since the main work on part 2 is done

 

[Teioh]

Looking at the list of events for May, I don't see anything about Part 2 of Mobius happening (Part 2 of Final Chapter opens on the 22nd though). There is a celebration for the Final Chapter going on atm with one free Greater Summon and a daily free summon for the next 25 days.

There's also a Super Supreme Summon coming out on May 25th with the increased chance of Supreme cards and Ultimate Heroes too. So you may want to save up for that, X-SOLDIER. I don't know if Aerith's card will be included as she's not on the banner, but she usually is included. We'll have to wait until closer for more info about which cards are available.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Saving all of my Summon tickets for that event now.

I upgraded one of my cards to 5* to see what it's like, and that's been pretty neat feeling like I'm getting a better handle on that sort of stuff with Card management.

Also, I finally experienced my first death. Mis-tapped and did a normal attack, rather than using my Ultimate, and one of the big bombs exploded and did >10,000 damaged and took me from full to 0 in one hit. Other than that, Combat's nice and steady, but it's getting to the point where I do frequently use Hades' Regen on harder battles.

Also got my first Mobius box, which seems SUPER worth it.

In case it interests any of you, for mobile games, I love Google Reward Surveys. You randomly get questions, and get like $0.10-0.30 in Google Play credit for answering them. I just build it up until it's an appropriate increment and drop it to purchase mobile game currency for free.




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[Strangelove]

the key to fighting bombs is a) don't attack with their weak element because that's what causes them to self destruct on the next turn, or b) be really really strong so you can just defeat them before that happens (or c) phoenix downs)

also, tips that i always forget to use: you can just put cards in the auto-augment to level them up while you're not even using them and you can just level up some cards while doing something else. which i keep forgetting to do.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

I have Phoenix Downs for days, luckily. Only had two deaths so far (Had to deal with two large bombs that stole my elements and only killed one in time). I'm going through Chapter 5 now. I've been using Auto-Enhance for the card I share, but I'm contemplating trying to get Gi Nattak soon to change up how my deck works (very much hoping that I can get Spellsword Strike from the event on the 25th).

Speaking of which, can I follow either of you guys with one of those fancy codes?
Mine is: 2011-ef8d-7901





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[Teioh]

I too would like to get my hands on Xezat. My deck is really lacking a good warrior water ability card and I'm starting to feel the strain. May also need to start using a job with the ability to use light abilities just to kill those bloody Demon Walls. I really do hate sorting out new decks and switching jobs though.

Tried adding you but it says you don't exist so it looks like you can't add people from other servers

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Any advice on getting the Ability Cards? Looking to Max out some things on some skills things on my 5★ cards, and that seems to be the most cost-effective way of doing that, but getting them in the regular chapters is slow going.




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