New Pokemon Games:Pokemon X and Y is scheduled for the 3DS

[Cthulhu]

:pokemon:

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Shouldn't that monster actually be :pokemon : ?

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

founded on fb. if it's true, i know what GLD will chose

If that's truth, that thing is the least dark looking Dark-type I've ever seen. And no, I'll still take Fire first. That tradition long predates my ascension to Gym Leader I'll just have to trade for the silly looking thing if it does turn out to be a Dark-type by its final evo.

 

[jazzflower92]

I still can't wait to see the new villain team.Anyone here have any guesses what they could possibly be like.It seems like each generation the villains seem to keep getting more and more evil.

 

[Ghost X]

Excuse my ignorance, but wasn't there a "villainous" team that was basically trying to free the pokemon? It'd be like calling people rescuing fighting chickens and dogs villainous. I think they were pretty noble, if that is true, but I haven't played the game, so I'm guessing there is some evil twist. I do like moral ambiguity though, so if they continue on that path with the next villains, rather than the boring old "good versus evil", I'd be happy.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Some of them were genuinely trying to separate people from Pokemon, believing it to be for their own good since then people wouldn't be using them for battles. These well intentioned members however ignored that most of the Pokemon they were "freeing" didn't want to leave their trainers, and apparently had never looked at a single Pokedex entry since they seemingly didn't realize that in the wild Pokemon STILL fight, the difference being that in the wild they are killed and eaten instead of knocked senseless and taken to the Pokemon Center for healing.

And the majority of them were evil bastards just like usual. We got outright physical abuse of a Pokemon on screen from some of these guys. Boss man Ghestsis' real plan was to make everyone give up their Pokemon so he could effortlessly conquer the region. with all the mons he kept for himself.

 

[jazzflower92]

Some of them were genuinely trying to separate people from Pokemon, believing it to be for their own good since then people wouldn't be using them for battles. These well intentioned members however ignored that most of the Pokemon they were "freeing" didn't want to leave their trainers, and apparently had never looked at a single Pokedex entry since they seemingly didn't realize that in the wild Pokemon STILL fight, the difference being that in the wild they are killed and eaten instead of knocked senseless and taken to the Pokemon Center for healing.

And the majority of them were evil bastards just like usual. We got outright physical abuse of a Pokemon on screen from some of these guys. Boss man Ghestsis' real plan was to make everyone give up their Pokemon so he could effortlessly conquer the region. with all the mons he kept for himself.

And Ghestsis could have gotten away with it too if it weren't for some meddling trainer snoobing around influencing his adoptive son that humans and pokemon can live together.But yeah in the pokemon fandom there is a big reason why Ghestsis is hated on the same scale as Hojo.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

And Ghestsis could have gotten away with it too if it weren't for some meddling trainer snoobing around influencing his adoptive son that humans and pokemon can live together.

Well, that and beating the stuffing out of his team. Especially his Hydreigon, in the sequel his monster dragon is several levels lower and has a much less effective move list. I like to think that, at least in MY game, its because MY Hydreigon Dragon Pulsed his so hard it never got back up and he had to get a new one.

And yes, I know that sounds like exactly the sort of thing that'd get Poke-PETA the genuinely altruistic Team Plasma grunts on your ass, but its firmly established that Pokemon raised by a genuinely bad, abusive trainer go bad themselves so meh. I do so wish they'd let me tell Ghidorah to Crunch the guy giving the orders once his team is down and out though.

But yeah in the pokemon fandom there is a big reason why Ghestsis is hated on the same scale as Hojo.

He's all but tied with Cipher for most evil and despicable human monster in the franchise. Cipher. All of them. The people who were abducting people's Pokemon and subjecting them to mind rape to turn them into sociopathic monsters with new powers they couldn't control and thus hurt themselves every time they used a Shadow attack. Yeah, beating Ghetsis down feels good.

 

[jazzflower92]

Well, that and beating the stuffing out of his team. Especially his Hydreigon, in the sequel his monster dragon is several levels lower and has a much less effective move list. I like to think that, at least in MY game, its because MY Hydreigon Dragon Pulsed his so hard it never got back up and he had to get a new one.

And yes, I know that sounds like exactly the sort of thing that'd get Poke-PETA the genuinely altruistic Team Plasma grunts on your ass, but its firmly established that Pokemon raised by a genuinely bad, abusive trainer go bad themselves so meh. I do so wish they'd let me tell Ghidorah to Crunch the guy giving the orders once his team is down and out though.



He's all but tied with Cipher for most evil and despicable human monster in the franchise. Cipher. All of them. The people who were abducting people's Pokemon and subjecting them to mind rape to turn them into sociopathic monsters with new powers they couldn't control and thus hurt themselves every time they used a Shadow attack. Yeah, beating Ghetsis down feels good.

Good thing he became nonfunctioning in the sequel because that man really deserved to loose his mind after what he tried to pull especially the fact he was willing to freeze/or murder a child in cold blood.I also note the fact that Ghetsis's Hydreigon knows Frustration at full power.The move frustration gets stronger the more the pokemon dislikes his trainer.If you think about that that means that Ghetsis could be very abusive towards his pokemon which makes him an even bigger phony and an extremely vile person.

I also heard a theory around the pokemon fandom that Ghetsis might have planned to kill N when he was no longer useful.Its never implied in the game but I have a feeling and wouldn't be surprised if Ghetsis was actually thinking of killing his adoptive son.

With all the stuff that Ghetsis has done it makes one wonder how evil the next main villain will be.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Good thing he became nonfunctioning in the sequel because that man really deserved to loose his mind after what he tried to pull especially the fact he was willing to freeze/or murder a child in cold blood.I also note the fact that Ghetsis's Hydreigon knows Frustration at full power.The move frustration gets stronger the more the pokemon dislikes his trainer.If you think about that that means that Ghetsis could be very abusive towards his pokemon which makes him an even bigger phony and an extremely vile person.

To be fair, you can't read too much into Frustration. NPC trainers default to 0 friendship scores with their Pokemon, so anyone using Frustration other than the players will get pretty good bang for it.

I also heard a theory around the pokemon fandom that Ghetsis might have planned to kill N when he was no longer useful.Its never implied in the game but I have a feeling and wouldn't be surprised if Ghetsis was actually thinking of killing his adoptive son.

Well, its sort of implied if only because of the disposition of his team. The Hydreigon alone is perfectly primed to sweep N's entire team, up to and including his Legendary Dragon, not to mention the other bruisers he has on staff. He definitely seemed to have a backup plan of "kick N's ass" at the very least.

With all the stuff that Ghetsis has done it makes one wonder how evil the next main villain will be.

Honestly I hope they tone it down just a little. Give me someone who's more amoral and greedy like Giovanni or well intentioned in an incredibly bat-shit, world ending way like Cyrus.

 

[jazzflower92]

Do you think this time the leader of the villain team might be a woman?We already had two female champions and a female professor so the next logical step is a female villain leader.

I also wonder what will be the theme this generation as well.Someone had the suggestion that life and death will be a theme.

 

[PhantomSephiroth]

X and Y. Really now? No thanks. Pokemon has never been worth my money anyway. I lost interest after Gen 2.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

A female Team Boss would be pretty cool in my book. Not even gonna guess at an overall theme until we have more info, at the very least the types of the version mascots would be useful to know. Albeit the red one looks like a flying dragon, but I just can't imagine a version exclusive legendary that's 4X weak to Ice. But then Ho-oh had a 4X vulnerability to Rock, so why not? I will say Life and Death seems like a pretty hefty theme for a kid's game. It'd probably fly in Japan, but the localization team would flip their shit.

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X and Y. Really now? No thanks. Pokemon has never been worth my money anyway. I lost interest after Gen 2.

Your opinion is duly noted. I will make sure not to expect any battles or trades out of you At least you're not shouting "There! Are! 151! Pokemon!" at us

 

[jazzflower92]

A female Team Boss would be pretty cool in my book. Not even gonna guess at an overall theme until we have more info, at the very least the types of the version mascots would be useful to know. Albeit the red one looks like a flying dragon, but I just can't imagine a version exclusive legendary that's 4X weak to Ice. But then Ho-oh had a 4X vulnerability to Rock, so why not? I will say Life and Death seems like a pretty hefty theme for a kid's game. It'd probably fly in Japan, but the localization team would flip their shit.

I don't know American localization its getting to be a little bit more lenient when it comes to the issue of death.Heck,a lot of animated kids shows these days actually tackle the concept of death.If you watch Transformers Prime it actually shows a lot of death in that show.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

True, hell Adventure Time can get away with "Jake, I'm pregnant!" these days. Getting crap past the radar is an art form that many have become very good at these days. But yeah, you should see the opinion of the old localization guys on the subject of Cyrus' pseudo-religious "I shall become god!" rants from Platnium. That shit got toned down a LOT for the English release.

 

[jazzflower92]

True, hell Adventure Time can get away with "Jake, I'm pregnant!" these days. Getting crap past the radar is an art form that many have become very good at these days. But yeah, you should see the opinion of the old localization guys on the subject of Cyrus' pseudo-religious "I shall become god!" rants from Platnium. That shit got toned down a LOT for the English release.

Yeah,I know what you mean it seems like these days that a lot of kid aimed stuff is actually putting in some deep stuff.I think its to attract the adult fans as well because the writers have become aware that not only kids watch their shows as well.Or in the case of pokemon the developers noticed that even twenty somethings are still playing even though they are not the target age group.

 

[Mantichorus]

http://venturebeat.com/2013/01/09/new-pokemon-x-y-details/ Names of the new legendaries. I might break my tradition of getting the "cooler" coloured game, and pick up Y, as I prefer the look of Yveltal. But, it'll all depend on available Pokemon (as will which one I'll start with).

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Yvetal? That sounds vaugely Meso-American Indian. We should perhaps approach that one with caution. Especially since it resembles the dragon Angelus from Drakengard.

Also does anyone else think Xerneas looks a bit too much like Keldeo in a way? I do like the Princess Mononoke comparison now that its been pointed out though.

 

[Ryushikaze]

So, Pokemon games have taken place in Kanto, Japan. Johto (AKA the Kyoto region), Japan. Fukuoka, Japan. Hokkaido, Japan. Orre, the analogue to Nevada, US. The Analogue to California US in the other gamecube game, Unova, the Analogue to New York/ New England, US.

And now PARIS FRANCE, or its Pokemon equivalent.

 

[jazzflower92]

So, Pokemon games have taken place in Kanto, Japan. Johto (AKA the Kyoto region), Japan. Fukuoka, Japan. Hokkaido, Japan. Orre, the analogue to Nevada, US. The Analogue to California US in the other gamecube game, Unova, the Analogue to New York/ New England, US.

And now PARIS FRANCE, or its Pokemon equivalent.

Japan does have a fascination with France and the country is a big vaction spot for Japanese people.

 

[Ghost X]

Lol, Paris Syndrome.

 

[ForceStealer]

...wut

 

[looneymoon]

Woody Allen suddenly makes so much more sense now

 

[Ghost X]

I'll just leave this here.

 

[Mantichorus]

Lol, Paris Syndrome.

D'you know, I was thinking that myself?

Also does anyone else think Xerneas looks a bit too much like Keldeo in a way? I do like the Princess Mononoke comparison now that its been pointed out though.

There's currently a theory going around on TV Tropes that Xerneas the trio (quartet?) master to the Swords of Justice, similar to how Lugia is considered the trio master to the Kanto Legendary Birds.

 

[Kermitu Kleric Katie]

I hope the new games introduce an evolution for Dunsparce. Hopefully one that outclasses Togekiss, that way the Dunsparce family can finally take back the title of best non-legendary paraflincher. And my Dunsparce could totally kick a Togekiss's ass, all I'd need to do is Thunder Wave it, and the Rock Slide it a few times, shouldn't take moar than two Rock Slides since it's super effective, and Togekiss is fainted.